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Oboro Breezecaller
Creature — Moonfolk Wizard
Flying
(2), Return a land you control to its owner's hand: Untap target land.
legendofa on Why is Untapping Lands a …
8 months ago
In blue, the Urza's Block hugely skew land untapping, and that block is widely considered to be an overpowered mistake, especially for blue. Urza's Saga and Urza's Legacy alone have ten cards that allow land-specific untapping, more than half of all the blue cards that allow untapping lands without untapping all permanents. They'll be included for the sake of completion, but I wouldn't take them as any sort of precedent. Pioneer legality is just five cards, with one of them being Standard-legal. Blue is the undisputed king of untapping permanents in general, but doesn't have any special focus on lands.
Ye Olde Bordere, "untap" + "land": Twiddle, Reset, Infuse, Jolt, Twitch, Mind Over Matter, Great Whale, Peregrine Drake, Rewind, Time Spiral, Turnabout, Cloud of Faeries, Frantic Search, Palinchron, Snap, Treachery, Trickster Mage. total 16
Modern Border, "untap" + "land": Oboro Breezecaller. total 1
2015 Border, "untap" + "land": Pore Over the Pages, Unwind, Finale of Revelation, Kelpie Guide. total 3
Ye Olde Bordere, "untap" + "permanent": Telekinetic Bonds. total 1
Modern Border, "untap" + "permanent": Dream's Grip, Psychic Puppetry, Toils of Night and Day, Tidewater Minion, Rimewind Taskmage, Coral Trickster, Merrow Reejerey, Pestermite, Fatestitcher, Merfolk Skyscout, Reality Spasm, Deceiver Exarch, Captain of the Mists, Ghostly Touch, Hidden Strings, Curse of Inertia, Tidal Force. total 17
2015 Border, "untap" + "permanent": Teferi, Temporal Archmage, Vizier of Tumbling Sands, Clever Conjurer, Nimbleclaw Adept, Ioreth of the Healing House, Forensic Researcher. total 6
Ye Olde Bordere, "untap" + "Island": none.
Modern Border, "untap" + "Island": none.
2015 Border, "untap" + "Island": none.
There's 44 mono-blue cards that can untap lands in some capacity, with 20 of them being more specific than untapping permanents in general. If Urza's Block is taken out, then there are 34 blue cards that untap lands, with just nine of them having any sort of restriction.
So in final summary, I see green land untapping increasing in recent years, and blue permanent untapping actually falling off slightly. There were 18 blue untap cards in the 12 years of the modern border, and nine cards so far in the nine years of the 2015 border. Discounting Urza's Block, there are slightly more green cards that can untap lands than blue cards, and many more green cards that untap lands than blue cards printed in the last ten years.
If I missed anything in this breakdown, please let me know. But I think the cards are there to support my initial position. Both green and blue are primary in untapping lands, if lands are counted as permanents, and blue is secondary in untapping lands specifically. Mark Rosewater's answer is is at best incomplete and missing nuance, and at worst totally wrong.
Keeping the above because it took me a long time write and I don't want to undo the effort.
In response to wallisface, percentage of cards with a given effect doesn't matter to primacy of color.
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Primary – This is the color (or colors) the ability is seen in most. That means it shows up in the highest volume and usually at the lowest rarity that the type of effects get used at. The primary color will almost always get this effect in a set if it's an ability we do every set. It also tends to be the color that most often pushes the power level, if it's an effect we push the power level on. There's a wide range on what primary means, because different types of effects exist at different levels. A card secondary in flying can show up way more than a card primary in taking extra turns, for instance, because we have so many more flying cards than extra-turn cards.
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I want to stress one more time that primary, secondary, and tertiary are relative to how often an effect is used. Things that are secondary in a color, for example, may be far more prevalent in that color than things that are primary if the items in question occur at a higher frequency.
Source: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/mechanical-color-pie-2021
For example, MaRoo has repeatedly stated that red is primary in extra combat cards, with white as a contender for secondary.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/mechanical-color-pie-2021
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/760377485190938624/can-any-color-aside-from-red-get-extra-combat
There are only 36 cards that grant an additional comabt. If primacy was considered as a proportion of cards that grant additional combats was considered only as a proportion of total cards of that color, I don't think any color would be considered primary.
So while there might be fewer cards that untap lands in green as a proportion of total green cards in recent years, that's not a relevant measure to color primacy. The relevant measure is how often cards that untap lands show up in green compared to other colors, which I think is demonstrated by the above lists that green has more land untap effects than any other color, with blue being nearly equivalent. That, according to MaRo's definition, means that land untapping is primary in green.
legendofa on Why is Untapping Lands a …
8 months ago
wallisface Which extremely old cards are you looking at? For mono-green cards with the line "Untap target land", seven out of twelve have the 2015 frame for their first printing. For "Untap all lands", there's five, with all having at least the Modern frame and two having the 2015 frame for their first print.
