Havengul Lich

Creature — Zombie Wizard

: You may cast target creature from a graveyard this turn. When you cast that card this turn, Havengul Lich gains all activated abilities of that card until end of turn.

Discussion (51)

chriscross25 on Scarab "THE ZOMBIE GOD" god

1 month ago

kpres thank you a lot! Rooftop Storm , Havengul Lich and Tormod, the Desecrator are all on my eyes. I think i need more play testing with this deck to get the feeling what i can change.

I did not think about Eternalize. That is something i need to keep an eye on.

Also i am still not sure if i am happy with how many effect i have for self mill and mill in general, since i feel that Altar of the Brood and Altar of Dementia could be allstars in this deck.

kpres on Scarab "THE ZOMBIE GOD" god

1 month ago

Wow, very cool deck!

For zombies in blue, I would suggest Rooftop Storm and Havengul Lich , but that's all I can think of right now.

Also there are a few dudes with Eternalize that have abilities that scale with their power. Any other 1/1 that gets better when it's bigger would work. Champion of Wits , Thought Sponge , Flesh Carver , Mausoleum Wanderer , Old Man of the Sea .

Also there's this guy that you can exile from your graveyard with the Eternalize ability, and then re-cast from exile. Eternal Scourge

nomjas123 on Milling Gone Rogue (Precon Upgrade Guide)[PRIMER]

1 month ago

VorelNailo Thanks for reaching out!

Mesmeric Orb Mills a lot. Depends on how long it stays on the table, but usually 5-10 per turn triggered at untap, resolved at upkeep. One-time 2 generic mana investment. One of my favorites. Court of Cunning is stronger, as long as you can costitently keep monarch.

Ashiok, Dream Render - maybe less usefull if you don't have too much reanimation in your playgroup. I have a buddy playing Meren and I love going all Ashiok on him. Anyhow, anti-tutor is pretty powerful all around (kills ramp too).

My meta used to be full of boardwipes, so I put together Mulldrotha deck. I brewed with it a little bit and turns out I really liked how milling went, so I decided for that strategy.

If you wanna shift towards reanimation, then I would happily recommend: Havengul Lich - can reanimate your or opponents graves

Sewer Nemesis - can get quite big really fast

Consuming Aberration - as above. If you play a lot of small spells, which you seem to do, it provides good milling too.

Altar of Dementia - Good sac outlet for mill decks. Works amazing with the two above.

Living Death - crazy gamechanger with self-mill and ashiok

Use whatever you like :)

king-saproling on Sneak Attack v1

2 months ago

You might like these: Larceny, Coastal Piracy, Bident of Thassa, Inkfathom Infiltrator, Syr Konrad, the Grim, Bloodchief Ascension, Spark Double, Animate Dead, Memory Plunder, Spelltwine, Havengul Lich, Fireshrieker, Cloak and Dagger, Bruvac the Grandiloquent, Prickly Boggart, Thada Adel, Acquisitor

king-saproling on Thanks for the Cards!!!

4 months ago

You might like these: Thief of Sanity, Herald of Leshrac, Thada Adel, Acquisitor, Havengul Lich, Geth, Lord of the Vault, Nightveil Specter, Mindleecher, Dead Man's Chest, Mind's Dilation, Shared Fate, Diluvian Primordial, Wrexial, the Risen Deep, Lord of the Void, Memory Plunder, Spelltwine, Dredge the Mire

Zinon on Zombie tribal

4 months ago

Havengul Lich, Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Rooftop Storm make a really good combo, a Demonic Tutor type effect for 1 is quite good

Zinon on Zombie tribal

4 months ago

Chromatic Lantern for if you want/need to target an opponents creature with Havengul Lich

Optimator on Gisa and Geralf EDH V.2.2

4 months ago

I have a guide/repository for card-draw cards if you want to peruse it. You may find some cards with more synergies that you like. Weight of Memory can be decent for self-mill strategies, etc. EDH Card-Draw Master List

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As for cuts... let's see...

I don't love Forgotten Creation, personally. I always felt like I had non-creatures I wanted to keep in my hand all the time. Your deck is a bit more creature-heavy than mine, so perhaps it's pulling its weight.

You have the necessary components for Gravecrawler combos, but not a ton of tutors to make them reliable to get out. As such, perhaps one of the weaker payoffs for that can go, such as Vengeful Dead or Plague Belcher. If you're using Buried Alive to find the pieces then you'll only ever need one, and Diregraf Captain is an excellent choice. That said, your deck is fairly token-heavy so perhaps the incidental groupslug is being underappreciated by me.

I don't really love Ancient Excavation or Compelling Deterrence.

Personally I think Endless Ranks of the Dead is a bit of a trap unless you're all-in on the token strategy, such as a Ghoulcaller Gisa or Sidisi, Brood Tyrant zombie deck. Very fun, but a bit win-more unless you can really make it pop off. I've never been satisfied with it's performance in my deck, but you're going wider than I do so perhaps it's fine. Something to think about though.

It all kind of depends on how much you're self-milling. You have a decent amount, but you aren't exactly going all-in. As such, Grimoire of the Dead may be a liability. I have played around with that card in some of my decks and it just seems to get removed before it works. When it did I usually won the game, though. It's fun, but unreliable. Rise of the Dark Realms is obviously more reliable but it's very pricey.

I never found the self-mill in my deck as useful as regular card-draw. There's not a ton of point to have 15 zombies in the graveyard if you only want to cast one or two of them over and over. There are payoffs, of course, but to me it feels like being in the middle-ground is way worse than being all-in or having minimal self-mill. I just hate milling over answers or Rooftop Storm!

I don't think you're running enough to make Nightscape Familiar worth it.

Honestly, I don't love Havengul Lich a ton. The color restriction makes it hard to use and you have lots of ways to bring out your own zombies already. He's better in a more mill-your-opponents strategy IMO.

Tymaret Calls the Dead is a bit of a weaker card. Exiling your own zombies is a bit of a non-bo (unless your self-mill strategy is really rolling). The lifegain can be nice but I'd rather run Whip of Erebos if that's the goal, or a better card-draw card if that's the goal.