Etherwrought Page

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Etherwrought Page

Artifact

At the beginning of your upkeep, choose one — You gain 2 life; or look at the top card of your library, then you may put that card into your graveyard; or each opponent loses 1 life.

Archsage1693 on Subjective Reality, Remastered

5 years ago

Oh nice, good idea Megalomania. When I revisit the list, I'll seriously consider that for flickery goodness. (It's probably a good replacement for Etherwrought Page to be honest. That card does very little despite looking like it does a lot.)

zerowner on

5 years ago

Oh, and how could I forget! You're playing Esper with a good amount of enchantments, so Zur the Enchanter can provide you with good value if you even get one attack off with him. And if you're looking for a decent way to filter through the top of your deck (like what I think Etherwrought Page was for), Thassa, God of the Sea is great for that due to her indestructibility.

zerowner on

5 years ago

I wrote a ton and then realized I should probably ask what decks your playgroup plays, because idk if I should be recommending graveyard hate when your opponents might not utilize their graves. Another example would be a green deck ramping really fast, in which case I would maybe recommend something like Magus of the Balance or land destruction like Armageddon to screw over the ramp that they've focused on early in the game.

Maybe I'm not getting something here, but what is Transcendence doing here? How does it pull its weight in any way? If its just to stall when you get to critically low health, why not Resolute Archangel instead?

Etherwrought Page looks incredibly slow, especially for 4 mana. The life gain is super small, the damage is even smaller, and if you're using it for the filter ability, go with Search for Azcanta  Flip instead.

Necromancer's Covenant is decent lifegain + it hates a graveyard for you.

No Solemn Simulacrum? This deck probably needs all the ramp it can get.

Identity Crisis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reap Intellect.

Darksteel Forge seems weird here, even if it does keep your commander alive (and I guess your mana rocks too, but I wouldn't deem those as needing protection at the point when you've got 9 mana that you can drop on the forge). I think I'd go with a protection equipment, like Darksteel Plate, and if not that then Lightning Greaves or Swiftfoot Boots.

No Austere Command? Its like Merciless Eviction but probably better.

I think I'd go Words of Waste over Words of Wind. Wind is just going to let them return a good ETB permanent to their hand, or a land if the game has gone late enough. Can't imagine it'll ever force something like a threatening creature or Planeswalker back to the hand. Not sure if I'd actually even recommend Words of Waste with your draw capabilities in this deck, but I'd definitely say get rid of Words of Wind.

Aura of Silence is solid all around. Its a nightmare for enchant/artifact decks, and otherwise its 3 mana sorcery speed to destroy an artifact/enchantment already on the field that can be cast preemptively.

Binding Grasp seems weird. Not sure what is good about it over something like Bribery or Acquire, and perhaps even Sower of Temptation in some ways (depends on how much removal that opponent runs, I suppose).

Praetor's Grasp seems really slow, and if you're looking to just rob them of a card, Sadistic Sacrament is nuts for that (especially for removing combos!). Life's Finale also doubles as a board wipe if that was your goal. If you really wanted to play the card yourself instead, then just go with Bribery, or put that good card that they have in your deck too, because paying 3 more mana for nearly any card seems S L O W.

Speaking of board wipes, your deck is pretty low on them. You've got single target removal like Darksteel Mutation but if you're up against 3 people, how much is that gonna help? I think I'd rather pay the 2 more mana for Wrath of God and all of its cousins.

Pulse of the Dross, how often does that come in handy? They're gonna reveal the 3 least important cards in their hand, and with such a slow deck I imagine you'll almost always have more cards in hand than most players.

Spellseeker is just good imo, I'd recommend it to nearly anyone running blue.

Depending on the decks you play against, Containment Priest can be an even better counterspell (against reanimation) that not only disrupts your opponents but also offers you a chump blocker.

You also don't seem to have a win-con, as I see the previous commenter mentioned, but perhaps your win-con could just be considered disrupting your opponents so much with your deck + your commander's ability that you drain them of all of their value, in which case you definitely need more protection for your commander than the Darksteel Forge and counterspells you're running.

AwesomeOctopus on

5 years ago

Ok to start off, you can't run Bringer of the Blue Dawn or Bringer of the Black Dawn because of color identity, which considers mana symbols anywhere on rules text, not just casting cost.

I think you did a pretty good job for a first deck.

