Tribal Instant — Rogue
Prowl (Blue) (You may play this for its prowl cost if you dealt combat damage to a player this turn with a Rogue.)
Look at the top four cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
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Thieves' Fortune Discussion
2 months ago
Budget rogues is a sweet brew - I ran it a long while back. I really reccomend running as many 1 drop rogues as you can - I was running up to 12, alongside card draw to keep them going, preferring unblockables as you can to take advantage of blackguard/thought thief and prowl. The higher up the mana curve you go, the more expensive the list gets as it turns into the faerie/ninja style lists.
Frogtosser is a fun card, but without a second cheap cost reduction spell, its probably better just to play some cheaper cmc rogues, unless you plan to ramp into a particularly key card.
Most of the below cards are really cheap, and you should be able to test different kinds of shells using them. You can mess around with mostly blue shells and add some negates, or mostly black and add push - but the best thing about rogue decks is that so long as you keep switching it up your opponents won't know exactly what they are facing, and will have to play accordingly.
Morsel Theft is a lightning helix at the face that draws a card when you are hitting your opponent, but bad without a board state.
Key artifact meta - Thieving Skydiver
'sorta' card advantage options
Noggin Whack / Acquisitions Expert a solid 'no hand for you' plan does a lot to keep your rogues on the battlefield. If sieze/inq is out of budget, Bribery or plain old Duress variants can still get you there.
Cards to avoid (traps)
Disciple of Deceit - the card disadvantage and tap/untap on it is punishing. Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive relevant rogues already evasive Thieves' Fortune - if you are looking for answers its likely they've already stopped you hitting them in the face.
Secondly, Pyre of Heroes is an interesting option to turn 1 drops into 2 drops, letting you have more consistent access to lords like soaring or blackguard. It also dodges counterspells like vial, even if its not at instant speed and doesn't help after a wrath. Its worth testing with some proxies to see how it matches you against the decks you are likely to play, as artifact removal is common (but getting them to sideboard it in is also good). Glasspool Mimic Flip is notable in this case as a way to search out a clone of a lord without taking up a full creature slot, while Zulaport Cutthroat offers an option to drain out an opponent (even if it doesn't trigger prowl).
I hope this helps - have fun brewing!
2 months ago
Here are my thoughts - many of these have already been echoed by Balaam__ above.
Modern is a very fast format. Most miderange decks typically want to be running cards with cmc between 1-3, with a very few cards at cmc4 (look at Jund, for example, that only runs Bloodbraid Elf and then lots of low-costing cards). In that vein, I think you need to look at lowering your curve. I get that some of your cards can be cast for cheaper with Prowl, but I think you'd only want to keep the very best of these.
On the above note, personally I would drop Zareth San, the Trickster and Notorious Throng entirely. Their cost is waaay too high, especially in a deck with 22 lands, and they don't do enough to justify their spots. I would also drop a few Earwig Squad - it feels like you want to be playing either 2 or 3.... maybe mainboard 2 and have a 3rd in the sideboard against decks that you really need to disable?
I would echo what has already been said above that some good cmc1 cards would be very useful to the the deck. Consider Fatal Push , Thoughtseize , Inquisition of Kozilek . You probably want at least 8ish cards that are 1cmc so your first turn isn't wasted.
On the subject of lands, I would recommend swapping both Sunken Hollow and Rogue's Passage for both of Darkslick Shores and Drowned Catacomb . The Hollow just has too many scenarios where it's going to slow you down, and the Passage is both going to hurt your mana base, and be unlikely to get any benefits (you need 5 lands in play and nothing else to do, to make use of it). If the beforementioned cards are too expensive, i'd suggest just running basics over what's happening now.
If you have the money, I'd strongly suggest ditching Thieves' Fortune in place of Aether Vial . It'll make your deck multiple-times stronger than where it is now, and and also Vial will be able to slot seamlessly into any other future tribal-based decks you make, if that is your preferred way of playing. Another option for this deck in particular could be Bitterblossom . I do think Thieves' Fortune is probably a card you'd want to ditch, though perhaps this is a slot that could also be happily consumed by the beforementioned 1cmc cards too.
