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Cultivator of Blades
Creature — Elf Artificer
Fabricate 2 (When this creature enters the battlefield, put two +1/+1 counters on it or create two 1/1 colorless Servo artifact creature tokens.)
Whenever Cultivator of Blades attacks, you may have other attacking creatures get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is Cultivator of Blades's power.
king-saproling on G - Emissary Green
7 months ago
This is a great list. You might consider these:
Wild Beastmaster
Ohran Frostfang
Mycoloth
Cultivator of Blades
Cauldron of Souls
The Great Henge
Personally I would cut these:
Elvish Archivist
Lily Bowen, Raging Grandma
Drumhunter
Forgotten Ancient
Biogenic Upgrade
Helix Pinnacle
king-saproling on Lathiel the Bisexual Unicorn
10 months ago
Looks good. Personally I would make these swaps:
Second Breakfast -> Forgotten Ancient (allows you to use Lathiel's ability to essentially put counters on Lathiel himself, resulting in exponentially-increasing lifegain and counters, and also makes commander damage a more viable wincon)
Obscuring Haze -> Scrounging Bandar (same as above. also, fog effects like Obscuring Haze aren't needed since you gain so much life)
Felidar Retreat -> Light of Promise(not enough landfall support for Felidar Retreat. Light of Promise turns Lathiel into a major threat)
Tocasia's Welcome -> Hunter's Insight
Angelic Accord -> Sunbond(Sunbond is more impactful)
Elderscale Wurm -> Pathbreaker Ibex
Garruk Wildspeaker -> Gyre Sage
Rampant Growth -> Prize Pig(Pig would be crazy here!)
Farseek -> Incubation Druid
Sanguine Sacrament -> Armorcraft Judge
Ajani, Caller of the Pride -> Cultivator of Blades
Lanzo493 on Cards Like Grand Cenobite?
1 year ago
Some other cards would be Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest, Defiler of Vigor, Adriana, Captain of the Guard, and Cultivator of Blades.
Zugzou on Perrie, The Chopper
2 years ago
So you have an impressive pile of counter generating cards, but once you have Perrie and a dozen different counters in play, how do you turn that into three dead opponents?
Wild Beastmaster, Cultivator of Blades, Pathbreaker Ibex, Overwhelming Stampede, Champion of Lambholt
Card draw can also help close out a game.
Return of the Wildspeaker, Garruk, Primal Hunter, Prime Speaker Zegana, Rishkar's Expertise
These should help you turn your theme (different counters) into a strategy
king-saproling on Deuteronomy 30:19
2 years ago
Cool deck! Thoughts on these? Patriar's Seal, Necrologia, Unspeakable Symbol, Curse of Bounty, Marwyn, the Nurturer, Wild Beastmaster, Lathril, Blade of the Elves, Cultivator of Blades, Sanguine Bond, Vampiric Link (stacks with lifelink!), Momentous Fall, Soul's Majesty
Guerric on Marwyn Elf Stampede
2 years ago
Hi ShredderTTN86! Welcome to the world of EDH elves! When I first began playing what is now my Ezuri, Renegade Leader build six years ago, I made a lot of mistakes, learned from that process, and made what is now a pretty strong list. As such, it think I can offer some help!
To begin with, you said your goal is to offer and Elf synergy list. That was also my goal years ago, and I ran Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury as the commander, but what I found was that it was a weird hybrid between and elf deck and a stompy deck, and its not really possible to do both well. You can definitely make a stompy deck that uses elf dorks and such for mana ramp, but most of your other elven synergies (lords and such) would need to be jettisoned for stompy cards. With Marwyn, the Nurturer you can really do either. If you wanted to go this route you would have just enough elf dorks and token spells to build counters, would protect her with Heroic Intervention and Wrap in Vigor effects, and would use her to dump as many big, dumb green creatures onto the battlefield as possible.
If you want to run true elves synergy, however, you want to cut any stompy creature that doesn't enable your elves (ex. Craterhoof Behemoth makes it but Ghalta, Primal Hunger does not, lower your curve, replace as many lands with dorks as possible, and play lots of elf lords. Keep in mind, elf lords also help Marwyn tap for more mana! I notice that you have tons of artifacts here that do nothing for most of your elves excepting Marwyn. I would probably cut a lot of these and add more elf creatures for a strong synergy build. Super powerful ones like The Ozolith and the infinite mana combo enabling Umbral Mantle should remain (you should also add Sword of the Paruns, which can also enable infinite mana with Marwyn), but even other good cards like Gauntlet of Power should be cut because you can do it better with elves. I think what surprises me most here is the lack of dorks. Llanowar Elves, Elvish Mystic, and Fyndhorn Elves are the backbone of any elf build and core to most stompy ones too. You also don't want to neglect Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf, and Springbloom Druid, which can up your elf count while finding and ramping out lands for you. As far as big mana tappers go, Circle of Dreams Druid, Wirewood Channeler, and Elvish Guidance are better than Gauntlet of Power and Karametra's Acolyte (which isn't an elf). Running synergy means you also want to run a lot of lords, such as Elvish Champion, Elvish Clancaller, Imperious Perfect, Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen, Canopy Tactician, Joraga Warcaller, and Cultivator of Blades will buff both Marwyn and all of your elves, while also putting counters on Marwyn (for a double buff in effect) and moving you towards running your opponents over.
