Mana Drain
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Freeform Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Oldschool 93/94 Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
PreDH Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Mana Drain

Instant

Counter target spell. At the beginning of your next main phase, add an amount of equal to that spell's mana value.

DreadKhan on Zur's Toolbox

3 days ago

I like this list, but I feel like Ad Naus should never risk randoming into a Commandeer, I hate the idea of not being able to take one more card at 7 instead of 4.

I also feel like Dispel should be in to protect Zur/counter key Instants that dominate High Power/cEDH, and Strix Serenade seems like a really good way to proactively deal with Opposition Agent.

I feel like if you're going to bother with Counterspell you'd look at Mana Drain first? It's pricy I admit.

SufferFromEDHD on Darkest Depths

1 month ago

Cut the Cloudposts. etb tapped is too slow for Vintage. Add:

2 Ancient Tomb for sure.

1 Library of Alexandria! Or Waterlogged Grove?

1 Academy Ruins perhaps, maybe?

1 Urza's Saga kind of a nonbo with Tabernacle but the tutor seems clutch with all the jewelry. Now you can cut 2 or 3 Manifold Key for a full playset of Horn of Greed to max out the land strategy.

Since we are burning $ maybe upgrade some of those islands into Tropical Island

Mana Drain is perfect for accelerating Horn of Greed or paying for Dark Depths. The 8 Forces might be too many for a list light in blue. Mental Misstep and the Crop Rotation might serve a better role... Teferi's Response ;)

Mortlocke on Phyrexian Opera : Atraxa

6 months ago

Venum,

In regards to your manabase, you still haven't answered what your budget is looking like. A manabase tends to be the most expensive (and important) part of any EDH deck. Does your playgroup allow proxies?

Side tangent - the upcoming set Edge of Eternities has recently teased the return of shock lands. Shock Lands are some of, if not the best lands in modern magic. With this upcoming reprint they will be more accessible than ever so I highly recommend you get them their prices lower, namely: Watery Grave, Breeding Pool, Godless Shrine, Hallowed Fountainfoil, Overgrown Tombfoil and Temple Gardenfoil.

You slightly misunderstood what I meant when I asked about your meta. Do you use the bracket system that was introduced by Wizards? Using that to describe your deck (or the one you wish to build) will make this process go over much more smoothly. Seeing that your Meta includes the infamous likes of Najeela, the Blade-Blossom and Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow you are facing some very strong commanders that would likely have decks that would place them in Bracket 4 (using the aforementioned bracket system as a reference). But, and a very big but here - it depends on what kind of decks these commanders helm. Do they have big expensive manabases with lots of (monetary) expensive interaction cards? e.g. Mana Drain, Force of Will, Mana Vault

It seems here that you have a misunderstanding of infinite combos. The aforementioned combo of Thassa's Oracle and Demonic Consultation are used almost exclusively in the alternate format known as Competitive EDH or cEDH. That is an essential combo for the format, and is expected to be part of a deck running . To you that may look like someone who just doesn't want to engage with other players - but to those who wield the combo in a game where other players are using similar strategies this is what everyone signed up for. Infinite combos are a staple of Magic and Commander. I understand that you are a person and you are absolutely entitled to your opinion. But please, have consistent logic here: Infinite Combos may be unpopular to some players, but for the love of Father Yawgmoth Poison is a FAR less popular mechanic in Commander.

Not saying you shouldn't use it - I for one embrace it. But using Poison will give you a distinct political disadvantage at just about every single table you show up to. Once the other players know, they will more than likely work together to tear apart your boardstate and shove you off the table.

Mortlocke on Commander Sliver Deck

10 months ago

Okay Twinships, lets start with the most important thing you must know about Slivers - and repeat after me: "Slivers are a sometimes food.". While they are amazing, and the more show up the more ridiculous the boardstate - you don't need all of them. There are times when you absolutely need room for other things like interaction, engines, you know...an actual deck. First things first - Who is your commander? To designate a Commander for the list on TappedOut you need to tag the card with CMDR when editing your deck list. Depending on the Commander, choices and recommendations will vary.

As of now, your deck has no engines, interaction, or resiliency - all of which are needed as you seem to be suffering from the classic Sliver problem of poor table politics. So, lets start looking at some card recommendations:

  • Lurking Predators: You need an engine, and this is as good as any. It also plays into table politics as it disincentivizes other decks from popping off at best, at worst it gets your opponents focusing on it instead of your creatures.

  • Intruder Alarm: You need an engine, this one in particular is one of the usual suspects for slivers that help close out games. When Heart Sliver (or any other haste enabler) and Manaweft Sliver (or any other dork) are on the field you can at worst play your whole hand, and at best play your whole deck and close the game on the same turn. Just make sure you only play this when you can effectively end the game as it is an effect that benefits your opponents as well.

  • Worldly Tutor: You need tutors.

