Whenever you cast a spell, proliferate. (You choose any number of permanents and/or players with counters on them, then give each another counter of a kind already there.)
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Inexorable Tide occurrence in decks from the last year
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Inexorable Tide Discussion
3 weeks ago
Heyoo, hope you don't find this weird. I was bored and just looking through the decklist you sent me 5ever ago. I had some thoughts on cards you might want to consider, just food for thought.
Overwhelming Stampede - awesome sorc, and you normally have at least 1 stupidly massive creature. 3 to 4 dollars.
Zendikar Resurgent - double your mana, draw cards for playing creatures, 4 bucks.
Stonecoil Serpent - not a hydra, but an X spell for you to double counters on later with vorel. I have one of these that you can just have, its like 4 or 5 bucks.
Courage in Crisis - counter on a creature and a proliferate trigger for 3 mana, pretty solid. trash common card super cheap.
Invigorating Surge - another super cheap instant, doubles counters similar to vorel's ability.
Solidarity of Heroes - same effect, more double trouble ;).
Inexorable Tide - proliferate whenever you cast a spell... pretty OP. 5 bucks.
Increasing Savagery - wowsa, that's a lot of counters, and ONLY A DOLLAR. nasty.
Bred for the Hunt - Draw cards for creatures with counters dealing dmg, cheap too.
Rampant Growth - great counterspell in these colors, worth considering since you cast really expensive spells. 1 doll hair.
Lazotep Plating - you probably have 10 of these lying around. way to protect your shiz.
Beast Within - staple removal in green.
Zameck Guildmage card draw dawg, card draw for counters. tight tight tight.
Its practically hydra tribal, get yo'self a Coat of Arms , I think you already have one in your binder.
If you decide to shell out on some cards, I think a few more expensive cards worth your while would be: Primal Vigor Branching Evolution Cyclonic Rift Rampant Growth - I have this in my Kenrith deck, its pretty great. Double Vorel's effectiveness with an equipment.
Alrighty, my rant is over.
1 month ago
More ways to proliferate would add to the deck such as:
Among many others to build up your energy counters quicker.
1 month ago
This deck looks awesome. With Jorn, it seems you'd want a pretty specific card pool. That makes suggesting cards tough. I still have something for you:
Bear Umbra is another great way to untap your lands. Contagion Clasp and Inexorable Tide are powerful proliferate cards. Also, all of the land auras such as Fertile Ground increase the effect Jorn has.
2 months ago
Mana base: I see you're running a lot of modal lands, I'd recommend switching these out for basic lands or more named lands (Forest, Plains etc). The modal lands aren't searchable off of your ramp spells like Spoils of Victory or Farseek. I really like having a named land focus in Esika's mana base - shock lands ( Overgrown Tomb , Sacred Foundry etc.) should replace the snow dual lands if your budget allows for them. If not (understandable, shock lands for a 5 colour deck eat your wallet) then I'd play all 5 Triomes, and all 5 named lands that enter untapped if you control 2 or more basic lands ( Prairie Stream , Smoldering Marsh etc.) along with 2-4 of each basic land and some basic land ramp alongside your named land ramp such as Rampant Growth , Cultivate & Kodama's Reach . Land Tax is also a solid option if you run at least a couple of each basic land as it can colour fix you very early on so you can play The Prismatic Bridge asap. I know you're running counter increasers like Vorinclex, but I'd also remove the 2 counter based lands you have as well, without something like Vorinclex or Doubling Season out they're sub-optimal.
I'd take out the mana rocks you have in there, and replace them with more ramp sorceries like Three Visits , Ranger's Path , Skyshroud Claim , and Nature's Lore . Yes, they search specifically for Forests, but with enough named dual lands or Triomes they'll still allow you to search for the colour you need. If you didn't want to add in more ramp sorceries, low cmc legendary creatures that you can tap for mana via Esika's ability are viable (this would require you to have cards that allow you to bounce Esika back to hand ideally so you could cast her enchantment side when needed). Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy is an absolute beast in this deck, even if you whiff on his ability a lot being able to tap any legendary creature for 2 mana of any colour from turn 2 onwards is dummy strong. If you go down this route untap cards like Derevi, Empyrial Tactician , Dramatic Reversal , Samut, Voice of Dissent and Kiora's Follower can help to give you buckets of mana each turn.
