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1UB: Exile target creature card from a graveyard. Dimir Doppelganger becomes a copy of that card and gains this ability.
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Dimir Doppelganger Discussion
3 days ago
i love this deck and all of its purposes, i have a deck that causes people to discard/exile cards, for me to profit, and currently i run Dimir Doppelganger which MIGHT work as a cheesy little "hey remember your card that died?" let alone if they get something even better in the grave, easy swap to their better creature! if anything a nice little sideboard for gravedigger decks.
5 days ago
2 months ago
2 months ago
In my Mirko Vosk deck I ended up cutting both Dimir Doppelganger and Evil Twin, especially the Twin, is okay to copy a Commander and keep killing it, it is awesome against something like Meren of Clan Nel Toth but it's somewhat hit or miss. Maybe Body Double, since Lazav, Dimir Mastermind has Hexproof, or the other around, since Body Double gets ETB triggers, it will heavily depend on your meta. But I'd probably go with cutting a few clones into some more control, for the same reason you don't consider Sphinx's Tutelage that good in EDH: Milling doesn't scale that well, and even the faster mill decks find some walls that need being dealt with.
And keep in mind that if someone wants to stall you, the original Eldrazi Titans, Blightsteel Colossus, Serra Avatar and such keep going back into the deck, so they might find a way to stop you from milling them, and in that case you should have a few exile spells up your sleeve. Duplicant is a good one, considering you are running clones to begin with, Phyrexian Ingester is awesome and Reality Shift is an incredibly underrated card. So if this becomes a problem in your meta in the future there's some ideas on how to deal with it.
3 months ago
Rich input resplendentobscurity. Thank you so much!
I agree 100% on the graveyard hate. You can only play haymaker style with little disruption for so long right? My favorite option is Dimir Doppelganger. I might replace Propaganda with it but now you've given me the Crawlspace idea.
Diluvian Primordial seems good on paper to me but I will have to play more I think to see it's value. I am also interested to see how often I can then clone or Body Double it for the extra advantage. Maybe that's just win-more though.
Annex was intended to address a need for ramp in this deck. It helped that it steals too which is a fun subtheme. 4 mana is quite a bit but I was hoping to steal Homeward Path as it's best target and at worst slow an opponent down while ramping. It might be too cute though. It's definitely a flex spot but I think I would want to replace it with ramp.
3 months ago
Also, just looking at your description. On point 2 under interactions, For Lazav to copy it, it would have to die anyway, and if my understanding of the command zone rules are correct, your opponent would have to choose to put it in the graveyard. As when it is moving zones you can choose to put it back in the command zone instead of it going to a different zone. Just playing one of your other clones would be the way to go ;). You snipe and 'steal' their commander. But then, they could recast it and kill your clone...
Also, on point 4 on how to play, Lazav doesn't copy stuff that goes to your GY, just your opponents. And Most of your clone triggers are ETB anyway. Which, Lazav would already be on the field, meaning that if he copies a clone he would become a 0/0 a die. Because that's what the clone is without it's ETB effect.
And I forgot! Dimir Doppelganger maybe worth including as well. Get some GY hate, and versatile cloning :).
4 months ago
Grisly Spectacle is really very bad and Destroy the Evidence is even worse. I'd suggest running dedicated removal and mill separately instead. Glimpse the Unthinkable is fantastic, but if you're on a budget it is probably out of the question. For mill spells, consider Breaking / Entering and Mind Funeral. For removal, Doom Blade and Ultimate Price are pretty good, or something more expensive like Fatal Push if you can afford it. Manic Scribe would be a much more fitting creature for the deck, who combos pretty well with Phenax. If you can afford 'em, get your hands on as many Shelldock Isles as you can. That card is fantastic in a mill deck, especially one like yours with higher cost spells.
Overall Suggested Changes:
-4x Fog Bank
-2x Dream Leash
-3x Grisly Spectacle
-3x Pilfered Plans
-2x Psychic Strike
+3x Manic Scribe
+4x Mind Funeral
+3x Doom Blade
+3x Night's Whisper
4 months ago
Dimir Doppelganger as another unique Clone variant, Phenax, God of Deception as a way to get more opponents' creatures in graveyards and something to do during board stalls, Whispering Madness to destroy control players and transform Lazav, Psychic Strike as an on-theme counterspell, and Wrexial, the Risen Deep to take advantage of milled instants and sorceries.