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- Winding constrictor and walking ballista
- How does Winding Constrictor and Energy counters work?
- Infinite counters with winding constrictor?
- If I cast Altered Ego X=1 and copy a Winding Constrictor, does the Altered Ego enter with one counter or two?
- How many counters will Ghave, Guru of Spores receive with all of the following on the battlefield...
Creature — Snake
If one or more counters would be placed on an artifact or creature you control, that many counters plus one are placed that permanent instead.
If you would get one or more counters you get that many of those counters plus one instead.
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Winding Constrictor Discussion
1 day ago
No Spore Frog ? And if you like indirect lifeloss you should think about putting Gray Merchant of Asphodel he can take people down fast. Ecspecially with Strionic Resonator which can also help up experience counters it being back two creatures. Winding Constrictor is also a great two drop to double her experience counters. I have a meren deck you can check out too. Just suggestions (:
2 days ago
You can accomplish the same effect with Winding Constrictor+Decoction Module+Fabrication Module+Aethergeode Miner and by adding Black and Green you get better removal (cough Fatal Push cough) and access to protection for your combo pieces like Blossoming Defense or Heroic Intervention. this will reduce the total cost of the combo from 12 mana across 5 pieces to 10 mana across 5 pieces.
3 days ago
Just a reminder about the combo with Consulate Turret+Winding Constrictor+Fabrication Module still only equals one +1/+1 counter counter for a target (which does turn to two because of snake). While you do generate 2 energy, the mechanics of the game see it as energy being generated from one source. This is because the Winding Constrictor makes the source that generates the counter generate an extra. The snake itself is not adding anything to the card itself to give you an extra trigger for Fabrication Module. So the combo itself does not seem that strong to me which is why I was suggesting other cards over it.
While you are correct that the Walking Ballista does take a little effort to make it bigger over time. It is a very strong mid game card as it can come into play killing off small creatures, being spun up when you don't have anything to play to shoot the players face or more creatures, and even benefits greatly whenever you use Fabrication Module to place more counters on it. This creature is one of the few that you can still punish your opponent for trying to remove by pulling its counters in response to do damage before it is killed. There are a number of reasons why this is an amazing card and why it is played in every version of the b/g snake deck that you can look up for tournament play. If you don't like the feel of the card then its as simple as that though.
Land suggestion still highly recommended.
3 days ago
I'm lost as to what Winding Constrictor offers this deck. The ability only procs when the -1/-1 counters are placed upon your creatures (i.e. Ammit Eternal & Walking Ballista). I seriously doubt we want Ammit to die faster nor would we place Hepatra's counters on our creatures. So... I'd swap out the constrictor and ballista since they have little synergy with the deck.
3 days ago
Thanks for the feedback it is appreciated. Honestly i used Walking Ballista before Gifted Aetherborn and had little success with it. Walking Ballista you have to pump it up from the begining and have to keep pumping it up to do something. With Gifted Aetherborn it comes in 2/3 and with deathtouch, alot of opponents won't touch it or just avoid losing a creature. Consulate Turret for me puts a little extra counters when used with Winding Constrictor and Fabrication Module to form a good combo. Prowling Serpopard and Rhonas the Indomitable are the two cards i would trade out for something.
4 days ago
So I've been playing meren for a long time and if you have ever played against a token deck you will know how you can get slaughtered. Definitely include token killers such as Virulent Plague ( this will not only defeat tokens but also cards like khalitas that kill merens graveyard and create tokens) and Archfiend of Depravity which will keep them down to two creatures with makes it easier to make them sacrifice. You also should put in Gray Merchant of Asphodel that card is a game winner. Caustic Caterpillar is also a great utilty creature as it will stop people from putting out enchantments like Grave Pact. Speaking of that enchantment, Dictate of Erebos and Butcher of Malakir would also be a good addition. as well as Slum Reaper to help out the sacrificing. If you like doubling your counters early on Winding Constrictor and Strionic Resonator have proven great. Just some suggestions. (: You can look at my meren deck for other suggestions if you like these.
6 days ago
A few options that you might consider, in mostly decreasing order of how good I think they're likely to be:
- Eternal Witness is a great card in Meren. Fetches whatever you need and you're always happy to sac it.
- Evolutionary Leap lets you sacrifice without inate card disadvantage
- Smothering Abomination fills a similar role to Evo Leap, but on a pretty good flying body.
- Hermit Druid may be better than Silverglade Pathfinder since it can fill your graveyard. It doesn't ramp, but it has a very low opportunity cost.
- Thragtusk gives value going in and out, and the extra token to chump/sac is pretty nice.
- Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip flips easily and can help empty your opponents' hands
- It That Betrays is super expensive and maybe kind of impractical, but it can also just win on its own. Also steals fetchlands, which is nice.
You could likely make room by removing some ETB sac effects or sac effects that don't provide card advantage (Viscera Seer, Stronghold Assassin, Slum Reaper, etc). Winding Constrictor is likely cuttable (I have to imagine you get enough XP to do what you need without it). Custodi Lich is probably just less efficient than other stuff at 5 mana.
This is definitely the most all-in Meren deck I've seen in terms of creature count, though. Pretty cool list, thanks for posting.
6 days ago
I find this list to be intriguing. I have built a Jund version utilizing The Scorpion God and Glorybringers to close the game out. The Winding Constrictor + Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons is an interesting piece of tech, but after reading through the comments, it should not trigger twice unless you are putting the -1/-1 counters on a creature you control, Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons reads that "one or more counters are placed", you get a snake. So having the Winding Constrictor put a second counter on your creature with only a Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons in play doesn't really do you any good. I understand the synergy with the Nest of Scarabs, but Hapatra seems like a big non-bo. I just feel like the deck is doing too many battling things at once to really be as effective as I'd like it to be. I'll keep an eye out, I'm curious to see how your results look with the list.