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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Pauper | Legal |
| Pauper Duel Commander | Legal |
| Pauper EDH | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Premodern | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Tinder Wall
Creature — Plant Wall
Defender
Sacrifice Tinder Wall: Add to your mana pool.
, Sacrifice Tinder Wall: Tinder Wall deals 2 damage to target creature it's blocking.
smack80 on
Here Comes the Boo-m
11 months ago
Hey, I'm working on a minsc list too. Here's waht I have: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/minsc-and-boo-and-friends/
Some tricks I've found:
If your commander is a planeswalker that costs 4, you want to be casting him on turn 3 or 2 and have defense up. EDH players just love throwing spare attacks at planeswalker so you need defense. Kodama's reach doesn't let you do this, but 2-mana ramp will. Even better is ramp that also leaves behind a blocker, like Wall of Roots. You have the Lotus cobra already, consider also Thunderscape Familiar. Tinder Wall can cast Minsc on turn 2. Khalni Garden will give you mana and leave behind a blocker as well. Wilson, Refined Grizzly is an ALL-STAR attacker and defender.
I like Gruul for removal that hits lots of things at once so I can just run my opponents out of resources with every 3-for-1 or 4-for-1. Vandalblast, Mizzium Mortars, Chandra's Ignition, Tribute to the Wild, Volcanic Offering, Decimate.
Don't play Fling effects. You don't need to sacrifice your guys to deal damage=power. You can play things like Soul's Fire and Ram Through and Domri's Ambush.
Loxodon Warhammer is straight worse than Shadowspear and your growing creatures can easily wear Belt of Giant Strength for no equip cost.
Squee_Spirit_Guide on
Pre-Y2K Panic Button
1 year ago
Thanks for the comment and the upvote DreadKhan! Orcish Lumberjack is a great suggestion. I actually had it in the original version. I loved how quickly you could ramp with it and Tinder Wall.
Weirdly, I mostly used it to cast Jokulhaups, but you're absolutely right that it has the ability to help get Lhurgoyf out in a hurry after wiping the board. Needing it to be in play for a turn before I cast Jokulhaups is a little scary because people will know I'm up to something, but I'm definitely going to test it out again and see how it fits in this version. I think the mana base will support it since I don't typically have trouble getting the for Jokulhaups.
Thanks for your thoughts! I appreciate it!
Henchman31 on
Notorious B: Ready to Die [Remastered]
1 year ago
Gattison: Thanks again for the tips on updating the decks. To celebrate getting out of quarantine, last night I took this deck to my LGS to test it out with the other Pauper players. I made some minor changes beforehand:
Lands: +2 Mortuary Mire, +2 Barren Moor Instants: +4 Deadly Dispute
Sideboard: 2 Nihil Spellbomb, 2 Sylvok Lifestaff, 3 Tragic Slip, 4 Dash Hopes, 2 Feed the Swarm, 2 Shrivel
We're normally a small group but that night we were only 4: myself, another Pauper regular, and two others who are very active in the competitive Modern league. We settled into 3 rounds and... oof: 5 losses, 1 win, and one undecided due to overtime. Here's how it went down:
Round 1: vs. BG Dredge/ Tortured Existence 0-2-0 Not a good matchup at all, I'm afraid. Spore Frog made the combat step irrelevant, Thoughtpicker Witch kept me drawing lands and exiling my answers, and saccing his chump blockers to the deck's namesake kept me from activating any beneficial death triggers. All my card-draw got shuffled to the bottom in both rounds and there wasn't much I could do until he got a couple Gurmag Angler out to end my misery. On a side note: I hate playing against Dredge almost as much as Blink or Tron--all of which are beloved in this local meta. Maybe it's just ze Germans -_-. I'm always on the lookout for answers against these.
Round 2: vs. UB Looting/Control 0-2-0 Things were looking hopeful while I was developing my board and he was just casting different versions of Preordain for the first few turns. His main beater turned out to be Shipwreck Sifters, which got uncomfortably swole thanks to repeatable looting. Dross Golem was a star in this round and almost killed him in the first match. However after sideboarding, his removal became much more aggressive and I wasn't even left with blockers. Missing answers and sigh card draw, he took it home with some beefy spirits.
