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Weaponcraft Enthusiast Discussion
1 month ago
I never felt too inclined to include Viscera Seer since if I'm sacrificing a creature, I would rather it be to Yawgmoth to draw. I think Warteye Witch or Shadows of the Past would work better in the deck since their scry would work in conjunction with Yawgmoth's draw.
Now, I did think about having other sacrifice outlets other than Yawgmoth, but he is ultimately the centerpiece of the deck. I don't think that sacrificing to other things will produce the right kind of value for me. Unfortunately, that means the deck can be easily hampered by constantly removing Yawgmoth from the equation, so that's something I've worried about.
Peat Bog's counters can be replenished with Yawgmoth's proliferate ability, and Meteor Golem is there to provide removal for more than just creatures (artifacts and enchantments), something Black unfortunately lacks in.
1 month ago
I remember trying to build a deck like this once. I think Dragon Tempest would be a good inclusion in this deck since it works for any creature with flying, not just dragons.
For your sacrifice theme, I recommend Skirsdag High Priest and Priest of Forgotten Gods . Weaponcraft Enthusiast is a good and cheap fodder producer in addition to the ones mentioned by Funkydiscogod.
3 months ago
I mean the big wincons would be infect either by cheating out Blightsteel Colossus or proliferating one of the other sources. Or you could ult any of the Lilis. Otherwise I kind of was going for an Arisocrats good stuff deck with a Phyrexian theme where possible, which explains some inclusions like Gate to Phyrexia .
You get some decent token generation with things like Bitterblossom , Ophiomancer or Weaponcraft Enthusiast . Having these tokens helps since I went low on the land count accidentally, so you can sac them to your Phyrexian Tower or Ashnod's Altar . Other ways of getting mana include Astral Cornucopia and Bottomless Vault both of which take advantage of Yawgmoth's proliferate to get you more mana.
Some cards like Phyrexian Dreadnought and Phyrexian Soulgorger are more for flavor, but also can provide some sac outlets to get off death triggers. So despite the price of some of the cards it's likely not ideal, but in my playtests so far it's been pretty fun.
4 months ago
Shyachi33: Thanks for the comment!
It's... cute? Honestly, the real issue is that 1) I have no interest in running Triskelion in this deck, since he's utterly useless outside that combo, and 2) I have very few ways to protect that combo from counterspells or removal in mono-black, and if it's disrupted I'm SOL.
I suppose in this deck I could run a pile like Defense Grid / Contamination , Ashnod's Altar , Weaponcraft Enthusiast , Nim Deathmantle , Zulaport Cutthroat , with Yawg providing the method of draw... But then the question is whether it's actually NECESSARY, ya know?
4 months ago
I think it's worth pointing out that you need 2 creatures with undying on the board at the same time with at least 1 of them not having a +1/+1 counter on it for this combo to work (or, as you said, 1 Undying creature with Nest of Scarabs). Just worth explaining the combo somewhere in your primer so people understand how the combo works, imo.
Beyond that, I don't see many definitive wincons once you draw your whole deck. A Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat makes the most sense as you have a sacrifice loop, but it's complicated by the fact you must draw a card with Yawgmoth's ability so you're limited by the size of your library. Some kind of a discard outlet to allow you to keep discarding Kozilek to shuffle the yard into your library would allow this to be a definitive loop. If this was why you included Awaken the Erstwhile , note that this will not work as the trigger to shuffle your graveyard resolves before Awaken the Erstwhile finishes resolving (I would suggest getting rid of this unless there's an interaction I'm missing). Some discard outlets I would recommend:
- Sadistic Hypnotist - Though limited to sorcery speed and needing a creature to sacrifice, you're bound to have small creatures and tokens to sacrifice and this can be used equally well against opponents while you're grinding out the game.
- Putrid Imp - One of the cheapest repeatable discard outlets you can find. Probably my top pick.
- Olivia's Dragoon - More expensive than the Imp, but still repeatable at instant speed.
Though I know you're not including it for budget reasons, Lion's Eye Diamond is quite possibly the best discard outlet you can run as it also allows you to create infinite mana through this loop allowing for a huge Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire (which, by the way, I would also suggest adding somehwere). I'm not expecting you to add LED, just felt I should mention it for others hoping to make a spin on this!
If you want to push this into being more cEDH, I would swap out some of your mediocre cards (e.g. Weaponcraft Enthusiast , Sengir Autocrat , Big Game Hunter , Awaken the Erstwhile ) for some of the following:
- Any of the discard outlets I talked about above.
- More instant speed removal (e.g. Snuff Out , Devour in Shadow , Go for the Throat , Smother ) since that is pretty much the extent of your interaction in mono Black and you'll probably need it against faster decks.
- Entomb and Buried Alive with your existing reanimation package (plus maybe Animate Dead ) to be able to cheat creatures like Mikaeus, the Unhallowed onto the board.
- More fast mana (i.e. Chrome Mox , maybe Mana Vault , Mana Crypt if you disregard budget).
I like the idea for this, though, and hope you enjoy the deck!
6 months ago
6 months ago
Maybe consider 2-mana cards that get you servos? because 3 mana may not sound like much, but it is quite a bit. plus, you don't really need the 0/1 vanilla creature after you get the servos, because your whole point is to turn them into 5/5 creatures. I agree with Threefoldsuns. you could even run Chief of the Foundry , and that would still be a good card that's way better and more valuable than Weaponcraft Enthusiast . Frogmite is good too, run that card definitely.
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