Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, destroy it.
(0): Destroy Lethal Vapors. You skip your next turn. Any player may play this ability.
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Lethal Vapors occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
Lethal Vapors Discussion
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
Your commander should be entering with nearly all the keywords via a Cavern of Souls, so destroying things when they come in will really only hamper your opponent.
Solidarity of Heroes over Doubling Season just for the fact that as soon as you drop the season, everyone will focus you to death, and season doesn't really stop that on its own. Solidarity is a battle trick that coupled with doublestrike (which you should basically always have) is an insta win.
This is a great list, and I will be amending my own Kathril with some of your cards, so thank you very much!
4 months ago
@king-saproling: (I apologize for mentioning you again; you okay there?)
OK. The Amount in question to cut has increased to 12 -> 15. But the stakes for cutting that much to 99 + 1 has never been more complicated. There are also some Key pieces I DON'T wish to call them quits for surprisingly decent Reasons. Here they are w/ Explanation & the like:
Meekstone: Uh, Oko, Thief of Crowns? YA RLY. Oko isn't just a Great Cook, he can turn an opponent's Creatures & Artifice to 3/3 Ability-less Elks. Tap them all, & your opponent's better have an option ready. But if you say Humility needs to be cut, do you think this combo can make for a better alt?
Teferi, Time Raveler: Uh, why? This card has High Synergy Value not just from Bouncing Stuff, but in particular: Wishclaw Talisman. These two are one of the best Combos for Superfriends. Just Tutor with the Claws...
Master Tang: THEY HURT LIKE CRAP, MAN! (No joke; he literally said that.)
...Bounce it before ANY opponent can nab it from you, & you got Synergetic Tutoring. The scariest part is that this Combo was very powerful while Teferi was around in Standard. YES. This was a legitimate Combo in Standard. Which also meant ARENA players had to deal with this Hell Clock. Ol' Master Tang himself wasn't kidding about his comment on Iron Claws.
(Reference of Note: Master Tang from Kung-Pow: Enter the Fist)
Ral Zarek: ... Err... Why no to him? He's got ALOT going here. He can Tap an Opponents Perms or Untap them, & yours too if you choose & Weiß Versa (There's a Bad Pun there). This can be set to Tap Artifacts & Creatures for stuff like Nahiri, the Harbinger to EXILE. These Perms don't even include the "Nonland" Restriction, so if an opponent has a response, you can Tap that land to restrict Mana Pool Levels. This also goes for their Rocks/Boulders to restrict their mana further. But in any way possible, as long as it is Not an Instant or Sorcery, IT'S A TARGET BEGGING TO BE WASTED OR EVEN REUSED. So much versatility, & the Scariest part? This ability increase Ral's Loyalty by +1. Not even 0 or even -1; this Loyalty Ability is not only potent, but it increases Loyalty. Though I will agree that -2 is lackluster in practice, though God help us all if Ral's -7 is altered in a way that the Amount of Heads in such a Game of Chance is blown to more than 5 shots for an Extra Turn each... XP Trust me, he's amazing.
That said, What would your Final 15 cuts be in your case? I'd keep what I said (& Lethal Vapors if I had a noncreature Perm that is a Multi-Targeting Pithing Needle) for the reasons just said, & they sound like fine points to me. I'll try all I can otherwise, but for now, What would be your 15 cards to cut here?
(Can't believe I cut Tezzeret, Artifice Master; maybe something can be cut for him back in... Still owe you big time.)
4 months ago
@king-saproling: Okay. Here's the situation thus far. I only need 7 Cards to be cut for the Magic Numeric that is 99 + 1. However, the Cards Below are some important pieces that can do a lot more than you think:
Before going over the list of Insane Mentality, I've some Questions needing Answers:
After some thought, I wanted to put back in the Stax/Pillowfort cards in question. Which ones?
Here are some Combos that might question several Status Quos, but are awesome IMO:
Teferi, Time Raveler + Wishclaw Talisman : Infinite Tutors w/o ever giving your opponent the Claws is very good in the Synergy Field.
Lethal Vapors + Tainted AEther : Instant Lock; but I ponder about if it is worth putting in; looks epic though...
Aminatou, the Fateshifter + Doubling Season + Ral Zarek (& other Ral Zarek Combos.): There is a good reason ol' Ral is a key player here; he can Tap, & Untap any Permanent in the same Loyalty Ability; which really helps Nahiri, the Harbinger when needing to Exile whatever in a pinch. Also, His Ultimate will not only Flip for some Heads, but also increase Aminatou's -1 Stock in some way or another. Even w/o Cloudstone Curio to bounce either Walker, you might have a good chance of winning w/o Expropriate level Game Enders.
Any of them good? There are others, but I just wanted some thought from you. Would you want to put any of this back in? I understand some are either Meh, Mana Cost Hungry, or just too expensive to cast, but w/ 7 cards left to chop, & the above including some great ideas to add upon:
Sorin Markov (?)
I'm fully aware you gave these cards the "VETO", but even here, I believe they have a good place in this deck. I think I already said enough. That said, if you want all of them in; that's a 13 card cut in some way; 12 as ol Ral #1 will be in anyway for high versatility.
So, 12 Max to cut, but 8 at least reaches 99 + 1. I'll try & find a deck of yours I could help with a Suggestion or 2, but I'd rather wait until IKORIA Spoilers Shape Up.
...i seriously owe you at least that...
5 months ago
After careful consideration I've decided to not include Lethal Vapors.
Reason being that it will paint a big(er) target on me and that it most likely won't stay on the field for very long as the other players will definitely make an agreement amongst each other when paying for it's cost.
Thank you for the suggestion though.
5 months ago
Hickorysbane Thanks for the suggestions.
Lethal Vapors is indeed a good card that deters creature based decks.
What would you exclude for it?
5 months ago
I'd like to throw in a vote for Lethal Vapors if you haven't already considered it
8 months ago
I like Claws of Gix as an alternative to Grand Abolisher . You can tutor it with Enlightened Tutor . It works because you always gain priority right back after adding something to the stack. So nobody can respond to your 200 turn-skips until you pass. Since sacrificing Lethal Vapors is an activation cost on Claws of Gix , nobody can respond to that either.