Tinder Wall

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Coldsnap Theme Deck (CTD) Common
Masters Edition II (ME2) Common
Ice Age (ICE) Common

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Tinder Wall

Creature — Plant Wall

Defender

Sacrifice Tinder Wall: Add to your mana pool.

, Sacrifice Tinder Wall: Tinder Wall deals 2 damage to target creature it's blocking.

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Tinder Wall Discussion

Jaecen on Animar Sec

1 month ago

Card Categorization

I've categorized the cards in your deck here: https://deckstats.net/decks/50753/1215572-animar

The following analysis is based on that categorization. Several cards are in more than one category, so I've categorized them based on their primary or common case. E.g. Ancient Animus is both "Removal" and "+1/+1 Counter Interaction", but you're going to cast it to kill something -- the +1/+1 counter is a nice bonus.

Strategy

There's no explicit or stated goals of the deck, so I can't evaluate the cards against that. If you have a goal, let me know.

The core effect of Animar is to play creatures, which grows Animar. As Animar grows, he helps you play more (and more expensive) creatures. Some notable limitations:

  • Animar only decreases colorless costs
  • Animar only cares about creatures
  • Animar only cares about casting creatures

Animar is cheap to cast and protects himself from most removal (due to his protection from Black and White). Because of this, we can assume that we will get him out early and keep him out long enough for him to provide benefit. We'll build the deck assuming Animar is on the battlefield at all times.

Since Animar reduces the colorless component of creature costs, we'll get the biggest benefit from colorless creatures. As with any unlimited cost reduction effect, we should look for ways to break the free case. The obvious one here is to bounce and recast colorless creatures for free.

Since we're playing all of these (hopefully free) creatures, Animar will grow quickly. Giving Animar good evasion will give us to win on commander damage quickly.

To best abuse Animar, we want:

  • Many creatures across a range of mid to high colorless costs
  • As many of those creatures in our hand as possible
  • An many +1/+1 counters on Animar as soon as possible
  • A means to make Animar unblockable

The easiest way to break Animar is to create an engine that casts colorless creatures and bounces them to your hand as many times as possible during a turn. We'll want ETB/LTB effects on those creatures and cards that care about creatures entering and leaving the battlefield. Additionally, we'll want cards that care about +1/+1 counters on a creature.

Favor creatures over non-creatures, as you get a discount on creatures. Try to keep colored costs to a minimum - avoid double or more colors in a cost.

Abusable Colorless Creatures:

Repeatable Bounce:

Synergies:

Unblockable Enablers:

We'll want to get as many creatures down as quickly as we can. Card draw and other card advantage effects are valuable.

Draw/Card Advantage:

Changes to the Existing Cards

I would consider cutting way down on the amount of ramp. Mana dorks get the deck running early, but they don't have any synergy with the core effects. I suspect that's what was leaving you feeling like you had a dead hand.

Cards that seem particularly problematic:

  • Wild Cantor . Requires a sac for effect. Doesn't get cost reduction. A dork that taps for mana would be better.
  • Tinder Wall . Same as Wild Cantor sans the cost reduction bit.
  • Vivid Creek and Vivid Crag . These both ETB tapped, don't have basic land types, and only provide off-color mana twice. If would strongly consider running Amonkhet cycling duals over these.
  • Ancient Ziggurat . Be careful, as this mana can only be used for casting creature spells. I don't like this land in most decks.
  • Bond Beetle . I have no idea why this is in here. It works once and has very little synergy with the deck. Verdurous Gearhulk would be better, but still not great.
  • Green Sun's Zenith . I think a cheaper card that tutored to hand and then let you cast the card would be better, as you'd get the cost reduction effect and other synergies. No cards come to mind, but there are lots that look at the top X cards and tutor to hand ( Gift of the Gargantuan , etc.).

Alkadron on PDH(BRG) - The Master of Slaughter

1 month ago

Thanks for the suggestions! They seem like good ones, I'm sure I'll find a home for them at some point. I also need to add Rite of Flame and Tinder Wall . The problem is I'm lazy and... I kinda lost interest in maintaining or playing this deck. It sort of exists at this point only as a novelty. :/

For anyone else wondering about the turn two kill:

  • Use a Lotus Petal or Simian Spirit Guide (or Rite of Flame or Tinder Wall) to drop the Slaughtermaster on turn one.

  • Use a combination of combat tricks to swing for 16 commander damage on turn two. Easy mode involves Tainted Strike or Invigorate , but it can also be done with a Groundswell or more burst-mana.

merrowMania on Competitive Omnath, Locus of Rage

3 months ago

@MrChowder20 - You may :P

Mox Diamond is not particularly necessary for the deck if you change up your playstyle to focus more on Omnath. Ramping by one is only really useful in the early game when you want to drop (and then play under) Stax pieces ASAP. Feel free to cut it for a land or some slower ramp piece of your choice.

Grim Monolith can be cut for Seething Song or Tinder Wall. While these are a bit worse (and make countermagic hurt a bit more), they will usually get the job done in most high power EDH groups (as opposed to full power cEDH).

Wheel of Fortune is rather unique in red, so it is a lot harder to replace its slot. The closest thing to it would be Reforge the Soul. Depending on the power level you are playing in, it will range from a perfectly adequate replacement to a mildly annoying extra-two-mana-but-still-worth-running replacement.

This deck is constructed to be as optimal as possible without regard to budget (with the caveat in mind that I only have so much time to dedicate to Magic, be it playing or theory-crafting). My playgroup is okay with proxies, so I tend not to think about budget replacements, so take my advice with a grain of salt since I never tested budget versions of the deck.

SaberTech on Ancestral Animar

6 months ago

I still like Tinder Wall. It's a ritual that is able to help get Animar out turn 2, and getting access to that immediate two red mana allows you to be able to threaten to cast Kiki-Jiki when opponents may not be expecting it.

Turn 1) Green source + mana elf. Turn 2) Blue source. Flash in Pestermite before the start of your next turn. Turn 3) Red source, cast Tinder Wall and sac it to cast Kiki.

I know the red mana becomes less helpful as the game goes on, but the deck's package of red cards has been steadily increasing so the mana isn't quite as dead as it used to be.

AlarmedNine on Ancestral Animar

6 months ago

That would be nice to see. I still wanna see 1U/G ETB draw a card, or a better dork than Tinder Wall.

To note I am really surprised with Cratermaker. A much needed interaction piece, now we aren't as reliant on the table.

Daarkest on Help building a Bloodbriar deck

8 months ago

Gattison- Fling is great for two reasons! I can use it with Bloodbriar in response to removal, or I can use it with him after combat to get the rest of the damage through for the win. And now I have a reason to play Tinder Wall. Thanks!

Daarkest on Help building a Bloodbriar deck

8 months ago

eyes2sky: Tinder Wall is great if I extend into red. I really like Sakura-Tribe Elder too. Thanks!

eyes2sky on Help building a Bloodbriar deck

8 months ago

Brian is a really fun card to build around! I really like cards that get you 2 (a counter plus) things...thinking value for your mana. For example: Sakura-Tribe Elder, Tinder Wall, Fume Spitter, Abjure and Implement of Ferocity are just a few examples. If you're looking for more inspiration check out Gattison's: Bloodbriar Decks

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