Progenitus

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Protection from everything

If Progenitus would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, reveal Progenitus and shuffle it into its owner's library instead.

Discussion (51)

TypicalTimmy on Just Chatting I

4 days ago

That's what I was leaning toward, Dylan. Here's why:

Between all 10 Guild Signets, Arcane Signet and Fellwar Stone I have access to 12 stones that produce a wide array of colors. Now I could add in Coldsteel Heart, but this enters tapped and only allows me one color, so I'd rather not limit myself so heavily. There are about 10 or so lands I have identified that can also produce any color mana with little downside, on top of the 10 shocks and 10 fetches.

So I think I can build a robust enough mana base to pay for a 10cmc Commander relatively quick. What'd I'd need from to speed things up is draw.

Draw is the single most important aspect of this deck, because without it I'd eventually run out of cards in hand. So, for the purposes of this deck, I think high-impact draw spells such as Sphinx's Revelation are actually well worth it. There is, of course, Karametra, God of Harvests but unfortunately she seeks out basics. Between 10 shocks, 10 fetches and 10 that produce all colors, I already have 30 lands accounted for. If I go even just two of each basic, that's 40 lands in a 99 card library.

Add on top of this the 12 stones I've mentioned and I have a staggering 52 mana-producing cards, leaving me just 37 of them left available to me.

If I put in 25 Gods, this means I will be on average drawing a God every 3rd - 4th turn. This however leaves me with a mere 12 cards left to work around.

This is where the difficult part comes into play; Between the shocks and fetches, that's a staggering 30 life that could be paid into them over the course of a full game. So, naturally I'd want some cards to regain said life.

Sphinx's Revelation works really well for this, as would cards such as Whip of Erebos, True Conviction and Titanic Ultimatum. However this leaves me 8 cards left.

I want to plan for wraths, as with my Gods being Indestructible I want to blow up the battlefield and reset the game, allowing me openings to swing in for the win. I feel that in order to appropriately push this, I'd want at minimum 5 wraths or wrath-like effects. I think I have settled upon:

• Cyclonic Rift
• Damnation
• Wrath of God
• Supreme Verdict
• Kaya's Wrath (Good for regaining life, too)

This leaves me with just three cards for draw. Bare in mind, Sphinx's Revelation is already listed and Karametra, God of Harvests effectively acts like draw. Something I think a lot of players miss is that there is a difference between draw and card advantage. What Karametra, God of Harvests does is give you card advantage by putting additional cards onto the battlefield. For each 1 creature you pay, you get an additional land for free. This means you remove a card from your deck, thereby increasing the percentages and chances of drawing into something better.

The same is true for fetch lands - Using one land to take another land out of your library is effectively removing 2 cards, meaning you improve percentages.

Between Sphinx's Revelation, Karametra, God of Harvests, Keranos, God of Storms and Ephara, God of the Polis there's a decent amount going on. There's also The Scarab God who I can use as an exile effect against graveyards to give me more bodies on the field, which in turn translates to scrying. The Locust God also works for draw, as well. So that's six already named in the base set. I still have 3 cards left to build into the +99.

Blue Sun's Zenith is an obvious must-have as it ensures replayability. With the insane density of mana in this deck, I'd be stupid to not play it.

I honestly feel Thopter Spy Network is a good choice as well, because not only does it give me 1/1 flyers as chump blockers while I wait on devotion to kick in, it also gives me card advantage when they deal combat damage. I think many players overlook the second ability on this card, as it rarely sees any play in any deck out there.

Finally, I think I rather enjoy the idea of Alhammarret's Archive. It gives me a guaranteed 2nd card per draw, gives me additional resources with all of the above-mentioned draw worked in by the Gods, doubles up all of the X-draw factors, and really helps me push forward the regaining of life.

Now I obviously don't "need" to run 25 Gods, however I want to ensure I am always able to put pressure on the boardstate.

So, for now, that's where I'm sitting. It's about shifting resources and honing in the design to make it both faster and more aggressive.

I know it won't be on par with Ur-Draogn, Scion, Jodah or some of the other more robust 5c Commanders out there, however it's a unique and fun design that's honestly really difficult to stop.

That's why I've settled on Progenitus. He's harder to get out at first, but he damn-near instantly turns all Gods into viable creatures. Morophon, the Boundless still needs to wait to turn them all on, and it could be several turns before any one of them come online.

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Having said everything I did in here, the truth is I am building this deck as an excuse.

I really wanted the Stargazer Secret Lair pack so I bought it. I am in love with the artwork and the idea of it just felt so natural to me.