1 year ago
Sure thing! I'm going to be looking at this from the perspective of someone who wants to make the deck as "competitive" as possible; I won't talk about stuff like flavor and such because then all of my opinions would clash and you'd be confused. >.<
In the main deck:
I like Quickling, but I would change those Silkbind Faeries back to Pestermite, because even though Silkbind is reusable, it uses up mana and takes a turn to get the effect. Pestermite, while only a single-use creature, gives you an immediate effect and has a more flexible ability that can tap opposing lands, untap one of your own lands to play another creature or leave up counterspell mana, untap one of your creatures to block, etc. whereas Silkbind can only tap creatures. I can't tell you how many times I've saved myself from a turn 4 sweeper or other removal spell by flashing in Pestermite on an opponent's upkeep and tapping down one of their splash colors. Also, the difference between a spell that does something on turn 3 and a spell that sits around on turn 3 then takes mana to do something on turn 4 is huge in Modern (I realize your daughter will be playing against Standard Challengers, but there's still a big difference there).
Faerie Trickery: As an aggressive deck, you want to deal with threats for as little mana as possible, even if the effect is only temporary; that way, you can play your offensive spells on top of the removal and continue to push pressure onto your opponent. This is somewhat less of a deal when you have flash creatures (makes threat evaluation a bit easier), but I've found that it still works far better to keep the cmc of removal spells low. So, I suggest you replace Faerie Trickery with Mana Leak. Exile effects won't matter as much when the deck is as proactive as this one is, so it's better to take the lower cmc and easier-to-cast colors of Mana Leak.
As for Faerie Tauntings, I just don't think it's a very good card. Three mana is a lot for a card that doesn't do much the turn it comes into play. In my opinion, it would be better to just play a couple Vapor Snag in its spot, since this deck needs a few creature removal spells to keep up with other aggressive decks. A 4:2 or 3:3 split of Vapor Snag:Mana Leak would be preferable, actually.
In the sideboard:
Peppersmoke: Generally, when building sideboards you want every card to have as much of an affect on a specific matchup as possible. Peppersmoke is just not that type of card, haha. Fun fact: against Jund specifically, Peppersmoke is pretty bad since it counts as two card types in the graveyard for Tarmogoyf, which means the creature is literally unkillable (even if it's a 0/1) and gets a +2/+2 buff if you try to do so! If you want more creature removal, I suggest playing something more powerful, like Echoing Truth (deals with tokens well), Fatal Push if you can spare the money, Victim of Night, Dismember.
Hypnotic Sprite: This is, once again, not a great sideboard card. You do not want to counter Burn spells with a 3 mana counter (3 mana spent vs 1 mana spent = mana lost and a whole turn spent on your part), and the combo decks I know of will either kill before turn 3 (Neoform combo) or have a >3 cmc spell as their most important combo piece (Past in Flames in Storm, Ad Nauseam). These 3 card slots are much better used by Duress, Spell Pierce, Negate, or Dispel since they cover the same matchups and more for a lower cmc.
Thieving Sprite: They're okay, but I wouldn't play more than 2 of them. This is another example of a card whose function can be covered by a lower cmc card (Duress). Also, Earwig Squad is a really good card in the control matchups since you can search their deck to preemptively take out removal or win conditions, and it can't be hit by Fatal Push.
Notorious Throng: To answer your question, no, the card can definitely be worth it in single player formats. Especially if you're pitting this deck up against a Standard deck. In fact, I would totally play three of them in the main if I knew I was playing against a Standard deck. But putting that aside, the card is very good in midrange matchups, like Jund and them. It's very difficult for black-based midrange to deal with tokens because of their reliance on one-for-one removal; a card that makes a bunch of tokens that fly and occasionally force discards is crazy good against them. Not to mention the Prowl ability on it. shiver
As for the other cards in your list, I think Thieves' Fortune, Latchkey Faerie, and Faerie Macabre are the best of the bunch (that's why they're in the original deck, haha). Macabre is a great graveyard hate card, and Latchkey is very good if you want to take the deck along a more aggressive path; creatures that cantrip, like Silvergill Adept and Elvish Visionary, have always been a staple of their respective tribe archetypes. The only thing that makes me particularly hesitant about playing Faerie Seer, Thornwind Faeries, Sower of Temptation, or Faerie Formation is the fact that they don't have the Rogue creature type. Putting them in the deck can lead to inconsistencies, and when two of the three lords only work with Rogues, I would rather not risk it. Of those, I think Sower has the best chance of being a decent sideboard card (because it is one). Don't play Faerie Formation. Its cmc is too high and its ability uses too much mana.
