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Flayer of the Hatebound
Creature — Devil
Undying (When this creature dies, if it had no +1/+1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it.
Whenever Flayer of the Hatebound or another creature enters the battlefield from your graveyard, that creature deals damage equal to its power to target creature or player.
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Flayer of the Hatebound Discussion
4 days ago
Flayer of the Hatebound is a surprisingly good card that was used in Legacy manaless dredge, but could shine here too.
1 week ago
Darth_Savage hey sorry I didn't realise that you were supposed to comment on decks page. if you read my comment you will find I reviewed the deck above me and made some suggestions on the comment I posted on the forum rather than on the actual deck. Im pretty annoyed that Careful Study isn't modern legal, I was going to trade into and buy up pieces of the deck so im glad you told me before it was too late. You are probably right about Sphinx of the Steel Wind as well. I hadn't seen Flayer of the Hatebound before and im very glad you pointed it out. Overall, thanks for the suggestions, you have definitely improved the deck and sorry about "calling you out" on the forum I probably should have checked the comments of decks above me.
1 week ago
Hi Asder, I found my way here from the advertise-your-modern-deck forum page...
First off, Careful Study isn't modern legal, heck, Ponder and Preordain are banned, though we all hope one of them comes off the list, maybe this month (probably not). So in blue maybe Magus of the Bazaar , which your opponent will likely remove before you get to use it...
Dragonlord Kolaghan, is a solid reanimation target as are Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Void Winnower and Iona, Shield of Emeria These all impact the board in some way the turn they come into play Sphinx of the Steel Wind, is nice, but has no impact that turn. Off the top of my head; Massacre Wurm , Hellkite Overlord , Architects of Will , Torgaar, Famine Incarnate , Flayer of the Hatebound , Tyrant of Discord or Ashen Rider have an impact on the board state the turn they enter play, they are of variable quality, but I'd rather see them than Sphinx of the Steel Wind, which does nothing without Kolaghan.
The other issue I see here is that you are either taking a mulligan or looting to find As Foretold, which is key, but how often will you have to tutor (Tolaria West) for a last ditch As Fortold via a lucky Ancestral Vision? More to the point, what is keeping you alive against fast aggro? The deck you based this on had Hollow One , but your looting spells won't work with it, maybe if you ran 4x Darkness , maybe you could survive and combo off... Lasty point on your deck, I'd up your land count to 18, maybe 2x Darkslick Shores ?
Now for a separate point, as I said, I found my way here from the advertise-your-modern-deck forum page. I recently posted a deck (Power 4 is Ferocious) there, after reviewing Chadnausem Control on the decks page. 2 When you post, you must offer feedback on the deck posted immediately before yours (leave the feedback on that deck's page). This feedback needs to be genuine; "Cool deck" replies don't count. Try to be as helpful as possible. You did not do this, Vannifar&Kiki's devotted PØD has no comment from yourself, so it's a little off to complain about others not following the rules, when actually they have...
I hope this feedback helps, good luck with your brew.
3 weeks ago
Sparrowfan101, thank you for your comments and suggestions. I've been playing commander for over 6 years now and played with this deck countless times against other extremely competitive decks such as Teferi, Temporal Archmage, Thrasios, Triton Hero, and Narset, Enlightened Master.
Surprisingly, this deck holds up very well, and will win by a large margin. Most competitive decks win by abusing their commander's ability early game. My deck prevents them from doing so.
In general, I would agree with you that the avg. CMC does need to be heavily considered and be on the low end of the scale. But for this deck, I would make an exception. A lot of the high CMC cards in this deck are for mid-late game control/wincons. And I never have any issues with that, since this deck likes to shut down early game strategies.
I'm not considering this deck to be a tier one deck, but I do think its pretty high up there. In regards to my win combos, they happen almost every game. I have enough draw/searches whereby it is very consistent in how it wins/functions. The win cons specifically are actually not that complicated. The infinite turn combo is, at minimum, a three card combo. And using Omniscience + Enter the Infinite is just a two card combo. Most of the time, I will draw/search for a Pact of Negation and other counterspells to prevent others from shutting down the combo. This pretty much always assures the win.
Once I can play the entire deck (using either of the combos), I can use the infinite turns to deal infinite damage by either hitting players with creatures every turn (if they have creatures I could always board wipe and refresh the board) or by dealing damage everyturn with one of the following cards:
Sorin Markov's +2
Build up Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker and keep using his -9
Flayer of the Hatebound + Sac Outlet + Marchesa
Also, you mentioned that using Jace would kill him within three turns. That would be true if I needed to bounce Archaeomancer EVERY turn. But since I am using Time Stretch, I don't need to bounce Archaeomancer every turn. So I can simply use Jace's -1 ability every OTHER turn, making sure to use his +2 ability between those turns.
Just based on my experience, and what this deck has been through, I'm still willing to call this a competitive deck.
3 weeks ago
Quick thoughts, first I'd suggest this deck needs 4 copies of Footsteps of the Goryo, and maybe a couple of Unburial Rites, giving you a reanimator shell, I'd cut Starfield of Nyx, not sure what else. Second Flayer of the Hatebound should replace Ravenous Chupacabra, mostly because it has Undying, turns Accursed Witch into a bolt and if you have the chance to reanimate Greater Gargadon, ouch. Lastly Semblance Anvil might be a better way of reducing your costs, since the type Enchantment Creature exist as does the mechanic Constellation and this is basically an enchantment deck, so maybe Underworld Coinsmith or Grim Guardian? You would need four of both Anvil and whichever dual type card you fancy, but you could cut Heartless Summoning for sure...
As I said, quick thoughts, hope they are helpful, good luck with your brew...
3 weeks ago
Flayer of the Hatebound for reach and added oomph for our etb's (you can always target yourself too, I've done it several times.).
Vindictive Lich is probably my favorite death trigger to abuse especially with Metallic Mimic.
Midnight Reaper for Grim Haruspex #2.
Spellskite can redirect the same spell on the stack as many times as needed to get off the throne. Using it legitimately is nice too lol.
1 month ago
You 100% need Flayer of the Hatebound in here... the interaction with infect is disgusting. 'That creature deals damage equal to its power to target player'. Infect creatures coming back from Marchesa will hit players with infect damage lol.
Feel free to check out my deck for more ideas. It's not infect but should still give you plenty of ideas for non-creature spells in Marchesa. He who controls the Spice controls the Spice Girls. Feedback, upvotes, and/or ideas on any of my decklists is appreciated.
1 month ago
I don't really consider this a lifegain deck so Aetherflux Reservoir and Felidar Soverign aren't as good as they otherwise might be. Also I don't have that much recursion so no Flayer of the Hatebound