Hollowhenge Overlord

Creature — Wolf

Flash

At the beginning of your upkeep, for each creature you control that’s a Wolf or a Werewolf, create a 2/2 green Wolf creature token.

Tokens

• Wolf 2/2 G

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (4)

TogbusPrime on Welves - 1st Deck

1 year ago

This isn't Modern legal either. Hollowhenge Overlord, Somberwald Beastmaster, and Timberwatch Elf aren't legal in the format. Until you've narrowed in on how you want your ideal build to be, and it sounds like you're on the way there since you decided to focus on elves with this build, I'd set your format to Casual. Either way, this seems like a fun concept and I look forward to watching it evolve.

Back to the legality thing, though, it's a very confusing time to be starting out. Thanks to Wizards including Commander cards in normal booster packs of the new sets it can be hard to tell what's legal in Standard and even formats like Modern. It's especially confusing in Modern's case as it's an eternal format, but the new Commander cards aren't legal in it. A good rule of thumb is if the card's set symbol is different than the rest of the pack's set symbol then it's not legal in Standard OR Modern.

Epicurus on

2 years ago

Howling Moon and Arlinn Kord  ^Flip wanna join this pack. And maybe one copy of Hollowhenge Overlord?

Do you make enough wolf tokens to include Echoing Courage?

elk88 on Who Let the Dogs Out?

2 years ago

Hey rafe028! There's nothing wrong with the card and considering this type of deck and it's intended power level, you could absolutely try it out if you'd like. I will say that it's creature quality isn't quite as high as several cards in the list. It's ability is conditional on a good board state (see my comments on board wipes in the update) and it only targets players (the deck doesn't usually have much issue creating a lot of damage or finishing off opponents). The one hiccup with the card is the activated cost. This deck; quite consistently, uses all or pretty much all it's mana every turn (on your turn or others assuming flash). For example Hound Tamer  ^Flip has an ability that I've yet to use. The trample that Tamer provides is great (and it's meant for redundancy since this deck wants/needs trample to get damage through consistently but more importantly to draw more cards) and it's ability is at least an available outlet if it's ever needed. Still though I haven't had to/needed to use it yet (threat of activation with blocks; especially with politicking and pointing that out, has often been enough). Keeping the 'activated ability' thought train going, I've used Duskwatch Recruiter  ^Flip a handful of times but again; referring to the board wipe comment, it's often been a come from behind/ dig for answers situation usually (or as I said in the update, when you're drawing lots of support but no gas). It's flip side for the cost reduction has often been it's better use. Being able to cast several creatures after drawing so many cards (similar effect with Cemetery Prowler) has been great (I'm not saying overextend but when you have 13 cards in hand it's better to use some than just discard). The last 'activation thought' is that the ones I've mentioned already in the deck are mana sinks and don't tap (or something like Howlpack Piper  ^Flip which uptaps) whereas Runebound Wolf is once a turn cycle due to the . You might sneak in fairly late game finisher on one player's end step, upkeep get the 2nd player with your ping and then attack the 3rd to pull out a win but that's probably magic xmas land in a lot of cases (life totals have to be perfect in relation to board state etc). More than likely though this will take a few turns to do (activate for 6, activate again for 6 etc) and your opponents will see this coming (whereas you play several buffing threats and attack for 30 on one turn in the same scenario).

Basically I'm saying when Runebound Wolf is good, you're already ahead and likely don't need it to close out the game/ finish off a player (like you've spiraled out of control with Hollowhenge Overlord and have 20 wolves in play. Then Runebound Wolf feels win more). When you're behind, it's ability isn't doing anything because you don't have the boadstate or you need all the mana to rebuild. And with the deck playing multiple spells a turn (from all the draw), you don't have left over mana to activate with any consistency to make it useful/a threat. It feels like it's ideal place/play is a very late game situation where it's cast and you methodically burn everyone out due to low life totals. Or you're in a game that has some sort of board stall (like someone is a pillow fort with stuff like Sphere of Safety or maybe a player has flooded the board with tokens and you can't get through or something similar). In those edge cases I'm more inclined to say 'you got me' and shuffle up.

As an aside, I will refer to the update and mention that Ill-Tempered Loner  ^Flip (more importantly and specifically Howlpack Avenger  ^Flip) and one of the board wipes I'm using (Blasphemous Act or Chain Reaction) with a decent board state will have the same desired effect of burning out the table. 9 wolves including Howlpack Avenger  ^Flip and Blasphemous Act will kill a table (okay fine it'll do 117dmg so maybe someone is at 3 because everyone was still at 40 lol.)

Now by all means, I don't want to be discouraging and suggest you give it a go. I'd love to hear some game play feedback on how it works for you. If you're knocking people out on the regular with it, let me know and I'll give it another look.

I appreciate your time, comment and feedback! Thanks!

elk

nicktibe on Tolsimir - Wolfgain

2 years ago

Hollowhenge Overlord seems perfect