But honestly, if you think any of those cards would be good includes for their competitive value or flavor or whatnot and you think your daughter might think so too, I say just buy them (if possible) so you and your daughter can play around with numbers yourselves. That's what I did when I bought the deck (I have a set of Latchkey and a set of Cloak and Dagger that have fallen to the wayside lol). When you're trying to decide how best to build a deck, a question which has no definitive answer imo, buying cards like that saves a lot of time; the process of optimizing/customizing a deck to be your own is also a fun activity in itself. But if you want to take my opinion one more time, I believe the best way to navigate the details is to ask your daughter which cards she wants to play with herself, since at the end of the day she's the one whose opinion really matters!
Anyways, I'm really glad your daughter's happy! Have fun with the deck!!!
1 year ago
Hi, I modified the list a bit (not because I think there's anything wrong with it but simply because the deck is for my 10y.o. daughter to bash my son ^_^ I'm not gonna spend 80/90 bucks for that!) Can I ask you what do you think of it?
- 4*Changeling Outcast
- 4*Faerie Miscreant
- 4*Nightshade Stinger
- 4*Oona's Blackguard
- 4*Quickling (to recover other creatures with interesting ETB effects)
- 4*Spellstutter Sprite
- 4*Scion of Oona
- 3*Silkbind Faerie (like Pestermite but permanently on the battlefield)
- 4*Stinkdrinker Bandit
- 2*Faerie Tauntings (to go with all those Flash creatures and instants)
- 4*Faerie Trickery
- 2*Faerie Conclave
- 2*Secluded Glen
- 4*Unclaimed Territory
- 3*Peppersmoke (against Swarm/Jund/etc.)
- 3*Hypnotic Sprite
- // Mesmeric Glare (protection from Combo or Burn)
- 4*Thieving Sprite (for Control)
- 3*Morsel Theft (to recover from Aggro)
- 2*Notorious Throng (is this worth only in multiplayers?)
Also, what do you think of any of the following? Would they be worth including?
- Faerie Seer or Thieves' Fortune (to manipulate my draw)
- Thornwind Faeries (nice utility ability)
- Latchkey Faerie (I don't know why but I like it, with the cantrip and whatnot)
- Faerie Macabre
- Sower of Temptation (seems interesting with big beasts decks)
- Faerie Formation (to help growing the field) My problem is that I wouldn't know what to sub them for -.-
Anyway, she's so happy to finally have her Faeries that you shouldn't be surprised to receive a parchment starting you received a vote to become the next Arch-Chancellor of the Unseen University ^_~
1 year ago
Hey xaarvaxus Nice thanks man, I forgot about Supreme Will but that is a great suggestion! I'm definitely not running Thieves' Fortune for the prowl cost haha. It's just another instant speed cantrip that can setup my Tunnel Vision , so getting a mana leak attached to it would definitely be a plus.
The Chainer suggestion is interesting, I have to think about that one. The plan is to win on one trigger of Gray Merchant in combination with my other creatures' triggers. All my other black creatures punish my opponents for having creatures ETB from my Living Death and deal additional damage as a result.
1 year ago
Thieves' Fortune could be upgraded with Supreme Will . Essentially the same cost as the chance of triggering prowl is almost non-existent, has the Impulse effect you are looking for plus you have another potential [weak] counterspell in the decklist.
A couple of non-creature permanents to add to your devotion could be useful here; No Mercy , Phyrexian Arena and/or Necropotence or a mono-black planeswalker like Ob Nixilis Reignited . Sorry these aren't the most budget of suggestions...
1 year ago
I think two copies of Bitterblossom is right for this deck. My logic is this: Bitterblossom is the type of card that benefits from long games since it can pile up value, but it's really slow. Your removal package isn't good enough to keep you going into the late game and BB is worse than a card that gives you an immediate body when you get the Stinkdrinker Bandit hands, so you don't want to draw it every game. Plus, you have 4 Thieves' Fortune to Impulse through your deck when you do need it, so going down to 2 will cut down on the clunky hands with minimal downside.
But to be honest, that's just a gut feeling. This is coming from a person who's been playing Faerie Rogue Tribal pretty much since he got into magic though so there's that. Fun deck!
2 years ago
You're welcome. I forgot to mention this, but is there a reason you're not playing Oona's Blackguard? It's quite nuts with Notorious Throng and the discard ability on it isn't irrelevant. You'd need more one-drops to make it really good though.
While I'm on the topic of good cards, Pestermite is one of my favorite rogues, and personally I think it's better than Latchkey Faerie. It has one less attack but makes up for it with more flexibility; it can untap a land which lets you play more cards, tap a blocker, tap an opponent's land, etc. Thieves' Fortune and Morsel Theft are enough for card draw, I'd say.