Remorseless Punishment

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Hero Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Heirloom Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Frontier Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Oath of the Gatewatch (OGW) Rare

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Remorseless Punishment

Sorcery

Target opponent loses 5 life unless that player discards two cards or sacrifices a creature or planeswalker. Repeat this process once.

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Remorseless Punishment Discussion

jjman312 on Kambal, Consul of Allocating Gains

2 months ago

ballesta25

Wonderful tips, thank you!

Exquisite Blood is indeed on my list for pickup at some point, but I appreciate you pointing it out.

Words of Worship is a card I was unaware of, and will be picking it up to include it and give it a try.

As for cards currently in my collection; Martial Coup, Phyrexian Reclamation, and Razaketh, the Foulblooded will likely find spots now.

I will be looking to snag a few of the others listed I do not currently own.

Glad to hear you feel that way in regards to Blood Tithe and Remorseless Punishment. They felt like underwhelming additions, even if they were (sort of) in theme.

ballesta25 on Kambal, Consul of Allocating Gains

2 months ago

Exquisite Blood is an infinite combo with several of the cards in your deck (Sanguine Bond, Cliffhaven Vampire, ...). It's kinda expensive, but even if you don't want to pick up a copy, you should know about it so you know why if everyone tries to destroy your Sanguine Bond.

Words of Worship is a rather bizarre old card (there's a whole cycle) that lets you pay {1} to gain 5 life instead of drawing a card. In most circumstances, that's a bad trade, even in a dedicated life-gain deck, but it lets you survive if you've been milled out, and sometimes you just need one more lifegain trigger. It's main use is to be super fun with things like Well of Lost Dreams ("Instead of drawing this card, I'll gain life and also draw cards!") Sadly, you don't have blue in your color identity, so you can't play Drogskol Reaver, but for redundant copies of that effect, you do get Dawn of Hope once Guilds of Ravnica releases and even Lich's Mastery if you're crazy enough. (I don't recommend Lich's Mastery in EDH - Cyclonic Rift or Bane of Progress type effects are too common.)

You may want more token produces for your soul sisters. Martial Coup seems like a good include because you can use it to make tokens or as a board wipe.

This deck could use some more ways to spend life for value. Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip, Phyrexian Reclamation, Tymna the Weaver, Vona, Butcher of Magan, Chainer, Dementia Master Razaketh, the Foulblooded, and Necropotence all let you trade life for other resources and are mostly fairly budget. I would recommend including a few effects of that sort.

Blood Tithe and Remorseless Punishment seem low-impact in Commander: everyone starts with a lot of life so hitting everyone for 3 or one player for 10 in a non-repeatable way doesn't accomplish that much.

Kogarashi on lose life to win

4 months ago

You're off to a decent start, I'd say. Your curve looks good, though you're mana base is a bit weak at the moment (you should be running about 40 land for consistency). Some commentary as I took notes:

Heliod, God of the Sun doesn't seem to fit with the overall theme of the deck. You'd be better off with a card that will give you lifelink creatures or something, to help offset the life-loss from your various effects. Whip of Erebos would be my pick for this deck.

Blood Tribute is going to want more vampires, which are kind of slim in your deck at the moment.

Brainspoil is...poor removal. I would remove it. Killing Wave, on the other hand, is a good choice for sweep, and Remorseless Punishment and Temporal Extortion are nice. I like Near-Death Experience as an alternate win-con, but Path of Bravery is going to hamper that, especially since you don't appear to have super-consistent lifegain.

You have...two? infect cards. I would remove them since infect is really an alternate win-con that you aren't geared toward. Diseased Vermin might make for an alternate rat if you must have a rat, especially if you can give it evasion somehow, and it works with lifelink. It's not a strong pick for the deck, though.

Knight-Captain of Eos wants more soldiers. There are quite a few vampire soldiers, and some of them would work well in this deck. Vicious Conquistador is one that works with your theme.

Seekers' Squire doesn't really seem to fit any of your themes.

Wall of Shards short-circuits your life-drain by giving increasingly large amounts of life to opponents. You don't need it. I would also skip the Hyena Umbra and Hatred.

As for further suggestions, things with Extort are good. There's always the Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond combo, which can also use Vizkopa Guildmage in place of Sanguine Bond.