  • Sylvan Tutor: You need tutors.
  • Demonic Tutor: You need tutors.
  • Grim Tutor: You need tutors.
  • Guardian Project: You need card draw.
  • Dormant Sliver: This is an optional card draw suggestion as you need a reliable sac outlet to remove the Defender ability from your Sliver
  • Counterspell: You need interaction.
  • Mana Drain: You need interaction.
  • Strix Serenade: You need interaction.
  • Swan Song: You need interaction.
  • Kindred Dominance: You need mass removal to slow down faster players.
  • Blasphemous Act: You need mass removal to slow down faster players. This also combos very well with Spiteful Sliver as well.
  • Cyclonic Rift: You need mass removal to slow down faster players and have answers.
  • Consider the Talisman cycle: Talisman of Curiosity, Talisman of Dominance etc. You need more rocks and means of fixing your manabase.
  • Kodama's Reach: The Sister to Cultivate - you need as many options as possible to fix your manabase in this deck as you are running all 5 colors. 5 Color decks tend to run slow and inefficient if you don't invest heavily in the manabase and/or in many different options for color fixing. On that same note, consider Skyshroud Claim as it is also very similar in nature as long as you have lands with multiple subtypes e.g. Stomping Groundfoil or Breeding Poolfoil which are both Forests but also are other land types. Also on that note - get shocklands. All of them. If you can also afford it get the Kahns of Tarkir/Onslaught/Zendikar Fetchlands as well. An okay cheaper substitute for the previously mentioned would be the Mirage Fetchlands - but they're an incomplete cycle. Sorry for the tangent here.

Now, these are just a start to some suggestions and ideas for your deck. But we can't get started until you designate your commander. Then we can start cutting to make room. Are there any pet cards or ideas you have? Please share.

Mortlocke on water proof deck (v.3.0)

10 months ago

Felipix,

I can see that you are starting a Primer, in case you don't have them I suggest the following resource: Epochalyptik's Do you want to write a primer? I've found it useful and hope you do as well. So, first things first I have some questions:

  1. What decks do you intend to play with using this deck? Do you want to play in a High Powered pod with degenerate spells like Mana Drain, Force of Will, Winter Orb and the like? Or is this a pod with lower power?

  2. What's the budget with this deck? Is it to be in the same mold as an upgraded precon?

  3. How do you want to win?

I saw your comments on the Advertise your deck forum, and I can see that you wish to add more draw and more control. In regards to draw I can see that Rhystic Study was suggested before and you have budgetary concerns - there is always the option to proxy. If your playgroup allows it of course.

Possible subthemes/Wincons to consider outside of Voltron: - A flicker (exile a permanent then return it to the battlefield end of turn) subtheme may be an interesting direction to go with this deck. There are numerous options to go with in blue and including creatures such as Thassa, Deep-Dwelling, Scourge of Fleets, Archaeomancer, Spark Double, and Spellseeker to use and abuse their enter the battlefield effects.

Honorable Mentions for fun Control/Card Advantage effects:

  • Aven Courier - this guy helps your commander do more of what it likes to do. You should try and slot him in.
  • Stormtide Leviathan - this guy can stop combat damage from reaching you for a time
  • Faerie Mastermind - fun little taxing effects like this are great because it guarantees card advantage
  • Wavebreak Hippocamp - given your deck has a lot of interaction it's likely you could keep up your tempo with this guy out

Mortlocke on A Pulverizer? Perrie the Pulverizer?!

11 months ago

Hi Baron777,

Just responding to your post here. I hope you don't mind. Just for my own understanding, I think you need to clarify what kind of decks you want to play against. When you say "This is designed as a fun 6-7 level deck that..." This tells me nothing. When discussing your deck I suggest following this prompt:

  1. My deck has a budget of...
  2. My manabase has the most efficient lands available/most cheap and slow utility tapped lands and tapped fetches/a mix between the two
  3. My deck threatens to kill an opponent between turns x and y/The most important turns for my deck are between x and y when my deck can pop off when doing z.

Based off of the previously mentioned cards in your post - namely Solemnity and Torpor Orb it sounds like your meta has a lot of particularly nasty control magic that can absolutely one card you out of a game. Therefore I suggest adding both more ramp and more interaction - you're in the colors for it:

In summary, I think your deck doesn't match what it's playing against. You need to have more consistency if you are going up against opponents who are going to completely lock you out of a game. To get that, you need to make sure you can target problem permanents as often as possible.

xraider on Losing Friends But Creating Ally's

1 year ago

I’m not sure why I’m helping you with this nasty deck. I would suggest adding more board wipes and counterspells to better protect your planeswalkers, especially in our creature-heavy meta. Cards like Blasphemous Act, Farewell, Supreme Verdict, Counterspell, Mana Drain, Reject Imperfection, and Desynchronization could be great additions.

Here are a few more cards to consider for your deck: Teferi's Talent, All Will Be One, Rowan's Talent, Deification, Sphere of Safety, Take the Bait, and Djeru, With Eyes Open.

Good luck

hyalopterouslemur on MASSIVE EDH RC ban list …

1 year ago

TBH, I usually don't support bans, but in Mana Crypt's case, yeah, it's arguably past time. And I've done basic land, Sol Ring, signet once, but at least I couldn't play anything else with my four mana that turn. Mana Crypt is arguably worse since you now have three mana available on turn 1.

Jeweled Lotus has the same problems as all lotoi: Three mana for nothing is just too much.

Mortlocke says... "This new found RC philosophy which desires to force players into slower games might continue with the sudden banning additional favorites like Mana Drain, Sylvan Library, or Smothering Tithe."

That's actually pretty funny, I actually think of Sylvan Library as somewhat overrated. It's great if you can either double your card draw or consistently scry/reshuffle the rejected cards away, but otherwise, you will have the same two remaining cards, just with a new one on the bottom. Unless you're paying 4 (or 8) life every turn.

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