One of the biggest hurdles I've had getting into EDH more is the mana base. The lands in any deck, as we all know, can easily double the cost of it. So, I came to terms and bought all 10 shocks and all 10 fetches. Doing so set me back $430, but now it's a hurdle I no longer face. I can now build stronger mana bases and, therefore, play the game more confidently.

So since I have the Gods from Stargazer and I have the 20 lands, I figured why not combine them into something special and I can just move the lands into whatever deck I need later on.

Dylan on Just Chatting I

4 days ago

Progenitus seems better from a brief glance

TypicalTimmy on Just Chatting I

4 days ago

Dylan, I'm torn between two:

Morophon, the Boundless and Progenitus. Both have pros and cons.

Morophon Pros:

• Quick to come out, early to mid with ramp and stones
• Reduces all Gods to generic costs only
• Is colorless; easy on mana base
• Global anthem

Cons:

• Doesn't help with devotion

Progen Pros:

• Massive devotion sink; Each God requires only 1 more symbol to become live
• Protection from everything
• Can easily win games on it's own

Cons: - Very late game play - Commander tax will be a pain in my ass - Needs the single most restrictive cost in the whole game

TypicalTimmy on Strange ideas

1 week ago

I'm in the process of buying the pieces for God Tribal.

I originally had Morophon as my Commander, but I've since changed to Progenitus for two reasons:

• 1.) He has protection from everything. Now, I plan on implementing a ton of wraths since I have Indestructible creatures. While it is true that a wrath kills Progen, it's equally true that I can play around it via auras / equipment / spells. So it gives me a 10/10 titanic force to reckon with that's nearly unstoppable.
• 2.) He helps meet high devotion costs. It works out that each God basically just needs 1 more colored mana symbol. Mono-gods ask for 5 and between themselves and Progen, I've got 3 - 4 of it. Guild Gods ask.for 7, and between them I've got 2 via the God and FOUR from Progen. So that's just 1 more.

I've bought all the shocks and fethes ($470, FML) and bought the Stargazer SL pack ($150).

So I'm mostly there. The rest is pretty cheap.

MinotaurtheMatador on Card creation challenge

2 weeks ago

Random card I got was Progenitus. Ooooh boy.

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Worldsoul of Ikoria

Legendary Enchantment

Creature spells you cast have Riot and can't be countered.

Creature spells you control have Bloodrush. Their Bloodrush cost is equal to their mana cost.

Creatures you control get +3/+3 and have first strike, vigilance, trample and reach.

Pay X life, : Return target creature with converted mana cost X from any graveyard to the battlefield under your control.

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The artwork made me think of God-like beasts rising up from beyond existence itself, hence the vast power of the card.

Make a legendary creature who cares about other legendary creatures.

MinotaurtheMatador on Godzilla/Kaiju Commander Deck

2 weeks ago

Progenitus or O-kagachi, vengeful spirit work great for King Ghidorah.

Then there is Traxos, Scourge of Kroog for Mecha Godzilla

I'd say Flickerwisp is solid for Mothra. She might not be Legendary, but you can use her perfectly for some insane value and jank.

For Anguirus, I'd hit hard with Tetzimoc, Primal Death.

Maybe Ghalta, Primal Hunger as Godzilla herself?

I'm trying to think who Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle might serve well as...

Anyway, a complete list of all monsters in the Godzilla franchise! :D

Braingamer on Devotion

3 weeks ago

Could Morophon, the Boundless be better than Progenitus?

Mj3913 on recommendations for commander

1 month ago

5c CMDR Options Show

Atogatog

Child of Alara

Cromat

General Tazri

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim

Horde of Notions

Jodah, Archmage Eternal

Karona, False God

Kenrith, the Returned King

Morophon, the Boundless

Najeela, the Blade-Blossom

Niv-Mizzet Reborn

O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami

Progenitus

Ramos, Dragon Engine

Reaper King

Scion of the Ur-Dragon

Sisay, Weatherlight Captain

Sliver Hivelord

Sliver Legion

Sliver Overlord

Sliver Queen

The First Sliver

The Ur-Dragon

If we consider the options available you can likely rule out tribal commanders like Slivers, Dragons, Atogs, Scarecrows, and Elementals. I'd include Allies but they have some good ETB effects so it could be an option. Golos and Niv Mizzit have thier own ETB effects, Korona could be blinked to avoid switching control. Kenrith has utility, politics, and reanimation to reuse ETBs. Morphron and Jodah could be combined to make creatures free. Capt. Sisay can Tutor legends, or if you just want colors Progenitus or Ramos could be there as an alternate wincon via CMDR DMG. And lastly you could use Child of Alara as a "Nuke Button".

That's my take. Would need more on what your goals are besides Blink because there's lots you can do with these options.