Creature — Rhino
When Siege Rhino enters the battlefield, each opponent loses 3 life and you gain 3 life.
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Siege Rhino occurrence in decks from the last year
Siege Rhino Discussion
2 weeks ago
Since you are running three color cards, such as Anafenza, the Foremost and Siege Rhino , having the correct mana at the start of the game is important and, as a result, I recommend removing your basic lands for the modal dual faced lands: 4x Darkbore Pathway Flip and 4 Brightclimb Pathway Flip. If you are finding getting the correct mana combinations, you should also add some Indatha Triome or, if you are on a budget, Sandsteppe Citadel
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4 months ago
So I linked Birthing Pod as an example of a good toolbox deck to give you an idea of what makes a toolbox deck works. The elements are a solid gameplan without the engine card. An engine that generates a lot of advantage in cards or mana. And having cards to attack hand, board and graveyard tied to other useful effects.
As someone who plays a lot of Eldrazi in Modern and Legacy TKS is a great but in Piomeer you have to consider the cost to it. It requires you to either play suboptimal lands of which there are only enemy versions (Pain Duals), the Amonkhet Sac a Desert lands which also ping you to use coloured, wastes which is basically adding an extra colour. The cost is a lot for a single card. You cant even use a mana dork for it. And I didnt say anything about Sylvan. You need to develop your mana and its an OK card for that. The other cards mentioned pull your deck in a very diffrent direction away from tutor. Playing stuff to turn off counter spells isn't so hot when you are playing the role of the control deck. The others are low impact or also pull you aggro not control when your engine uses 5+ mana to get started. Rites wants you to flood the board with creatures etc.
So if you wanna play Vannifer you actually have hit upon some very good cards for the deck. Knight, Prince, etc. Mirror Image is OK but a bit more situational.
Bounding Krasis and Hippo let you turn any 2 drop into a 5 drop in a single turn. Siege Rhino pushes you from bant to 4c so your manabase needs to be red hot but is powerful beater and has a decent etb.
This is the sort of deck where your snakey friend can work as a 1 of. As can Tithe Taker as a useful effect that leaves a body behind.
You run 1 drop mana dorks and maybe some sylvans to help make turn 3 Vannifar.
Other cards to consider Scavenging Ooze. Hostage Taker, Sin Collector if you go black. Voice of Resurgence is a 2 cost who punishes counterspells and leaves a body behind. Felidar Guardian flickers creatures and land for mana. Renegade Rallier pods in off a 2 drop and revives any 2 drop in gy. Eldritch Evolution or Chord of Calling adds an extra form of toolbox and Collected Company gives advantage if built around a little more. If you diversify your card base to run useful enchantment creatures/artifact creatures and run fetches etc Traverse the Ulvenwald can also be useful and it then gives you access to non pod cards like Walking Ballista.
For Mardu toolbox I dont see a solid engine unless you are talking Wishclaw + Skybind. It would be neat to see a Lurrus of the Dream-Den / Open the Armory type toolbox with access to stuff like Mire's Grasp and the associated draw engines. But that suffers from some power issues.
4 months ago
The cards you are saying aren't tool box cards and are in fact bad. If I was trying to build a pioneer toolbox I would be leaning on a specific engine to enabler the toolbox repeatedly, not a single use spell that makes stuff mana inefficent. Dont play single use tutors.
Bring to Light is good because it gets and casts the spell which makes it more mana efficent. It is any cmc 5 or less spell in your deck. Compare to Grim Tutor where you are tacking 3 mana, some life and an extra point of interaction onto a spell.
Enigmatic Invocation is a pod esque effect so lets you play around counters and generate value at the end of your turn. The enchantments are more resilient to removal so you can play them out and pod them when needed.
Eldritch Evolution and Neoform do fetch creatures but you don't seem to understand the value of creatures in Pioneer. If I was playing Eldritch Evolution I would play cards like Reclamation Sage, Ravenous Chupacabra, Siege Rhino and Duskwatch Recruiter Flip. A mix of powerful value creatures, well costed ETB effects and strong bodies. These are better than instants and sorceries as they both threaten life, remove resources or trade 2 for 1 more easily.
Prime Speaker Vannifar has a lot of podding potential as you can turn a 2 drop into a 5 drop with cards like Breaching Hippocamp, Bounding Krasis and clone effects. This gives you both the ability to see a lot of your deck and pull out specific creatures. Fiend Artisan is similar but is a better threat and allows you to skip cmcs by paying mana. Yisan Chord is slower but doesnt have a cost besides mana.