Planeswalkers/counter generation: Unless you decide to add flicker/sac & reanimate/ability copyers, I'd cut Deepglow Skate as it's a one-time-only version of Doubling Season for the same mana cost. Pir, Imaginative Rascal is brilliant in this kind of deck as his ability a) increases both starting loyalty and uptick loyalty gain and b) stacks with Vorinclex & Doubling Season. Having Pir & either Doubling Season or Vorinclex out will turn a +1 uptick into +4, a starting loyalty count of 5 becomes 12. Inexorable Tide & Contagion Engine are worth considering too, I can understand not adding Tide as you're free-dropping a good chunk of your Planesalkers/creatures with The Prismatic Bridge rather than casting them, but Contagion Engine is non-targeted creature removal as well 2 instances of proliferate per turn (Pir & proliferate = happy Planeswalker noises). Estrid, the Masked , Oath of Jace & Sphere of Safety would be a good group of cards to add - Estrid allows you to untap any enchanted permanent, her second ability will let you enchant any permanent (not just creatures) and increase your enchantment count for Sphere of Safety, and her ult is one of your only ways of recurring enchantments should they get destroyed (this won't allow you to recur The Prismatic Bridge though). Oath of Jace is great for filtering through your topdeck during your upkeep to choose your Bridge targets. Kaya the Inexorable is incredible in a superfriends deck - with your counter generation you'll have no problem getting her ult off straight away, which will allow you to free cast any legendary card once a turn, so if people kill (or even exile) your Planeswalkers or important legendary cards like Vorinclex/Chain Veil etc. you can always get them back. She also has removal, and recursion for your creatures. Samut, the Tested . Samut, the Tested . Samut, the Tested . For the love of all that is holy, play Samut because dropping her with Doubling Season or Vorinclex out can end games there and then. I have a combo in my Esika deck that will guarantee you first place unless Samut gets countered on the stack. Lithoform Engine , Strionic Resonator & Rings of Brighthearth will help you capitalize on important abilities like Planeswalker ults, The Prismatic Bridge and proliferate. Getting off an emblem and then going Lithoform Engine > Rings of Brighthearth to get 3 of those emblems instead of one is pretty explosive.
Creatures: Captain Sisay would work quite well here as she can search any legendary card in your deck which is invaluable in Esika and isn't as pricey/colour dependant as Sisay, Weatherlight Captain (I'm not saying cut her, but 2 Sisays are better than one). Kodama of the East Tree will let you chuck out Planeswalkers like nobody's business, The Prismatic Bridge now doubles its usefulness per turn. Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire is a great tutor in Esika as he's cheap, he can swing without tapping due to Esika giving him Vigilance, search something using his boast ability and put it on top of your library (something something Prismatic Bridge shenanigans) and then tap for mana in your 2nd main phase.
I hope what I've said helps, I love building Superfriends and all the whacky stuff you can do with it
3 months ago
WaveHarp I too am excited for the very flavorful new smallclex. I intend on slotting him in for Corrupted Conscience. I'm also thinking of trying out Dovin's Veto in Inexorable Tide's slot as well. What changes would you make to your own Atraxa infect deck with the new smallclex in mind?
3 months ago
AscendedLandfalls, Doombeard1984, I think i'm going to cut both Inexorable Tide and Corrupted Conscience in favor of the new unofficially spoiled card and Dovin's Veto. Tide and Conscience were always very underwhelming cards in my opinion - only performing well in a handful of situations. I wish wizards printed something like " - instant - counter target non-creature spell, proliferate" - and have it praetor themed. Well, one can dream at least. For now, these are my planned changes. What do you all think?
3 months ago
EDHrec is also a good resource, it has an "expensive" filter now, but if you leave it unfiltered, can help to find some surprisingly good cards with a low $ value that people are playing. There is also a "cheap" filter.
EDH is really a fun format, I have 1 modern, 2 pioneer decks, 2 cEDH decks, 2 EDH decks, 4 $50 budget EDH, and 0 standard decks! I do play standard on Arena though (4 standard, 3 brawl).
In EDH, little damage like Guttersnipe puts out isn't usually that useful unless your adding into a combo, which it can a recursive Turnabout + Reiterate will kill, but it really lends itself to better payoffs like a Fall of the Titans, Comet Storm, Whispers of the Muse, Stroke of Genius type effects that also build your Experience. I run 8 creatures and 1 enchantment, which is also pretty high, If I wasn't running Dualcaster Mage + Twinflame I would also exclude Imperial Recruiter and Vedalken AEthermage reducing my count to 5. Probably 4/5 creatures / 1 planeswalker / 2/3 enchantments is probably the right mix though honestly if you can build within that framework.
I playtested your deck a bit Flux Channeler worked well, Inexorable Tide was a little to high CMC for me. The issue I had was that until Mizzix of the Izmagnus has generated an Experience I had nothing to propagate, so getting an early Experience will be important which means stuff like Desperate Ritual, High Tide, Pyretic Ritual, Seething Song mostly. Going to need some protection either 1 or 2 CMC counterspells (the 2 CMC ones are still reasonably priced, 0/1 are not). Lightning Greaves is an obvious one, that can be tutored with a Muddle the Mixture but it's getting expensive now too (wtf).
I also found with the propogate that I got up to 8 counters, which isn't really necessary, because honestly 3/4 counters allows you to go infinite with many things (like Reiterate). Niv-Mizzet, Parun looks to be a pain to cast, he's nice, but almost unplayable here.
This thing tested like molasses Empowered Autogenerator, I would avoid that, lots of cheap CMC2/3 mana accelrators, plus all the ones I listed above.
Once you decide on a payoff goal, i think you'll see the deck rounding out. Lots of easy cuts in the above list to get down to 120 cards, probably about 10 you need to add into the mix, so putting into a cut for 130 list.
3 months ago
Thank you both AscendedLandfalls and Doombeard1984 for your discussion regarding Inexorable Tide and Corrupted Conscience. Personally I've had limited success with Corrupted Conscience. Most of the time i'd just use it on another players' commander. Inexorable Tide actually won me a game on the other hand - I was fortunate enough to have poison counters on all my opponents and Tide already on the field and a full grip of cards. I simply cast enough cards to secure the "W" at the critical moment. I'm definitely on the fence between which card to substitute out for the unofficially-spoiled-card-thatwontbenamed and will simply give each a try to see what works.