Whenever a Knight you control attacks, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
, Sacrifice Knights' Charge: Return all Knight creature cards from your graveyard to the battlefield.
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|Throne of Eldraine (ELD)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Knights' Charge Discussion
2 weeks ago
2 months ago
Emearq, thank's for taking the time to return the favor. You're insights on my deck are absolutely correct. It is a fun deck to play around with, and I did sacrifice the knight tribal for a more interactive game plan. At one point my deck looked alot more like yours than this, and I even dropped the Sunforger from a previous build.
As for the low count of knights and the interactions with The Circle of Loyalty and Knights' Charge, the charge is probably going to be the first out, as of right now it mostly serves as a replacement to the life loss, and it doesn't hurt to push a little more damage in on the attack. However, I think you maybe missing the value that The Circle of Loyalty. It doesn't just care about knights. It cares about legendary as well. I've got 14 spells that trigger the token generation. I may have to rethink it though, as I used to have a few more legendary spells in the deck.
Also, keep in mind, Gywn's draw ability doesn't look for knights equiped, just creatures equiped.
2 months ago
Hey, thanks for taking the time to comment on my own deck and for sharing your list with me. Regarding the below comments, these are mostly my thoughts on the 'feel' of the deck list and not a list of suggestions or recommended changes - I really don't have the experience or the insight to properly suggest to anyone how they should build their decks!
Firstly, deck is really cool (love token creature themes in general) and certainly has plenty of interaction and pieces to work together such as the planeswalkers and flexible cards like the Single Combat, Dawn of Hope and Sun Titan. With Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord offering lifelink and Gideon, Ally of Zendikar and Gideon Blackblade attacking comparatively freely must be good fun to get out swinging at whomever you please early into the game.
However, and this is from a purely personal level (& a new player at that who's opinion should not be held with much weight) it just feels that given up much of the knight tribal theme/fantasy itself that Syr Gwyn, Hero of Ashvale enables to get the value cards (things like the Heavenly Blademaster, Stoneforge Mystic and Stonehewer Giant (which is a really strong card I hadn't seen before).
Granted there are several cards that produce knights i.e (Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, Righteous Confluence etc) but with only 10 knight cards themselves cards like The Circle of Loyalty and especially Knights' Charge just don't seem like they will pack the same punch most games (unless you get to go wild with Knight tokens of course!). Obviously have more experience playing it but my concern as an outsider would be that there would not be enough targets to get the card drawing value out of Syr Gwyn, Hero of Ashvale to keep momentum on the attack as the game goes on. Perhaps that's now how it plays out in reality however.
Again, just my own thoughts and would love to see how you get on with this different take on a Syr Gwyn build.
Best of luck in your games!
2 months ago
Woah, holy knights.
Okay. So. first thing is first. Obviously, we are going knights tribal. The second thing to think about is what is it's theme. You said you want to go King Arthur. Honestly, King Kenrith makes for a better King Arthur deck. But, we're working with Syr Gwynn, so, we are more focusing on the Knights of King Arthur.
Are you wanting more of a knight heavy creature based deck, or equipment based deck. in my deck Valiant Knights of Eldraine, I focused more on a split of equipment and knights giving me 13 equipment and a total of 11 knights including Syr Gywn and 6 non knight creatures. Now, I've built my deck to try to be as powerful as I possibly can make it. What I'm going to suggest below is more flavor and theme based.
I think a cool direction to take this would be focusing on the Legendary theme, after all King Arthur is the most legendary legend of all time. And there is a perfect card that is knightly and legendary centered and it is, The Circle of Loyalty. For each knight already on the field, it costs one less. And when it is on the the field, for each legendary spell you cast, it creates a knight, and lets you sink some unused mana into making another knight.
Okay, we have our legendary theme. Let's round this out with some legendary weapons (think Excalibur) and legendary knights. Most renderings of King Arthur has anywhere from 12-15 knights at his table. I say we go somewhere in between and pick 13 legendary knights. Looking at the gatherer, I see a total of 31 legendary knights, but only 24 possible in our colors. I'd wittle it down to these 13 knights and 1 dragon. Adriana, Captain of the Guard, Arvad the Cursed, Aryel, Knight of Windgrace, Balan, Wandering Knight, Danitha Capashen, Paragon, Josu Vess, Lich Knight, Kwende, Pride of Femeref, Lena, Selfless Champion, Sylvia Brightspear and her dragon buddy Khorvath Brightflame, Syr Gywn, Hero of Ashvale, Syr Konrad, the Grim, Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor, and Vona, Butcher of Magan.
Next, I would put in an equipment for each of the knights. So, 13 equipments. Keeping with the legendary theme, there are 18 legendary equipments. My choices for the 13 to use are Blackblade Reforged, Elbrus, the Binding Blade Flip, Embercleave, Godsend, Helm of Kaldra, Sword of Kaldra, Shield of Kaldra, Helm of the Host, Konda's Banner, Shadowspear, Sword of the Animist, Tenza, Godo's Maul, and Tatsumasa, the Dragon's Fang.
So far that is a total of 28 legendary cards. You're going to want between 35 and 38 lands in this deck, I'd personally go with 36 bringing the total up to 64 leaving 46 spaces. Out of those 46 spaces, I'd want atleast another 10 ramp spells so, I'd look into Tithe, Weathered Wayfarer, Knight of the White Orchid, Arcane Signet, Boros Signet, Orzhov Signet, Rakdos Signet, Talisman of Conviction, Talisman of Hierarchy, and Talisman of Indulgence.
