Remorseless Punishment

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Remorseless Punishment

Sorcery

Target opponent loses 5 life unless that player discards two cards or sacrifices a creature or planeswalker. Repeat this process once.

cyborgcat on 101% Mono Black Burn

3 years ago

maybe remove Remorseless Punishment and Mental Agony for 4 copies of Dash Hopes. However, I'd have to playtest to really know how many you Dash Hopes you should add.

trnx14 on Thirsty Vampires

5 years ago

Forgot to add this in my earlier comment, but I think Sword-Point Diplomacy and Remorseless Punishment are really fun cards to play around with.

jjman312 on Kambal, Consul of Allocating Gains

5 years ago

ballesta25

Wonderful tips, thank you!

Exquisite Blood is indeed on my list for pickup at some point, but I appreciate you pointing it out.

Words of Worship is a card I was unaware of, and will be picking it up to include it and give it a try.

As for cards currently in my collection; Martial Coup, Phyrexian Reclamation, and Razaketh, the Foulblooded will likely find spots now.

I will be looking to snag a few of the others listed I do not currently own.

Glad to hear you feel that way in regards to Blood Tithe and Remorseless Punishment. They felt like underwhelming additions, even if they were (sort of) in theme.

ballesta25 on Kambal, Consul of Allocating Gains

5 years ago

Exquisite Blood is an infinite combo with several of the cards in your deck (Sanguine Bond, Cliffhaven Vampire, ...). It's kinda expensive, but even if you don't want to pick up a copy, you should know about it so you know why if everyone tries to destroy your Sanguine Bond.

Words of Worship is a rather bizarre old card (there's a whole cycle) that lets you pay {1} to gain 5 life instead of drawing a card. In most circumstances, that's a bad trade, even in a dedicated life-gain deck, but it lets you survive if you've been milled out, and sometimes you just need one more lifegain trigger. It's main use is to be super fun with things like Well of Lost Dreams ("Instead of drawing this card, I'll gain life and also draw cards!") Sadly, you don't have blue in your color identity, so you can't play Drogskol Reaver, but for redundant copies of that effect, you do get Dawn of Hope once Guilds of Ravnica releases and even Lich's Mastery if you're crazy enough. (I don't recommend Lich's Mastery in EDH - Cyclonic Rift or Bane of Progress type effects are too common.)

You may want more token produces for your soul sisters. Martial Coup seems like a good include because you can use it to make tokens or as a board wipe.

This deck could use some more ways to spend life for value. Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip, Phyrexian Reclamation, Tymna the Weaver, Vona, Butcher of Magan, Chainer, Dementia Master Razaketh, the Foulblooded, and Necropotence all let you trade life for other resources and are mostly fairly budget. I would recommend including a few effects of that sort.

Blood Tithe and Remorseless Punishment seem low-impact in Commander: everyone starts with a lot of life so hitting everyone for 3 or one player for 10 in a non-repeatable way doesn't accomplish that much.

Kogarashi on lose life to win

5 years ago

You're off to a decent start, I'd say. Your curve looks good, though you're mana base is a bit weak at the moment (you should be running about 40 land for consistency). Some commentary as I took notes:

Heliod, God of the Sun doesn't seem to fit with the overall theme of the deck. You'd be better off with a card that will give you lifelink creatures or something, to help offset the life-loss from your various effects. Whip of Erebos would be my pick for this deck.

Blood Tribute is going to want more vampires, which are kind of slim in your deck at the moment.

Brainspoil is...poor removal. I would remove it. Killing Wave , on the other hand, is a good choice for sweep, and Remorseless Punishment and Temporal Extortion are nice. I like Near-Death Experience as an alternate win-con, but Path of Bravery is going to hamper that, especially since you don't appear to have super-consistent lifegain.

You have...two? infect cards. I would remove them since infect is really an alternate win-con that you aren't geared toward. Diseased Vermin might make for an alternate rat if you must have a rat, especially if you can give it evasion somehow, and it works with lifelink. It's not a strong pick for the deck, though.

Knight-Captain of Eos wants more soldiers. There are quite a few vampire soldiers, and some of them would work well in this deck. Vicious Conquistador is one that works with your theme.

Seekers' Squire doesn't really seem to fit any of your themes.

Wall of Shards short-circuits your life-drain by giving increasingly large amounts of life to opponents. You don't need it. I would also skip the Hyena Umbra and Hatred .

As for further suggestions, things with Extort are good. There's always the Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond combo, which can also use Vizkopa Guildmage in place of Sanguine Bond.

Other suggestions:

Ones that work somewhat with the life drain: Defiant Bloodlord , Retreat to Hagra , Thrull Parasite , Bontu's Monument , Kambal, Consul of Allocation , Underworld Coinsmith (this would be a reason to keep Heliod, actually), Zulaport Cutthroat , and maybe Vizkopa Confessor

Others that pay life or give you life somehow: Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip, Chainer, Dementia Master , Cruel Sadist , Phyrexian Reclamation , Vona, Butcher of Magan , and Elenda, the Dusk Rose (for working with your creatures dying).

All of this, of course, is subject to what you're willing to buy, and you don't have to listen to anything I say. It's your deck, after all.

RazortoothMtg on Choose Your Fate

5 years ago

Remorseless Punishment and Torment of Hailfire are both big "punisher" effects - making your opponents choose. Also Torment of Scarabs and Torment of Venom, although they're both pretty lackluster.

Any particular reason to make this Legacy instead of Modern? Idk a whole lot about Legacy but I feel more janky, slow decks like this one will get crushed. Switching to Modern loses Dark Ritual, Chain Lightning, and part of your manabase, but the mana should be pretty consistent since your 2 colors and have plenty of duals. Also, Dark Ritual could be swapped for the less powerful rituals such as Simian Spirit Guide or Pyretic Ritual without lowering the power level dramatically and bringing it to a format where it will likely be able to win more games.

Ballzanya on

6 years ago

Ghost Quarter is around 1 or 2 dollars. Considering you have some cards around 4-5 dollars in your list, I assumed that would be budget friendly. I suppose if you meant a total budget of x amount of dollars regardless of what individual cards cost, then i suppose it can all add up. Also, I forgot about Night's Whisper for card draw and Vampire Nighthawk and Desecration Demon. Normally these won't see much modern play, but as budget options, they are more than good enough.

I also don't like cards like Torment of Hailfire, Remorseless Punishment, or Sword-Point Diplomacy. They cost too much mana for modern, considering they give your opponent the choice of what to discard or sacrifice etc. They're true home is in a good mono-black commander/edh deck.

I don't like Temporal Extortion either for mana cost reason. Unless you're next turn you take with it wins you the game, it might not necessarily do much for all that mana. (Also, feels bad to get it countered by Mana Leak, Remand, or Cryptic Command which are many modern control decks.

I also don't know how I forgot about Hero's Downfall, I'd run two of those regardless of whether they end up in the sideboard or the main. As for big finishers, in addition to everything I've mentioned up to this point, you could run Tombstalker as a one-off.

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