For "untap all permanents", the only mono-color card is Seedborn Muse. The only mono-blue card with "untap all lands" is Reset
, by far the oldest card.
There are eighteen mono-blue cards with "untap target permanent", and only two of them have the 2015 frame. The only mono-blue card with "untap target land" is Oboro Breezecaller.
I'll grant that the number of mono-green cards with "untap target land" is smaller than the number of mono-blue cards with "untap target permanent", but is 12 extremely tiny compared to 18's comparative vastness? And the bulk of those blue cards are older than the bulk of the green cards.
I'll acknowledge that I didn't look at multicolor cards, miscellaneous stuff like Arbor Elf, etc., but I think comparing pure land untapping ability between the colors is sufficient to demonstrate their relative presence. So unless I missed something else in my admittedly quick and simple search, I'm going to stand by my statement. Untapping lands is primary in green, and untapping permanents as a whole is primary in blue. If anything, green land untapping is building up, rather than falling off in recent years.
SufferFromEDHD on
Land, ho!
1 year ago
Overburden > Crystal Shard
Do you need the equipment? Damping Matrix, Null Rod and Collector Ouphe would do serious work in this strategy.
Floodbringer and Oboro Breezecaller value.
SufferFromEDHD on
Fear of The Deep
2 years ago
DreadKhan I too am a big fan of Oboro Breezecaller. Deserted Temple on a stick is extremely useful. I noticed in your detailed analysis you did not mention Floodbringer. Are you not a fan of Rishadan Port on a stick? Both offer serious utility in opposite directions.
DreadKhan on
Fear of The Deep
2 years ago
Here are a few ideas, maybe something will work for you?
One of my favorite cards in Tatyova is Oboro Breezecaller, this can easily be made mana positive, which makes it very easy to go infinite with Retreat to Coralhelm, or to just make mana for you (it helps if you can untap a land that taps for 2, be it Temple of the False God, Guildless Commons, Simic Growth Chamber, or Jungle Basin there are better lands but these untap fine. Another old favorite of mine is Soratami Mirror-Mage, this is also mana neutral at worst (1 mana per land to bounce), and you get to bounce a creature via it. For a bit more money (but you require Islands), you could try Flooded Shoreline, this card is bonkers if you can replay lands/count on hitting 2 Islands. Finally, Tatyova probably shouldn't leave home without Gush, even without Mystic Sanctuary shenanigans it's still a very strong draw spell.
I could be wrong, but I feel like Gretchen Titchwillow is a better card than Zimone? Both are decent fits, but it's very hard to combo off with Zimone in my experience as the lands enter tapped, Gretchen lets you use spare mana to ramp/draw cards at the same time. I think you could easily justify both if you wanted.
At the moment Crop Rotation is pretty cheap, it's a very good card in Tatyova, if you replace a land with a 2 mana land like Temple of the False God you actually ramp yourself (right away with Temple).
Stone-Seeder Hierophant is a really good version of Lotus Cobra if you have lands that tap for more than 1, but it's also another budget Lotus Cobra either way. This card is much better on a higher budget (with stuff like Ashaya, Soul of the Wild especially, or Lotus Field/Lotus Vale), but it should do work here too.
A few more budget fetchlands you could run include Bant Panorama, Terminal Moraine, and Warped Landscape, any of these enters untapped and can find whatever land you want if you have nothing better to do with your resources.
If you've got a lot of lands (and tend to put out some tokens, but not an infinite number), The Great Aurora offers a weird-but-useful board wipe option. As long as you've got a decent board (and run more lands), you'll get enough lands that you aren't hurt very much, spikier decks that are thin on lands get hurt badly, while decks with too many tokens just draw themselves to death.
As Tatyova decks tend to have a fair bit of mana, you might look at Curse of the Swine, and/or Mass Manipulation. Another bigger mana card that can do a huge amount of stuff (almost anything you need really) is Primal Command, I use that and Elixir of Immortality to recycle my graveyard, but I tend to end up in infinite loops pretty easily, so YMMV without strong discard outlets like Mind Over Matter.
If you want a high budget card that has ridiculous synergy, you might take a look at the aforementioned Ashaya, Soul of the Wild, this makes all your creatures into lands, meaning any non-token creature that ETBs will draw you a card, but it also forms various combos. It's hard to find a card that Tatyova wants more in my experience.