With the 36 spaces left, we probably want some card draw and tutors to get our knights equipment. Knights of the Black Rose, Puresteel Paladin, Stoneforge Mystic, Stonehewer Giant, Enlightened Tutor, Open the Armory, Steelshaper's Gift, Scheming Symmetry, Herald's Horn, Icon of Ancestry, and Vanquisher's Banner are all really good here giving us 11 options to dig, leaving us with 25 spots left.
Can't forget removal. I'd personally go with 7 single target and 4 board wipes. Those being Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares, Crackling Doom, Utter End, Righteous Confluence, Return to Dust, Rakdos Charm, Wrath of God, Single Combat, and Tragic Arrogance.
With the remainder of the 15 spots, I would fill it with some utility and cards to push through for the win. Here I would look into Knights' Charge, Master Warcraft, War Flare, Boros Charm, Unbreakable Formation, Heavenly Blademaster, Knight Exemplar, Leonin Shikari, Silverwing Squadron, Nahiri, Storm of Stone, Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord, Bloodforged Battle-Axe, Sunforger, and Sigiled Sword of Valeron.
This should be a pretty well rounded and focused deck, or at least a path for you to take if you so choose.
5 months ago
@Canamex Not really. The only issue where it hurts not to have low CMC creatures is if they remove all your land and creatures at the same time. Like with Jokulhaups , but this rarely happens and usually your opponents will be in the same boat with you.
1 CMC creatures I'd only run if they're ridiculously impressive or have an effect that can't be gotten from a bigger creature. For example I wouldn't run Dauntless Bodyguard , because if you play them first they're practically a 2/1 with nothing special about them. Instead I'd run Changeling Outcast over him as you would have an unblockable knight you could dump all your equipment on. If the indestructibility really matters to you I'd run Kindred Boon instead, but that might be a better card to swap out over Knights' Charge . The indestructibility would make it harder to wipe your creatures off the board after all.
7 months ago
Hey, nice start. Cards to consider cutting to make 99:
- Bond of Discipline
- Campaign of Vengeance
- Venser's Journal
- Stoneforge Masterwork
- Dowsing Dagger
- Belle of the Brawl
- Brimstone Trebuchet
- Burnished Hart
- Icon of Ancestry
- Words of Worship
- Goblin War Drums
- Door of Destinies
- Whispersilk Cloak
I think rather than aggressive overrun the battlefield with Knights instead play ones that are good with equipment who have evasion, more of a midrange strategy. I suggest this because there's a lot of equipment here which is taking the place of Knights and equipment are midrange cards. I think if you want to play an aggressive overrun strategy with Knights that you want to reduce the amount of equipment and increase the amount of low mana cost Knights especially two drops such as Knight of Grace , Knight of Malice , Stormfist Crusader , etc.
Cards within the budget to consider adding:
- Gamble : tutor for any card.
- Open the Armory : tutor for an equipment.
- Silverblade Paladin : double strike is good with equipment.
- Mirran Crusader : double strike.
- Sunforger : one of the best equipment in Commander and being able to consistently reduce the equip cost to 0 is good.
- Gideon, Ally of Zendikar : 0 creates a 2/2 Knight, -4 can be a repeatable anthem. Gideon holds equipment well.
- Gideon Blackblade : nonfoil version is $6, +1 is very good with creature strategies, -6 is exile removal.
- Sun Titan : repeatable reanimation of a Knight or three drop or less equipment/enchantment. Can reanimate History of Benalia or Knights' Charge .
- Mistveil Plains
- Caves of Koilos
- Battlefield Forge
- Exotic Orchard
- Ash Barrens
- Isolated Chapel
- Clifftop Retreat
Cards to consider cutting:
- Temple of the False God
- Terramorphic Expanse
- 5x Plains
- Embereth Shieldbreaker
- Order of Midnight
- Foulmire Knight
- Vanquisher's Banner
- Basilisk Collar
- Cathars' Crusade
- Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord
Good luck with your deck.
7 months ago
Here's some more suggestions: Steely Resolve , Knights' Charge ?, Zombie Apocalypse ?, Crux of Fate , Nissa Revane , Whelming Wave , Merrow Commerce , Graf Harvest ?, Rooftop Storm ? (Jodah is better in this circumstance), Repel the Abominable , Gilt-Leaf Archdruid
This one was too funny not to mention: Grim Captain's Call
Possibly more coming soon.
7 months ago
Add: Wayfarer's Bauble Sword of the Animist Solemn Simulacrum Burnished Hart Smothering Tithe Despark Kaya's Wrath Knights' Charge Etchings of the Chosen Irregular Cohort Silent Clearing Talisman of Hierarchy Belle of the Brawl Murderous Rider Silverwing Squadron Smitten Swordmaster Syr Alin, the Lion's Claw The Circle of Loyalty Wintermoor Commander Corpse Knight Midnight Reaper Cavalier of Dawn Cavalier of Night Icon of Ancestry Haakon, Stromgald Scourge
Remove: Temple of the False God Myriad Landscape Plains Swamp Mortify Call the Cavalry Harsh Mercy Return to the Ranks Shared Triumph Northern Paladin Eastern Paladin Kwende, Pride of Femeref Southern Paladin Student of Warfare Stromgald Cabal Knight of Glory Knight of Infamy White Knight Black Knight Knight of Grace Knight of Malice Paladin en-Vec Dauntless Bodyguard Odric, Lunarch Marshal Commander's Sphere