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Oracle of Dust
Creature — Eldrazi Processor
Devoid (This card has no color.)
, Put a card an opponent owns from exile into that player's graveyard: Draw a card, then discard a card.
Oracle of Dust Discussion
1 month ago
What are composite prinnies?
My folders aren't very organised. [Not My Commander] is my only folder where I include other people's decks, and literally only just started doing that a few days ago. Yours is the second one I've added, so I don't really have any context for it yet. Rest assured I like the idea of your deck a lot.
Yeah, no love lost for the Worldgorger Dragon here either. It needs more than decent support in the form of reanimation and countermagic, and if your deck isn't all about that then it's not necessarily a great fit. I just mentioned it because it's an interesting card that cares about exiled stuff. I won't be offended in the least if you don't adopt a suggestion of mine, in case you're concerned about that. It's your deck, dude. I'm just here to help.
Lion's Eye Diamond is crazy expensive, money-wise. For that reason, I personally don't think it's ever worth running unless you're building at least a somewhat competitive deck, unless you just happen to have one handy. On the other hand, if you do only play casually with friends then they probably won't mind if you run a tournament-illegal version of Yawgmoth's Will – there are gold-bordered signed collector's versions available for significantly less than the regular cost (with Yawgmoth's Will on magiccardmarket ATM, it's €7.00 as opposed to the official card that's €23.95). They don't have a standard MtG back on them though, so you'll need to be using sleeves to use them.
So, Doomsday . If you don't like it, then don't run it. But as I understand it, a lot of those packages run 3-4 draw spells, Laboratory Maniac , and maybe some countermagic support. Considering this is what's in your deck ATM, I'll run with that. It's another all-in strategy and once again; if your Lab Maniac gets countered or killed before you draw the card, it pretty much means that you lose. I know a lot of people run Gitaxian Probe and other super-cheap draw spells in this package, the idea being to cast them all in the one turn and then win. If you want to stick with the Flashback theme, there's Faithless Looting and Scour All Possibilities and Echo of Eons which you already run, and then there's Deep Analysis and Think Twice . None of these is particularly expensive money-wise. Also, I know this is exactly the opposite of what you're looking for, but if Doomsday is to be a legit wincon for this deck then you might want to reconsider cutting Mirror of Fate . It's rarely an amazing card, but in this deck if things are going well, basically stands to serve as a second Doomsday, which is exactly what every Doomsday deck wants.
As for the landbase, how exactly did you want to revise it? There are a lot of interesting things to be done with lands, but I've usually just forgone those when it comes to 4+ colour mana bases (particularly if budget means running slow fetch lands like Bad River as opposed to Polluted Delta ). Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is good in any deck that uses black. I know you're not running any other Slivers, but Path of Ancestry is still a decent land in 5-colour decks that aren't high-end competitive - just read it as a Command Tower that enters tapped, which is still pretty great in non-competitive EDH. If you are okay with a couple of a taplands, Grand Coliseum is also great. On the other end, Tarnished Citadel is good for mana right now if you need it.
Now, for some suggestions on Flashback and other cards to cut.
I think you have just a couple too many recursion effects for instant and sorcery spells. Cards like Pull from the Deep are pretty decent because they get you two-for-one, as in you spend one card to gain access to two.
Conversely, something like Recoup probably isn't so good - it only gives you access to one card when you cast it, and you need to have the mana available to cast it that same turn. It's not an awful card, it has Flashback which both gives it more utility than for which I'm giving it credit and also fits this deck's theme. But you have an above-average amount of recursion spells and if you are actively looking for something to cut, this'd be something I'd recommend.
I think Sins of the Past is a decent card, but not great unless you have a number of really great bombs in your deck. If you don't have a fair number of high-cost, high-impact spells to target with it, it becomes an expensive 1-for-1. Similarly, Mystic Retrieval can be good when things are going your way and it sort of fits the theme, but in the early- to mid-game it can really suck to be left with only this card in your hand. When making cuts, you'll generally want to cut the cards that, at some points of the game, do straight-up nothing. Unfortunately, Mystic Retrieval kinda fits the bill here.
All Suns' Dawn is a great recursion spell, but less good when you lean away from a few colours. Considering you already have a number of other great spells in your deck, I don't know about this one in this scenario. I think basically, you'll want a few low-end and a few high-end recursion spells.
Some cards I would cut when push comes to shove —
3 months ago
Thanks for the advice, Gattison! I think that I will switch out Unnatural Aggression for either Prey Upon or Rabid Bite , since the exile part isn't necessarily too important, since I have cards with ingest. My main goal with this deck is essentially to create scion tokens to play more creatures or larger creatures, which I can swing with to win. In my opinion, the ingest mechanic is almost like a bonus in my deck; since I'll be swinging anyways, I might as well exile some cards while I'm at it. I can then use those cards if I need to by using Oracle of Dust to cycle through my deck for the larger creatures, or with Ruin Processor to gain life if I'm running low. As far as running other eldrazi cards, I just made this deck with cards that are already in my collection, so I don't have a lot of selection to choose from. I think I also will switch out Titanic Growth for Giant Growth , if I have enough copies.
As far as generating , I can actually generate with the scion tokens and Kozilek's Channeler . The reason that they do not have the symbol is because it was introduced in OGW, and these cards came out in BFZ. The rules for such cards have since been adjusted at accommodate for cards like these; for example, if you check out the tokens or Kozilek's Channeler on the Gatherer, you will see that they produce instead of generic, just as Sol Ring produces instead of generic now.
I appreciate your feedback and suggestions! I'll get to test it tonight hopefully, so we'll see how it runs!
6 months ago
Adarkar Valkyrie and Exclusion Ritual are the only cards I can see right now that aren't too helpful. Here are some suggestions: Oracle of Dust , Murk Strider , Ulamog's Reclaimer , Strionic Resonator , Naban, Dean of Iteration , Reality Acid , Wall of Omens , Meteor Golem , Nevermaker , Angel of Serenity , Diluvian Primordial , Flickerwisp , War Priest of Thune , Ichor Wellspring , Mycosynth Wellspring , Trial of Knowledge , Harbinger of the Tides , Merchant of Secrets , Champion of Wits , Deadeye Navigator , Sower of Temptation , Exclusion Mage .
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1 year ago
i don't understand how long is working this Rebound "effect" i think for 2 upkeep(at the beginning of your next upkeep) and after is put on graveyard or exile.
1 year ago
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