Liliana's Caress

Enchantment

Whenever an opponent discards a card, that player loses 2 life.

Discussion (51)

SprkySprkyBoomMan on DreadKhan

1 week ago

DreadKhan I have a random question, would Liliana's Caress work with cards that make your opponent discard from their library, like Tome Scour ?

RijtBart on Yidris wheel and deal

3 weeks ago

Thanks for the feedback RNR_Gaming. I actually choose not to run Narset, Parter of Veils because it is counterproductive with a lot of cards I run in this deck such as Fate Unraveler , Liliana's Caress , Waste Not and Glint-Horn Buccaneer . It would make a lot of the deck a lot less effective at dealing damage. I consider her more of a lock piece and that is not what this deck is trying to do. She still is a good card though if you build this in a control shell kind of deck.

inferno2446 on Whoops!, was that your life total? So sorry dude..

1 month ago

I really like this deck and I'm planning on buying it but why do you have Wall of Frost , Guard Gomazoa and Fog Bank I don't really see their use in this deck, maybe try Phyrexian Tyranny , Psychosis Crawler and Liliana's Caress

skibulk on Liliana's Solid Waste

1 month ago

Shred Memory could possibly replace Faithless Looting . Shreds guarantee that you'll get your Waste Not. Lootings reduce your hand size by 1 (they don't replace themselves) and tend to weaken your draw power with Dark Deals. They also mill you faster. Mid to late game, you can use Shreds to fetch Liliana's Caress . Seething Song might be an interesting alternative to Manaforge Cinder . It would still help with the red mana issue, while also creating more opportunity to cast Reforge the Soul in the early game.

KidEnkidu on

1 month ago

toastySmorc you make a good point about the deck needing more ramp/fixing, I actually just cut Curse of Fool's Wisdom for a Fellwar Stone . However, your point about focusing on getting Niv or Nekusar out first is basically moot; there's so much redundancy in the deck for effects that kill people with wheels like Psychosis Crawler , Liliana's Caress , etc that you're either just gonna draw into one of them naturally, or you're gonna just play your commanders and go that route. I don't specifically need Niv or Nekusar at all, oftentimes I actually prefer to have Lili's Caress or, say, Waste Not .

hungry000 on Shadow Magic

1 month ago

I recommend having a 3:1 spit of Dead of Winter and Bontu's Last Reckoning , or at least a 2:2 split. Dead of Winter scales to kill big creatures in the late game and is able to kill pretty much anything they play before turn 3 without the huge downside that Reckoning has. Plus, playing snow lands lets you play some Frostwalk Bastion as a budget Mutavault ; manlands are relatively important in 8-Rack to help increase the clock and Bastion can even buy you an extra turn when it blocks.

Next: 8-Rack's goal is to get each player to topdeck mode as fast as possible, and while Necrogen Mists is a really good value card, its higher cmc means it doesn't get them to start topdecking as fast as a normal discard spell does and it literally does nothing to the opponent once you get into topdeck mode. Liliana's Caress is in the same boat since it doesn't make them discard.

I recommend cutting the Necrogen Mists and the Liliana's Caress es to play 4 Blackmail , 2 Funeral Charm , and 2 Stupor . Funeral Charm can make them discard cards as well as remove early game creatures while Blackmail and Stupor are both decent discard spells. They are less expensive than Necro Mists/Lili's Caress, too.

ShaDoWz_6677 on Golos Unchained

1 month ago

Just a word of advice. Definitely add Praetor's Grasp to your mainboard. The card does SO MUCH to stop your opponents from comboing off and you can use there card yourself.

Liliana's Caress seems very weak in this deck as you don't have that much besides Wheel and Windfall to make them discard in masses.

Lhurgyof on Discarding Discord

1 month ago

I'll make sure to check out your deck!

Waste Not has the same problems as Liliana's Caress and Megrim , I must admit. I'm not really sure if they're worth running, as the Megrim effects are game winners when chaining wheels. However, with the wheels being my only real source of discard it can be rough to get them to work.

What do you think? Would it be worth adding in more wheels, or would you cut those three cards and include something else?