You seem to be running a combination of really good cards and out of place shitty cards. Unless there is some combo or synergy you have with them that I'm missing I think the following cards are garbage and should be cut:

Colfenor's Plans Binding Grasp Transcendence Etherwrought Page Celestial Dawn Words of Wind Reap Intellect Necrologia

is Darksteel Forge just to protect the commander? run Lightning Greaves instead, it's waaaaay cheaper to play.

because it's a sorcery and it goes to top of library rather than hand Cruel Tutor is almost strictly worse than Diabolic Tutor

If your opponents are going off way faster than you then you need to think about how to upset their early game with hate pieces. In combo heavy metas cards like Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Vryn Wingmare and Glowrider slow your opponents down enough to let you gain control of the situation Kambal, Consul of Allocation also gains you life to stick around as they cast themselves to death. for creature heavy metas cards like Archfiend of Depravity, Ophiomancer, forced sac like Butcher of Malakir Dictate of Erebos and Magus of the Tabernacle can really fuck over a lot of decks. For pure control, stax is usually the best option in competitive EDH since relying on counterspells and spot removal to keep 3 other players in check isn't feasible. I also always recommend some graveyard hate in any deck Nihil Spellbomb Relic of Progenitus Grafdigger's Cage Rest in Peace Tormod's Crypt Crypt Incursion Silent Gravestone are all good and cheap to play. I also personally put Necropotence in every black deck, It's so good it honestly should be banned. other good general control cards are Force of Will Pact of Negation Mystic Confluence and Cryptic Command.

I'm not really clear on the win con. Something like a Blightsteel Colossus, any of the preators, or a x mana life drain like Debt to the Deathless, Exsanguinate, or Torment of Hailfire could kill of opponents once you've stabilized the game.

MarshalLaeroth on Blood-Stained Pillow Fort

5 years ago

The7thBobba

Decided to do as you suggested and removed Etherwrought Page. Gotta protect myself against Iona too.

Making-a-new-account-Hopefully-I-can-get-my-old-Username on Blood-Stained Pillow Fort

5 years ago

yeah, that's atough one... Hmm, I usually don't run as many lands as you, so my thoughts go there first. but if 37 is where you are comfortable, then never mind... Hmm, Etherwrought Page seems like it offers a good deal of utility, but doesn't seem awfully powerful to me.

those be my 2 cents. All your other cards seem exceptionally powerful and purposeful :)

Stay frosty!

AlfrescoHotshot on First commander! need advice :)

7 years ago

Okay so this deck list is going 1000 different ways at once which from my perspective is fairly difficult to manage within esper. Basically the three major paths you can go down are the artifact decks such as Sen Triplets and Sharuum the Hegemon, Enchantment decks such as Zur the Enchanter and finally life gain decks based around Oloro, Ageless Ascetic. While other esper decks exist I wouldn't suggest going super obscure with your first EDH deck. Since you've chosen Oloro, Ageless Ascetic as your commander and based on your description of the deck I'm going to assume you are just wanting to go the life gain route but always remember you have the option of going chair tribal. If you do choose to go the life gain route, I would suggest cutting cards that don't necessarily benefit your goals. A prime example of this is Library of Leng you really don't have enough card draw to warrant running 4 no maximum hand size cards, unless you are running carddraw.deck you are typically fine with just a Reliquary Tower and a Thought Vessel. Another example is that you don't need 8 wrath effects, I'd recommend running around 4.Since a few other people preferred I do it this way, here is basically a laundry list of everything I'd recommend taking out. :Acquire Bident of Thassa Chalice of Life  Flip Elixir of Immortality Etherwrought Page Greater Auramancy Righteous Aura Spinal Embrace Sun Droplet Zur's Weirding Syphon Mind Underworld Connections Teferi's Care Web of InertiaLibrary of Leng Venser's Journal Children of Korlis Fleshbag Marauder Royal Assassin Dromar's Charm Repay in Kind Lethal Vapors Season of the Witch. Most of the removal you are running is fine just keep in mind things like Doom Blade have straight upgrades in EDH. Lastly Run Phyrexian Metamorph instead of Cryptoplasm it's a straight upgreade. In terms of looking for strong cards to put into your deck I'd suggest going to http://edhrec.com/ because it compiles all of the EDH decks on tappedout and tells you what most decks typically run. I'd also recommend running a copy of Aura Thief since you have Enchanted Evening.Finally I'll leave you with what I hear just about every time I go to my local shop to play EDH, Rhystic Study wins games.PS. Don't use Damnable Pact on an opponent... you aren't playing Nekusar, the Mindrazer

Ace_Of_Spades on

7 years ago

I know that Baleful Strix is worlds better than Tidehollow Strix but this deck was built on a budget that couldn't accommodate the $4 price tag of Baleful Strix. And in regards to Etherwrought Page, even I was on the fence about including it, but it does give a little bit of versatility that most other cards in this deck don't have.

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