Whenever one or more creatures cards leave your graveyard, create a 1/1 black Bat creature token with flying.
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- Does a card moving from your graveyard to the stack count as having left your graveyard, and how does that interact with assist?
- Does Desecrated Tomb trigger when I shuffle my grave?
- descrated tomb and scrapheap scrounger
- Is they a limit to how many token can spawn from a cards triggered ability?
- Do spells with Escape cast from the graveyard leave the graveyard at the same time as their Escape cost?
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Desecrated Tomb Discussion
1 week ago
3 weeks ago
Hey, well done on a budget so far for a first tribal deck. You have a nice tribal concept going and your card sense is good especially if you're a beginner.
You have 19 cards too many, some cards to consider cutting to make 100 cards:
- 3x Snow-Covered Swamp
- 2x Snow-Covered Island
- Bloodsoaked Altar
- Sanitarium Skeleton
- Marang River Skeleton
- Caged Zombie
- Severed Legion
- Circular Logic
- Gisa's Bidding
- Desecrated Tomb
- Grave Scrabbler
- Liliana's Reaver
- Eternal Skylord
- Narfi, Betrayer King
- Liliana's Steward
- Necromancer's Covenant
42 lands is a lot and there's also six ramp sources. You could cut 5-6 lands and be fine. I don't think adding Snow-Covered basic lands is worth it just for Narfi, Betrayer King . There's much better five drops and three drops here than Narfi to have to worry about having three Snow lands to cast him from your graveyard. The Snow duals that are an Island are good to keep because they help to activate Wonder . The other cards to consider cutting are simply not as good as other cards or Zombies at the same mana cost or have similar effects.
I offer more advice. Would you like more advice? Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Hey, thanks for the speedy reply!
I played a The Gitrog Monster land dredge-type deck and "the big 3" dredge creatures Golgari Grave-Troll , Stinkweed Imp and Golgari Thug had put in amazing work in the deck. Usually we only ever dredged with them. I figured i'd ask as we have many draw effects here within the hogaak list and figured it would put in some good work! I am building this and making some slight modifications, notably I feel like Worm Harvest would put in MASSIVE work in the list. For recursion sake and synergy I feel like Desecrated Tomb is worthy of a main deck slot.
I digress, Thank you for sharing your thoughts and list! Much appreciated! I look forward to terrorizing the playgroup with this list ;)
1 month ago
This deck looks like a lot of fun, and I don't play mono-black at all. I do have two decks that run Tormod, the Desecrator though, and he's really amazing. The value he generates I believe makes him worthy of a spot in the 99 instead of the sideboard.
Another fun little piece I love that can synergize well with Syr Konrad is Desecrated Tomb . But I'm not sure if you'd want to replace any of your more potent artifacts with it, since it just makes 1/1s.
1 month ago
I'm very happy to see Tormod, the Desecrator in here! He is one of my favourite cards from that set. I have him in two different zombie decks (one of which he is a partner commander) because I love his effect so much.
There are a few other things that will give you bonuses for removing things from your graveyard. I'm not sure how much they fit your theme, but Syr Konrad, the Grim is fun for the ping damage, and Desecrated Tomb gives you bats!
If you do end up including these, I would definitely recommend Zombie Apocalypse too for the combos you could get off.
This looks like a fun deck, either way. Good job!
1 month ago
Carnival of souls is quite the pick! I don't think I would run it, seems too easy to kill yourself. Though with enough aristocrats effects, I suppose you can get by.
In my grenzo deck I have about 20 non-creature cards. 2 of them inherently can be used in the graveyard and I decided on the others because I needed more interaction in the group I was playing against.
Out of those ones which you aren't running and I don't see in your maybe pile or deck that you should consider are:
Thran Turbine essentially a sol ring that you can use only during your upkeep on grenzo
Elixir of Immortality a way to protect your graveyard from someone trying to exile it
Desecrated Tomb makes each successful grenzo activation net you a Bat
Tel-Jilad Stylus lets you do 2 things -- repeat an etb of a creature already out, protect a creature from being interacted with. You can even activate grenzo and then use this in response to avoid targeted destruction. I've used this thing on Faceless Butcher to save grenzo from boardwipes.
Dark Privilege lets you block most creatures with grenzo, use it as a sac outlet and increases his power and toughness by 1. It also avoids lots of targeted removal, though not the most popular boardwipes.
Songs of the Damned depending on where the game is, this can be worse than dark ritual or net you 10 mana.
I would additionally suggest giving
a spin because it is some very good disruption, removes enchantments and lands. If you're lucky it can be a red timewalk due to bringing in the lands untapped.
A land you might want is Scorched Ruins . As far as you are concerned, once grenzo is out, this is like playing 2 lands for one. though there are obviously downsides.
My mana base consists of 36 lands and 12 creatures that produce mana, or in the case of
You have 6 out of the 12, and are running palladium myr which isn't a bad pick and I honestly forgot about it. The 5 which I haven't mentioned are Basal Thrull , Generator Servant , Treasure Nabber , Blood Vassal and Catalyst Elemental . With the exception of Nabber, they all replace themselves manawise due to generation 2 mana. I would avoid putting in manadorks that do not make 2 or more mana.
You might additionally want to consider
which lets you recur creatures or disrupts someone else's grave.
Since a grenzo deck usually does not cast that many spells, you can try throwing in some asymmetrical effects, such as
Eidolon of the Great Revel
to leverage that, though with the direction your deck is currently in, that doesn't seem necessary.
Additionally Shrieking Mogg can be used both offensively and defensively. If you know it's on the bottom, you can tap down an opponent before their declare attackers step. If it's your turn, tap down their creatures during your declare attackers step and all of their blockers will be tapped. It also neatly fits into the goblin theme you already have present.
2 months ago
Chandra's Incinerator is basically a one-sided board wipe
Young Pyromancer one of the best token generators ever printed, Mogg War Marshal isn't as good but still can be three creatures for two mana with reanimator synergy. Chandra, Acolyte of Flame gives temporary token but they still get the job done considering they are sac fodder.
Oketra's Monument , Monastery Mentor , Hero of Precinct One , Sedgemoor Witch , and Desecrated Tomb give back a bit of your commanders cost. Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder generates 4 tokens every time you cast your commander since it counts as a creature spell with 4 cmc.
2 months ago
Fun stuff, I also moved to Rakdos, to focus more on the Desecrated Tomb part of my combo. I'm down to the last 4 cuts, and within budget limits