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Creature — Human Assassin
B, T, Pay 1 life: Put a +1/+1 counter on Cruel Sadist.
2B, T, Remove X +1/+1 counters from Cruel Sadist: Cruel Sadist deals X damage to target creature.
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Cruel Sadist Discussion
2 months ago
Good day to you, good Pyrowolf,
I think you have some solid ideas. A lot of these cards seem like stand alone cards enhanced by Anafenza, which is always solid, but here are a couple cards that might go well with her +1/+1 counter love: Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit, because bolster is still solid, and Anafenza won't be weirded out at all by seeing her own ghost. Armament Corps, possibly. Avatar of the Resolute because why not? Crowned Ceratok, because all big guys like trample. Cruel Sadist, repeatable removal. Enduring Scalelord is mainly there for looks, but can be useful if your opponents lack flying. Juniper Order Ranger. Map the Wastes, for that mana ramp/bolster combo (but not a combo combo). Retribution of the Ancients, repeatable removal. Servant of the Scale, for when you want to make sweet, passionate love to counters. And I'd think he works real well with something like Sandsteppe Mastodon. Warden of the First Tree, one of my all-time favorite cards. Like Figure of Destiny, but not as creepy (or as good).
You should maybe try to utilize Anafenza's graveyard hate as well. Black loves to throw things in graveyards, and she would bounce them into exile. Standard discard effects might be nice, but try: Magister of Worth, although it would likely be condemnation if you've been exiling everything. Duress, nothing fancy, but a classic in my opinion. When you can utilize every usable part of your commander without having too much going on, you know you're heading in the right direction.
And here are some additional solid Abzan-colored cards and lands, too: Abzan Banner, it's in the name. Condemn. Command Tower, useful in any EDH deck except mono-colored. Duneblast, in theory, but it is a 7-drop :\ Beast Within, pretty slick instant-speed removal in green. Evolving Wilds. Farseek, multi-colored ramp that is unaffected by color identity. Golgari Rot Farm, solid if you're not trying to go bankrupt on the mana base. Korozda Guildmage, or similar mana sinks for all of that excessive mana you should have with how long you're enduring. Orzhov Basilica. Rampant Growth, solid, but just be looking for mana ramp. Sandsteppe Citadel, probably a good idea. Selesnya Sanctuary.
Pardon, but I think you could find some more useful/powerful cards than AEther Snap, Burst of Energy, and Burst of Strength. AEther Snap is pretty good, I feel like it'd be too counter-productive here.
Remember to keep an eye on draw cards, even stuff like Read the Bones can give you that needed bit of card advantage.
Lastly, your deck may be asking for quite a bit of time and effort to build up into a glorious threat. It would sure be a shame to see all of it go to waste when some plays Hour of Revelation or something like that. Board wipes are inevitable in EDH, but maybe try to find some remedy to that for this deck. Glaring Spotlight could maybe help a little.
I hope these are helpful, good luck!
4 months ago
Bloodspore Thrinax, Chorus of the Conclave, Citadel Siege, Cruel Sadist, Cultivator of Blades, Cytoplast Root-Kin, Death's Presence, Enduring Scalelord (and also Mirage Mirror so that you can make it go infinite), Flesh Carver, Hydra Broodmaster (or any hydra really, but especially Kalonian Hydra), Maga, Traitor to Mortals, Mikaeus, the Lunarch, Mycoloth, Kalemne's Captain, Noosegraf Mob, Skullmulcher, SpikeFeeder (goes infinite with Archangel of Thune), Splitting Slime all look good for the deck.
6 months ago
8 months ago
Oh, man, so many recent cards to consider adding to this!Dubious Challenge Protection of the Hekma Ajani's Aid Midnight Oil Fireforger's Puzzleknot Sequestered Stash Geist-Fueled Scarecrow Goldnight Castigator Devils' Playground Corrupted Grafstone Mercurial Pretender Aggressive Mining Cruel Sadist Jace, the Living Guildpact Wall of Limbs Goblin Kaboomist
9 months ago
robgould339, I do like the focus now. I will say that Griselbrand and Ob Nixilis Reignited might be a little overkill. The lifelink on Griselbrand does have strong synergy with cards like Prey Upon, but at 8 mana, it may be difficult to even cast him at all. Without the ability to cast him almost for free, as in reanimator, it becomes much more likely that you won't have enough life left to abuse his ability. As for Ob Nixilis Reignited, I find that I usually end up using him for his -3 ability. Since this deck is already pretty great at destroying creatures, I imagine that will narrow his use down to just drawing an extra card every turn. And at that point, I'd probably just use Bloodgift Demon. I suppose it is possible that if you can manage to stay ahead on the board, you just might be able to pull off his ultimate (which is something I achieve very rarely in my dimir control deck). If that works out, he certainly can be a viable win condition.
As for Quietus Spike + Cruel Sadist, I think it's a nice combo. The question is whether or not you'll draw them in conjunction enough to justify their inclusion. Compare it to Vampire Nighthawk + Prey Upon. The nighthawk is still good, even when you don't have a prey upon to go with it, and the prey upon is still good if you don't have exactly nighthawk to go with it. Here, Quietus Spike and Cruel Sadist become a lot worse if they aren't paired with each other. If you go with it, I'd at least consider swapping Quietus Spike to Basilisk Collar, seeing as it is cheaper and that lifelink is more likely to come into effect than the life halving.
I was also doing some searches and came across Gnarlwood Dryad, Narnam Renegade, and Wasteland Viper. Seems like any of these could be an objectively better Sedge Scorpion, so that's cool. The viper in particular increases the value of any non-deathtouch creatures in the deck.
9 months ago
9 months ago
You know you can have up to 4 copies of one card in a deck excluding basic lands right? Think about adding in some one cards that only cost one mana such as Ruthless Ripper or Cruel Sadist. I would also take out Scion of Ugin and add a full playset (4 copies of) Dragon Tempest. As far as legality goes, you can switch the format to Modern, a format where your deck will be fully legal. Your land ratio looks a bit high at 27, I would think about moving down to 24 lands and using some dual lands such as Temple of Malice and Akoum Refuge. You could do shock lands such as Blood Crypt, but those are more expensive and it seems like you're going for a more budget deck.
Good luck, I hope my suggestions help!
9 months ago
Atraxa, Praetors' Voice is an amazing commander! Here is an idea for creature removal based on +1/+1 counters: Retribution of the Ancients. It allows you to take excess counters and kill creatures. Also, Cruel Sadist does basically the same thing, except it's a creature. Hope this helps!