Creature — Elemental
, Return Grinning Ignus to its owner's hand: Gain . Activate this ability only at any time you could cast a sorcery.
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Grinning Ignus Discussion
1 month ago
Recently while I was playing on MTG Arena I came across Grinning Ignus and it seemed that this could be a good combo piece. I was sitting there thinking how I could make this infinite, and I remembered Birgi, God of Storytelling Flip was also in standard. Together these two create infinite ETB and infinite LTB. Now all I had to do was add Terror of the Peaks to win. In historic you have more options like Corpse Knight and Grapeshot that cost much less. I made a deck around this combo here. I have never seen this played in MTG Arena at all. Has everyone missed it because it seems somewhat decent?
3 months ago
I would cut all two mana pump spells and go to 4x manamorphose.
I think it's also too threat light; I'd go up on Soul scar mage and, if you want to keep the combo aspect, consider Empty the Warrens over grapeshot since it'll give you more board presence when if it's not enough to OTK.
Birgi also combos with Grinning Ignus if you want to go harder on combo with ETB triggers (^:
4 months ago
Frd123, these are solid recommendations. I will have to try out Karn, TBH I hadn't considered how his downtick got stuff back from exile. I have spun into Sentinel Tower or Aetherflux Reservoir with only 1 or 2 mana left and lost them permanently. Additionally, my list had evolved in a grindy midrange storm build. I've added some light stax pieces back in and Karn punishes those greedy mana bases which can be back breaking especially paired with the plethora of Pyroclasm -like cards in the list which keep the board clear of dorks. (I have been working on revising my primer but I was waiting until Strixhaven finished before completing)
For the cost reducers, Mystic Forge has floating around on the periphery of my mind but I could never just find the slot. Ever since Birgi, God of Storytelling Flip released, I have felt comfortable with the current list of cost-reducers. Now with Birgi, I have even toyed with running the Grinning Ignus combo into a big X spell, Flux, or a lethal Grapeshot.
4 months ago
You should also include Crown of Flames . It works a lot like Grinning Ignus , however, it can give infinite mana/casts with Cloudstone Curio and can even give you a infinite ping combo with Firebrand Archer because it's a non-creature spell.
4 months ago
Daedalus19876, thanks for the feedback, your list was also one of the ones that inspired me to actually build Vadrok. I did see Malignus in a few lists buuut in my playgroup I feel he’d be removed instantly. IMO I feel Dream Trawler covers the damage output of Malignus and protection of Stormsurge Kraken .
Frantic Search : This one is already in the list, def a amazing card
Curfew : You make a compelling argument I’ll be swapping this in
Deflecting Swat : I did want to include this originally, but I can see where it would be better in some cases over a counter so I’ll add this in
Grinning Ignus : Also a card I wanted to include, idk what it is but [[rootha, Mecurial artist] is just cool, buuut yeah, I do agree]] Ignus would see better plays
Mystic Reflection : Wait what?!? How do you do that? I’m guessing mutate Vadrok onto Ignus -> mystical reflection on the pile -> creature -> bounce pile to hand so no sac -> mutate Vadrok on copy, trigger, cast reflection targeting pile -> cast Ignus and repeat??? Also I did see in your list how you can use it for removal so I’ll find a spot for it
Hedron Crab and Brain Freeze : the only reason I didn’t add these was because I’m trying to build my decks winconless, like the loops and infinite combos in the deck consist of cards that would never be dead in hand, I just feel these two would be bad draws if I’m not going to combo
This definitely helped, thanks for the feedback!
4 months ago
This reminds me of my first draft of Vadrok! I built him as voltron at first -- I will say that Stormsurge Kraken is an amazing mutate host if you're going for that Voltron win. Malignus , too, but that's pretty obvious ;)
I'd highly recommend Frantic Search -- it's an amazing feeling to cast it off of Vadrok and regain most of your mana, and it goes great with High Tide and/or Underworld Breach. I really like Curfew over Run Away Together , since Run Away Together doesn't work in the infinite Dockside loops (because your opponents eventually run out of creatures). If you're going for the protective spells, Deflecting Swat is an all-star. I'm not a fan of Arcane Denial , you could swap one of these for it.
I'd also recommend Grinning Ignus over Rootha, just because you can pull off some silly loops with it. Doubly so with Mystic Reflection -- because Reflection copies the whole pile, you can use Reflection + Ignus + Vadrok to staple like 20 copies of Vadrok's ability onto the same creature haha.
Finally, careful with that infinite Dack Fayden line: your opponents will draw into all their deck's interaction. So unless you've cast Silence or Grand Abolisher beforehand, you can get blown out. When feasible, I prefer to infinitely recast Reality Shift to deck my opponents, with a similar loop :) Oh, and Hedron Crab and Brain Freeze are all-stars.
Hope this helps! :D It's great to see more Vadrok players running around...
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7 months ago
If you choose red you make Grinning Ignus infinite casts or infinite mana when recast.
I can't think of much else for now!
Edit: Palinchron also ofc!