It was mentioned already, but 40 lands isn't exactly a ton in Tatyova, you've also got a lot of creatures that benefit from having extra lands in hand. At 40 lands you are at a real risk of missing your 5th land drop, let alone your 6th to draw a card. I run 45, and I often feel like I should run more (keep in mind, at 45 lands you still only 'expect' to have 3.2 lands, so if you have even 1 less than normal you almost certainly have to mulligan, 40 means even more mulligans). In my experience, many ramp spells that normally are worthwhile just aren't in Tatyova when you could just run a land instead (and not have to pay mana for your land drop).
DreadKhan on
Gretchen Titchwillow counter-ramp
2 years ago
I could be wrong, but I think more lands would be an asset here, in particular how about some utility lands on top of what you've already got? War Room is a nice draw effect, if you can bounce and replay it you get access to extra activations. Bant Panorama can find either a Forest or Island and counts for extra landfall. Blighted Woodland and Myriad Landscape are nifty lands that offer another mana sink you can turn to if your Commander is removed. Castle Vantress is a pretty big mana sink that's never bad to have around, and you're likely to have Islands out.
Tatyova, Benthic Druid nets you extra draw when you hit landfall (as does Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait), stuff like Scute Swarm and Rampaging Baloths can make an army for you to help serve as a win con.
This is pretty out there, but stuff like Oboro Breezecaller and ramp on landfall creatures like Stone-Seeder Hierophant in particular can generate enough mana to go infinite with Gretchen if you have a land that taps for 2 or more out, infinite mana and card draw and ramp sounds really good to me, you might even deck yourself. Flooded Shoreline in particular seems like a nice land bounce effect, as long as you're not particular about the specific land you bounce, it even works with Mystic Sanctuary.
DreadKhan on
[EDH] Tatyova 25$ budget
2 years ago
Have you thought about tossing Harrow in? It's usually better Roiling Regrowth, as long as nobody counters your ramp spells. Stone-Seeder Hierophant has to tap to ramp you, but if you can hit multiple landfall per turn it can be a lot of mana.
This is pretty out there, but Simic Growth Chamber and Guildless Commons are interesting cards, they offer access to an extra land drop as a floor, but technically you can bounce the land itself and replay it if you've got ways to do it, like Skyshroud Ranger for example (there are others, not all low budget, but several are), it can let you hit potentially infinite land drops using a card like Retreat to Coralhelm, which is pretty powerful in Tatyova. Retreat also interacts positively with Tatyova and Dreamscape Artist, which is pretty budget and is a source of tons of landfall over time even without Retreat. Oboro Breezecaller is a nifty way to keep hitting land drops, even if you're not really gaining ground you still draw cards. She can ramp you nicely if you have lands that tap for more than 1 mana, which can be via the Growth Chamber, Commons, or via an aura like Wild Growth or Overgrowth or Fertile Ground, and they are some of the more efficient ramp as long as people don't run enchantment hate/wipes, you can enchant an untapped land often and gain that ramp the same turn, which is usually better/safer than a ramp rock. I also like Soratami Mirror-Mage and Meloku the Clouded Mirror, all three can readily go infinite with Retreat to Coralhelm and a creature that taps to put a land into play, and all 3 make it very easy to hit your potential land drops. Not really sure why, but while everyone agrees Thrasios is amazing, very few people seem to care about Parcelbeast, but it's a good card in Tatyova. If you have Retreat out obviously you can untap when you hit a land, and if you have extra landfall available, you can use a separate landfall to untap the Parcelbeast so you can keep trying for another land, but it's not like 1 mana and tapping your Parcelbeast is a big ask. Also, if you can manage to put a Parcelbeast (or any other Mutate creature, including something like Sea-Dasher Octopus could be decent, there are some huge bodies) onto a Scute Swarm, you'll clone the mutated creature, which can be a 7/7 potentially. Most Mutate creatures seem to just give you a buff when they mutate, but some offer useful abilities that you'd like cloned. This will weird people out, but it's a nice play in budget I suspect.
A bit random, but Tatyova decks should usually be running the card Gush, you might not even mind bouncing the lands, the card draw is a nice perk, with the cost being the main upside of the card. It interacts nicely with Mystic Sanctuary and the aforementioned land-into-play dorks and Retreat to Coralhelm to draw as much as you want, and have other landfall benefits. Even if all you do is draw 2 cards and hit 2 more land drops you would have missed, that's a huge payoff for literally no mana IMHO.
I like having Primal Command in budget Green decks, it's a lot of mana but it can do a lot of stuff technically. If you throw in anything that can recur it, you can keep reshuffling your graveyard back in, which can be useful. Curse of the Swine is a nice juicy removal spell for Simic, it not only exiles, it can hit tons of targets, allowing you to compete with recursive decks more readily.
Cool deck, hope some of this is interesting/helpful!
levy120 on
Tatyova, Benthic Druid Landfall / Tokens
3 years ago
A friend in my playgroup used to play land bounce decks with a lot of Moonfolk
I think these would also be great for you:
