Put a -1/-1 counter on target creature, then proliferate.
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|Mystery Booster (MYS1)||Common|
|Modern Masters 2015 Edition (MM2)||Common|
|New Phyrexia (NPH)||Common|
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Grim Affliction Discussion
3 months ago
IzmAYAYA: Ammit Eternal, Soul Snuffers, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, Black Sun's Zenith, and Grim Affliction are my biggest token producers. I tend to tutor for them, or draw aggressively until I find them.
3 months ago
Neat deck, like the idea. I think Treachery is an underrated card for the theme.
Also, you have a ton of boardwipe, so maybe go with counters rather than targeted removal? Mana Leak is a good one for multicolor, and Spell Pierce is also handy, but then there's always Force of Negation, Force of Will and Mana Drain, if you have the money for them.
Next, with all the planeswalkers in here, some proliferate might be helpful. Fuel for the Cause, to continue the counter trend, but also Grim Affliction, Volt Charge and Flux Channeler are good options.
And as a personal preference, I'd say to also look at Mindslaver. Not an incredibly popular card, but one I enjoy.
Finally, I will suggest increasing the lands by a couple, but only really because everyone else always tells me to do that. I've been running 35 lands in all of my EDH decks and find that to be a good ratio, but a lot of the competitive decks I see posted on here run around 36 or 37. I only say it because you have a high mana curve, even given all the rocks. A couple fetch lands like Polluted Delta and Bloodstained Mire would probably do the trick, especially if you could get ahold of Blood Crypt, Watery Grave and Steam Vents.
Woah, sorry this comment is so long, haha...
5 months ago
On a side note, it has always really bugged me that Martial Coup makes Soldier tokens, but not Human Soldier tokens. If it did, it would have been my number one suggestion. But it doesn't, and that stinks.
Anyway, ok, that's all I got.
6 months ago
Wow thanks for all the suggestions.
Blowfly Infestation I considered, however I’m not trying to kill creatures in this deck, I am very familiar with it as I run it in my Happatra deck.
Corrupted Resolve I like it, I’ll consider, however which counterspell would you cut to add in?
Cruel Sadist just puts counters on itself, and I want to put them on other things.
Rishkar, Peema Renegade I had in originally but instead added in cryptolith rite, it’s harder to remove and let’s me use all creature not just ones with counters on.
Crumbling Ashes is another tricky one, ideally I don’t want to kill the creatures I’m putting counters on, because I want to copy them with Volrath. Also, it is not a may trigger so I would have to kill something, and if it was only my creatures with a counter on I’m blowing up my own stuff.
Deepglow Skate once again, don’t need lots of counters on creatures, just one.
Grim Affliction I did consider but again, proliferate isn’t necessary in the build and I can put a counter on something for cheaper.
The cards in the fun suggestions I also looked at, but I just want to play around with putting counters on other creatures. That being said, I had not seen Musician that is bloody brilliant and is going straight in the list!!
6 months ago
Really fun build, and deliciously quirky!
A few serious card suggestions:
And a few fun card suggestions:
7 months ago
IzmAYAYA: In order --
1A and B) No, unfortunately you can only put 5 counters on a 5/5 -- once it's dead you can't keep piling -1 counters on it. This kind of thing is actually why, to go properly 'infinite', you need something that gives your own creatures additional toughness (so you always have something to put the -1 counters onto).
There is a very minor exception to this, when using an effect like Grim Affliction: the proliferate on that spell can pull a creature's toughness below zero, because the "dies from zero toughness" state based action isn't checked until the spell finishes resolving. But before you ask, no, Yawgmoth's proliferate doesn't work the same way.
1C and D) Basically, what you want to do is execute the loop by having TWO tokens on the battlefield. You start the loop by sacrificing one token, they cast removal, and with their removal still on the stack you start another iteration of the combo using the second token. This works no matter which creature they target.
2A) For the same reason as 1A, you can't target anything an infinite number of times with Yawgmoth unfortunately. You only get to place as many -1 counters as there are points of toughness. This is why things like Ivy Lane Denizen are good (your creatures always "gain" a toughness to offset the one they lost), or effects like Spidersilk Armor (you can "bounce" the counters between two snakes, and never run out of things to target).
3) While you can't execute Yawgmoth infinite times targeting the same thing, you CAN use him to screw with combat math pretty well -- you can sacrifice some of the blocked creatures to shrink blocking creatures, and make them vulnerable to lethal damage. Still, this isn't usually relevant, since Yawgmoth immediately wins the game maybe 90% of the time he hits battlefield in this deck.
8 months ago
Endrek could fit in too, I’m currently thinking of what to cut as there’s a few in the maybe board I want to add in too haha.
Thanks for the upvote
8 months ago
if you run Attrition with cards that generate you tokens to sac likeEndrek Sahr, Master Breederit would feed into your death triggers as well as fuel Yawgmoth's counter ability. imo you should strongly consider proliferate with things like Contagion Clasp, Karn's Bastion, Grim Affliction to multiply your -1/-1 counters.