Other suggestions:

Ones that work somewhat with the life drain: Defiant Bloodlord, Retreat to Hagra, Thrull Parasite, Bontu's Monument, Kambal, Consul of Allocation, Underworld Coinsmith (this would be a reason to keep Heliod, actually), Zulaport Cutthroat, and maybe Vizkopa Confessor

Others that pay life or give you life somehow: Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip, Chainer, Dementia Master, Cruel Sadist, Phyrexian Reclamation, Vona, Butcher of Magan, and Elenda, the Dusk Rose (for working with your creatures dying).

All of this, of course, is subject to what you're willing to buy, and you don't have to listen to anything I say. It's your deck, after all.

RazortoothMtg on Choose Your Fate

5 months ago

Remorseless Punishment and Torment of Hailfire are both big "punisher" effects - making your opponents choose. Also Torment of Scarabs and Torment of Venom, although they're both pretty lackluster.

Any particular reason to make this Legacy instead of Modern? Idk a whole lot about Legacy but I feel more janky, slow decks like this one will get crushed. Switching to Modern loses Dark Ritual, Chain Lightning, and part of your manabase, but the mana should be pretty consistent since your 2 colors and have plenty of duals. Also, Dark Ritual could be swapped for the less powerful rituals such as Simian Spirit Guide or Pyretic Ritual without lowering the power level dramatically and bringing it to a format where it will likely be able to win more games.

Ballzanya on

1 year ago

Ghost Quarter is around 1 or 2 dollars. Considering you have some cards around 4-5 dollars in your list, I assumed that would be budget friendly. I suppose if you meant a total budget of x amount of dollars regardless of what individual cards cost, then i suppose it can all add up. Also, I forgot about Night's Whisper for card draw and Vampire Nighthawk and Desecration Demon. Normally these won't see much modern play, but as budget options, they are more than good enough.

I also don't like cards like Torment of Hailfire, Remorseless Punishment, or Sword-Point Diplomacy. They cost too much mana for modern, considering they give your opponent the choice of what to discard or sacrifice etc. They're true home is in a good mono-black commander/edh deck.

I don't like Temporal Extortion either for mana cost reason. Unless you're next turn you take with it wins you the game, it might not necessarily do much for all that mana. (Also, feels bad to get it countered by Mana Leak, Remand, or Cryptic Command which are many modern control decks.

I also don't know how I forgot about Hero's Downfall, I'd run two of those regardless of whether they end up in the sideboard or the main. As for big finishers, in addition to everything I've mentioned up to this point, you could run Tombstalker as a one-off.

Madcookie on

1 year ago

bLaZiNgShArK My opinion is you can swap them for the 3 Dark Petitions and maybe the pact, which can be moved to sideboard. However take into consideration that Sword-Point Diplomacy is generally considered an aggro card as in running low land count. With 26 swamps this can easily be pay 3 mana: your opponent loses 3 life, draw 2 swamps and exile the other card. Still if Torment of Hailfire or Remorseless Punishment have the opponent low enough and you high-roll it (reveal 3 non-lands) it can easily be either GG (revealed say another torment) or 3 mana draw 3 cards. Playtesting will show how well it fits in the deck I suppose, but you definitely should try it. :)

Hyperalgialysis on Izzet Mid-Range Burn

1 year ago

Love it. The sideboard is good for that pesky red deck running around, and you have a good target for a free spell off Wildfire Eternal I was tinkering with Remorseless Punishment but yours is way better. If I may, drop it to 3 Wildfire Eternal and drop all the Vizier of Many Faces for 4 Enigma Drake. The drake will always be at a high power in your deck, and the vizier is useless on an empty board, or a board with a single creature if that creature gets killed when you cast. I realize that won't be the case often, but the drake is probably stronger a higher portion of the time. I say go to 3 wildfire because if you happen to be out of cards his ability is meh, and at 4 mana he is lackluster without a free cast. Also with the meta right now, everyone is running Chandra's Defeat and he is easily removed as a result. Merely my opinion, still upvoting because so many decks I see like this have no plan for that red deck and you have it in spades. Kudos

Hyperalgialysis on The scarab god 2.0

1 year ago

Until rotation Remorseless Punishment is pretty awesome for free. So is Baral's Expertise into another Wildfire Eternal

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