Round 3: vs. Temur Cascade or Gruul Walls + Mulldrifter -_-' 1-1-1 This was a weird one: aggressively defending and ramping with Tinder Wall, Overgrown Battlement, and Tuktuk Rubblefort until he could cascade into Boarding Party and other beaters. By turn 3 he had at least 6 walls out, each with at least 3 toughness that brushed off anything I could turn sideways. We were both surprised when my card draw engine started working in match 2 and I could slap out my own beaters with multiple rituals and disputes in a single turn. While he was missing his and Winding Way, I managed a Soulcage Fiend and Mortis Dogs by turn 2. After taking the 5-life hit from Dash Hopes twice, I had him on turn 5; clinching it with Howl from Beyond. Although the last round was undecided and he was prepared to kill me with hasty Pirates again, I was still pleased to pull off the primary wincon at least once.
Overall thoughts: This was my first outing with the deck so I still need to play it more to see the clear differences between the inherent weaknesses and my own misplays. I like aggressive decks and when this got going, I was down to clown. All-stars of the night were Mortis Dogs, Dross Golem, and especially Deadly Dispute. So much value. Add a dash or two of Dark Ritual and Sign in Blood in a single turn? chef's kiss That being said, I still think some adjustments are in order: First, that Mortuary Mire got to go. It slowed down the deployment of creatures and messed with my draws. Silly me. Unearth is much better recursion hands down. Second, sadly the goblins and newts must make room for another 1 or 2 Festering Mummy and a full set of Shambling Ghast. The latter does the same thing as the others but gives the option to ramp--which is especially relevant in my meta where creature decks are scarce. Third, better quicker removal? I left out Innocent Blood this time but either that or the asymmetrical Geth's Verdict could work. Fourth, mass removal or damage-dealing ala Crypt Rats or Pestilence? Sure, it would kill our forces but isn't that the point?
After looking at some other Suicide Black lists, I've seen what makes this deck unique and I'm still interested in making it work. I like the focus on death triggers and I'd love to find more ways to exploit them. Other creature-based lists use beaters like Guul Draz Vampire, Dauthi Slayer, and Carnophage to drop that life total to the floor. Pumping beaters like these and/or giving them lifelink seems appealing, but I'd like to stay true to the spirit of this deck as much as I can.
Sorry for the wall of text, I just wanted to get this all out now while it was still fresh. I hope this proves interesting to you or any others looking to try this deck out.
Balaam__ on
Din's Fire
1 year ago
Pity it’s a costed card, otherwise Tinder Wall would be some decent acceleration. There’s always Simian Spirit Guide too, although neither gets (or keeps) a body in play to count toward the creature check:/
lagotripha on
8-Hack
1 year ago
This is an interesting idea. Wild Cantor type lists are always kinda cool, the question is what makes them tick. This one really wants to infernal plunge to 8 mana.
Going into Red / Black for Pentad Prism, Culling the Weak and Burnt Offering would be my take. Another option would be green for Orcish Lumberjack & Tinder Wall. There are a bunch of cards that let you cheat mana for one turn, but those sets are the closest to the rest of this build.
I think I'd just go 3/3 on crusher/devastator to increase reliability. I'd also give a little thought to It of the Horrid Swarm (though emerge is a neat mechanic that I'd want to check the cathodion ruling on).
cheffireball on
Balls to the Walls
1 year ago
Portcullis Vine is ok if your flooding, Saruli Caretaker and Tinder Wall can ramp, Tuktuk Rubblefort gives your walls haste to tap for mana faster, Winding Way and Lead the Stampede are great draw effects in green if your mostly creatures and last but not least Freed from the Real gives you infinite mana if you control a creature that taps for more than 1 blue (Axebane Guardian comes to mind).
I would cut Wall of Tanglecord and some of the burn spells. Walls that just block are really bad vs decks with board clears or non-combat wincons. And more than 1-2 burn spells are unnecessary for your deck to win. If you do add Winding Way or a similar card, consider Valakut Invoker or just big beaters like Boarding Party .
There is a popular pauper deck called "walls combo" that this deck is very similar to. Walls combo can go off turn 3-4 very consistently while also having a lot of defenders. Check it out: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pauper-walls-combo#paper
plakjekaas on Are there any old cards …
2 years ago
The combination of Burgeoning and Ghost Town with any landfall on board is great.
Seeds of Innocence is a great green alternative to Vandalblast that I've never seen anyone else consider, even though it's cheaper than Creeping Corrosion in mana. I'm using it in my cEDH Marwyn, the Nurturer deck, to blow up a lot of opposing fast mana very early. Getting rid of someone's Mana Vault , Sol Ring , Chrome Mox and Mox Diamond on turn 2 is amazing, and your opponent only gains 2 life for that.
In the same vein, Meltdown is an amazing card if your deck is light on artifacts itself.
My Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire deck is all about ramping out the commander fast, give it haste and have fun with the transformation trigger. Orcish Lumberjack and Tinder Wall are very overlooked and efficient mana dorks to help complete that goal.
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