So yeah. Basically. You want your tutors to be engines or provide cost efficency. Or your answers to be extra flexible like creatures and playable on their own. No more watcher of the dead
4 months ago
4 months ago
Here are my thoughts
Don't split the land cycles
It is infinitely easier to say "Oh Geneva has painlands and checklands" rather than "Okay so Dimir has Drowned Catacomb next Boros has Sunbaked Canyon" etc. This is an ease of access point for getting started in the format but also regularly building decks in the format. Having to remember specifically which lands from all the different land cycles go into what color groups will be a huge turn off for most players. I also suggest keeping 5 color cycles for non-land cards intact too; if you have Gold Myr then include the other 4 colors as well.
Include X spells
Aside from giving nice offerings to decks as games go long, it gives you a use for all that ritual style mana ramp in the format.
Focus your ideas for the format
Currently, it seems like Legacy card pool with Pioneer power levels, except the only style of play is "Make synergy then swing creature". When you wanted to make a new format, what prompted you to do so? Is there a certain type of deck you are trying to bring to prominence, or a certain type of deck you don't want to see in the format? I think you should approach from a top-down design, rather than throwing cards at the board and seeing what sticks. It will also help in selling your idea to players, "Hey try my new format, it lets you do X Y and Z different from the other formats!"
Consider the power level you want
Your most well developed themes are madness and lifegain, both stompy builds of medium-low power level. Meanwhile, you have one of the absolute most efficient pieces of removal ever printed with Swords to Plowshares as well as 3 various alternate casting cost creature removal spells. Having hyper efficient creature removal and almost entirely creature based damage to win will create some stale gameplay rather quickly.
Focus on deck archetypes
A healthy metagame has aggro, midrange, and control, the eternal rock-paper-scissors of MTG. Aggro has good match up against control but hard against midrange, midrange is good against aggro and weak to control, and control is good against midrange but weak to aggro. Within that basic rock-paper-scissors, also consider well-known deck archetypes and builds. Some that come to mind are burn, spellslinger, combo, white weenies, tribal, prison, and mill. The format should appeal to Timmies, Johnnies, and Spikes in various ways. If I'm Johnny combo player and the only way to "combo" win is play life gain cards + life gain pay offs + attack with creatures, I'm going to lose interest in the format.
That being said, I highly recommend you get a good splash of cards into the pool for various archetypes before you get into the minutia of what each deck will play, this is currently still barer than bare-bones. Siege Rhino seems like it will be a deck to you right now, but it might not once you get the rest of the format fleshed out.
Play to each color's strengths
This format is currently just creature whack. Green is the creature and ramp color, but is primarily serving to ramp other colors and doesn't have good beaters. Blue is known for drawing and counter magic, of which we see almost none of yet. Look at the colors and think about the keywords that go alongside them, as well as non-creature spells. Red is going to want cards with haste, especially 1 drops, but also a variety of direct damage cards. Blue is going to want a handful more draw cards, probably bounce and countermagic too. Black could benefit from another discard effect beyond Duress, and that opens the door for Megrim to be a deck. Look for perennial keywords like trample, flying, first strike, haste, and even protection from color if you're feeling spicy.
Think about threats and answers
Empty the Warrens is a storm card that could fit well into a creature heavy format without throwing the entire format to Storm but still providing a new deck archetype and varied play for the format. It is a high caliber threat for decks to close games, but there are also tons of answers decks can use to handle it, such as Pyroclasm or Wrath of God or the already in-set Marrow Shards. Thinking about how decks win is crucial to designing the format, but having answers in mind for the threats keeps the format balanced. It will give players a better and more interactive experience, and it will raise the value of sideboarding immensely. Do you have a graveyard based combo for Combo Johnny? Well a Tormod's Crypt sounds like a great include to keep them in check. Lots of big hexproof/shrouded creatures for midrange to fight control? Give control effects to get around them like Chainer's Edict or even just more wrath effects. If you want the format to be dynamic, create threats and create answers.
Find synergies for cards already in the format
Do you want every deck to be a goodstuffs pile? Nobody wants that. Look to cards that are already included and give players deckbuilding choices. For example, you might think that Voltaic Key is an excellent way to get some more mileage from Worn Powerstone, and that inclusion of Voltaic Key will lead you to a few other cards that work well with the pair. Give players options, and think about the things a player will want available to them. Finding cards that nestle in alongside existing cards is an excellent way to start.