If you are interested, the link to my Ezuri Elf deck is here- Elfpocalypse Now! (Under Construction). The primer isn't finished yet, but even the sections that are there on the commander and on breaking down the tribe might help with the synergy piece. If you decide after all you'd rather just do stompy, there are other great experts on tappedout like Kamerot that can help with that! I hope this helps a bit, and please let me know if you want any additional help or have any further questions!
Guerric on Help Building my First Competitive …
2 years ago
Hi ionlyplayelves!
I can definitely see removing Casualties of War. It is devastating in the right context, but it does cost six mana, and while you'll have much more than most, it sometimes better just to play more mana efficient single-target removal spells like Beast Within, Go for the Throat, Hero's Downfall, etc.
I actually like Gnarlroot Trapper because it's another dork. I think if you build this right you'll have a lot of lifegain and the one won't bother you too much, and of course the deathtouch is a nice bonus.
I think Pact of the Serpent is a great card. You could potentially draw a crazy amount of cards with it, but for three mana it will be great even if you get only three to five.
I hear the argument on Twinblade Assassins. Five mana is a lot for something that will only draw you one extra card on each of your turns, provided that something dies. This is on top of the fact that creatures are the easiest permanent type to kill. Phyrexian Arena would give you the card automatically. Dark Prophecy would give you one any time one of your creatures dies. Grim Haruspex will give you one any time a non-token creature dies. Beast Whisperer gives you one whenever an elf ETBs. These are all very good rates, unlike Assassin. You need to have 10-12 pieces of card draw in the deck, but this is a suboptimal one. I also think if you get this going right you'll have a lot of things dying, and Miara, Thorn of the Glade will be a powerhouse. Moldervine Reclamation is similar. Last week my friend who play's Lathril had something like twenty-five elves on the battlefield (which is easy to do when you play Lathril right!) I had to board wipe him to keep us alive, but he drew a quarter of his deck and gained 25 life. Needless to say, it was a temporary reprieve at best! It's a good card.
You definitely want Farhaven Elf, Springbloom Druid, and Wood Elves in any elf deck in commander- they are the best there is. Fetching your lands and ramping them onto the battlefield while leaving a body behind that can attack and block and be anthemed by your lords is really great.
Binding the Old Gods is kind of meh. I think your instinct is correct there! It costs 4 mana and is slow and grindy for what it does. Sure, we need to kill stuff and ramp lands, but when we kill stuff we'd rather just use Doom Blade for 2cmc.
Cultivator of Blades isn't essential, but it's very easy to underrate. At minimum it gives all of your elves +3/+3 when you attack till end of turn. If Elvish Archdruid is out its +4/+4. If you tap Timberwatch Elf to dump ten counters on it and then immediately attack, your opponents are going to die that turn. The best part is that they'll never see it coming the first time you do it!
ionlyplayelves on Help Building my First Competitive …
2 years ago
Thanks Guerric, I've gone through the deck again and found some additional cards I'm thinking of removing in favor of more efficient ones or just to make some more room for the cards you recommended.
What are your thoughts on removing these as well?
Casualties of War - "expensive" but provides removal Gnarlroot Trapper - with all the dorks I have in nthe deck, I don't like that I have to pay 1 life to add mana but the deathtouch ability is nice I just don't attack often as I like to use the elves and tokens to deal direct damage with abilities or the new sac tactic im trying to do Pact of the Serpent - is this a good card? It's low cost but I'm not sure if others play themed decks as I do with elves so I'm not sure of its efficiency for its slot. Cultivator of Blades - I don't attack often so I'm not sure how usable this is Farhaven Elf - 2 for 1 land for its ability but given that I have so many dorks I'm looking at, is it worth the slot? Springbloom Druid 2 for 1 land creature and shuffles. Same concern as above. Wood Elves - Same cost as the previous 2 but only brings in one land. Twinblade Assassins - I don't see my creatures dying enough other than the sacrificing to justify this, but maybe I'm wrong. Thoughts? Miara, Thorn of the Glade - Paying 1 mana and 1 life seems expensive to draw a card. Binding the Old Gods - I like this saga but wanted to get your feedback on it. Should it be taking up a slot? Moldervine Reclamation - Again, don't see my creatures dying other than the sacrificing but it sounds like a great card for that. Is it worth the slot?
Thanks!
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