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Target opponent loses 5 life unless that player discards two cards or sacrifices a creature or planeswalker. Repeat this process once.
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Remorseless Punishment Discussion
1 month ago
You're off to a decent start, I'd say. Your curve looks good, though you're mana base is a bit weak at the moment (you should be running about 40 land for consistency). Some commentary as I took notes:
Heliod, God of the Sun doesn't seem to fit with the overall theme of the deck. You'd be better off with a card that will give you lifelink creatures or something, to help offset the life-loss from your various effects. Whip of Erebos would be my pick for this deck.
Blood Tribute is going to want more vampires, which are kind of slim in your deck at the moment.
Brainspoil is...poor removal. I would remove it. Killing Wave, on the other hand, is a good choice for sweep, and Remorseless Punishment and Temporal Extortion are nice. I like Near-Death Experience as an alternate win-con, but Path of Bravery is going to hamper that, especially since you don't appear to have super-consistent lifegain.
You have...two? infect cards. I would remove them since infect is really an alternate win-con that you aren't geared toward. Diseased Vermin might make for an alternate rat if you must have a rat, especially if you can give it evasion somehow, and it works with lifelink. It's not a strong pick for the deck, though.
Seekers' Squire doesn't really seem to fit any of your themes.
Ones that work somewhat with the life drain: Defiant Bloodlord, Retreat to Hagra, Thrull Parasite, Bontu's Monument, Kambal, Consul of Allocation, Underworld Coinsmith (this would be a reason to keep Heliod, actually), Zulaport Cutthroat, and maybe Vizkopa Confessor
Others that pay life or give you life somehow: Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Chainer, Dementia Master, Cruel Sadist, Phyrexian Reclamation, Vona, Butcher of Magan, and Elenda, the Dusk Rose (for working with your creatures dying).
All of this, of course, is subject to what you're willing to buy, and you don't have to listen to anything I say. It's your deck, after all.
3 months ago
Any particular reason to make this Legacy instead of Modern? Idk a whole lot about Legacy but I feel more janky, slow decks like this one will get crushed. Switching to Modern loses Dark Ritual, Chain Lightning, and part of your manabase, but the mana should be pretty consistent since your 2 colors and have plenty of duals. Also, Dark Ritual could be swapped for the less powerful rituals such as Simian Spirit Guide or Pyretic Ritual without lowering the power level dramatically and bringing it to a format where it will likely be able to win more games.
10 months ago
Ghost Quarter is around 1 or 2 dollars. Considering you have some cards around 4-5 dollars in your list, I assumed that would be budget friendly. I suppose if you meant a total budget of x amount of dollars regardless of what individual cards cost, then i suppose it can all add up. Also, I forgot about Night's Whisper for card draw and Vampire Nighthawk and Desecration Demon. Normally these won't see much modern play, but as budget options, they are more than good enough.
I also don't like cards like Torment of Hailfire, Remorseless Punishment, or Sword-Point Diplomacy. They cost too much mana for modern, considering they give your opponent the choice of what to discard or sacrifice etc. They're true home is in a good mono-black commander/edh deck.
I don't like Temporal Extortion either for mana cost reason. Unless you're next turn you take with it wins you the game, it might not necessarily do much for all that mana. (Also, feels bad to get it countered by Mana Leak, Remand, or Cryptic Command which are many modern control decks.
I also don't know how I forgot about Hero's Downfall, I'd run two of those regardless of whether they end up in the sideboard or the main. As for big finishers, in addition to everything I've mentioned up to this point, you could run Tombstalker as a one-off.
10 months ago
bLaZiNgShArK My opinion is you can swap them for the 3 Dark Petitions and maybe the pact, which can be moved to sideboard. However take into consideration that Sword-Point Diplomacy is generally considered an aggro card as in running low land count. With 26 swamps this can easily be pay 3 mana: your opponent loses 3 life, draw 2 swamps and exile the other card. Still if Torment of Hailfire or Remorseless Punishment have the opponent low enough and you high-roll it (reveal 3 non-lands) it can easily be either GG (revealed say another torment) or 3 mana draw 3 cards. Playtesting will show how well it fits in the deck I suppose, but you definitely should try it. :)
1 year ago
Love it. The sideboard is good for that pesky red deck running around, and you have a good target for a free spell off Wildfire Eternal I was tinkering with Remorseless Punishment but yours is way better. If I may, drop it to 3 Wildfire Eternal and drop all the Vizier of Many Faces for 4 Enigma Drake. The drake will always be at a high power in your deck, and the vizier is useless on an empty board, or a board with a single creature if that creature gets killed when you cast. I realize that won't be the case often, but the drake is probably stronger a higher portion of the time. I say go to 3 wildfire because if you happen to be out of cards his ability is meh, and at 4 mana he is lackluster without a free cast. Also with the meta right now, everyone is running Chandra's Defeat and he is easily removed as a result. Merely my opinion, still upvoting because so many decks I see like this have no plan for that red deck and you have it in spades. Kudos
1 year ago
1 year ago
It's been a while since I've checked in and WOW! Thank you so much for all the feedback and upvotes! It really means a lot to me that it has inspired so many people to make similar decks =D
So a quick update. I haven't been keeping up to date with my decks and replies because unfortunately my most fun and entertaining decks were stolen, including this one T.T After that, I couldn't bring myself to start over, so I liquidated my remaining collection and ended my MTG journey. I was honestly thinking of doing this before some of my decks were stolen, but this would have been the deck to keep no matter what.
I might remake this deck at some point when I have extra funds just to have a fun deck whenever I run into another player, but for now I'll take a back seat.
As for this deck and any edits moving forward. I'll probably leave it as is and put any new cards I feel fit the theme into the "Maybeboard". I know some suggestion might make a better deck overall, but since I don't have this deck anymore, I'm going to have this deck as a template for creative minds to improve on =)
I don't think Hymn to Tourach quite hits the theme for me. While the effect is random, the opponent never gets a choice when playing this in any situation. Though this is only my opinion. Please don't hesitate to add it into your own variation =)
@Illusificate - You may recommend any card you feel meets the theme of this deck. If I agree, I'll definitely add it in the maybeboard options =)
1 year ago
I like this deck so far, your opponents might not though, with all the sac effects. Heh.
I would be mostly worried about spells like Vandalblast. Maybe the occasional Artificer's Hex. I'd recommend Dash Hopes, Remorseless Punishment, and Scour from Existence for artifact and enchantment removal.