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Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord
Legendary Planeswalker — Sorin
As long as it's your turn, creatures and planeswalkers you control have lifelink.
+2: Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord deals 1 damage to target player or planeswalker.
-X: Return target creature with converted mana cost X from your graveyard to the battlefield. That creature is a Vampire in addition to its other types.
Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord Discussion
1 week ago
In: Cruel Celebrant
I want to increase my vampire count. Exquisite Blood is really strong, but it's a 5 mana enchantment which does nothing when it hits the board. There are other cards in this deck with the same flaw. But I felt like choosing to cut this one for Cruel Celebrant is the best way to go, since the main purpose of Cruel Celebrant is to drain some life.
In: Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord
Tutors are huge and powerful. But I want to tune this deck a bit down for now. The abilitys of Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord are really strong too, even though it's not tutoring, it helps to pump your vampires and cheat mana.
In: Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord
I liked Oversold Cemetery 's effect, but it was really situational. Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord can bring creatures back and buff your vampires. That's why I switched them out, since Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord is increasing the value of our vampires.
1 week ago
championeggo thank you for commenting. I'll check out your deck list once I pull some cards out of mine. My question in response to your comment, though, is why remove the vampiric cards? Specifically Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord , Corrupt + Tendrils of Agony , and Consume Spirit + Death Grasp
3 weeks ago
Seems like a big planeswalker suite. I am generally not a fan of too many planeswalkers in commander decks unless they are really support a path to our wincon. Individually, they are all good cards, but I think you could pull at least 3 of them and get more token advantage with Teysa. For example, Ogre Slumlord , Pawn of Ulamog , Requiem Angel would all be solid adds. Personally, I'd get this deck down to 2-3 planeswalkers. Elspeth, Sun's Champion is an auto-include. Liliana, Dreadhorde General would be better than any other Liliana in the deck. For that last planeswalker spot I'd pick a Sorin - either Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord or Sorin, Lord of Innistrad would work very well. All, IMO, of course :).
1 month ago
two of these drop tokens on death, and one does damage. We can also add in Seraph of the Scales for a total of three creatures to sacrifice.
1 month ago
First of all I ofcourse don't know what your budget is. These cards I mentioned are in the higher price range, but unfortunately not on any reserved list and very easy to trade :) But fair enough if you don't want to spend that amount of cash on them!
To respond to your responses :)
The nim deathmantle I think is an auto include in any teysa deck, we play orzhov and we run out of a hand eventually. To use your turns to start looping stuff on the battlefield is pretty good. Nim is a real enabler in that way also an engine for your drain effects.
It felt exactly like that with the wurmcoil and the walker ;) The slumlord is really good, he often provides quite a lot of tokens and that's what teysa wants :) What's your plan with the Sandsower ? Cause if you only run it to untap Whisper, Blood Liturgist then I would just run another recursion effect instead of such a niche card... What about Dread Return , Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord , Chainer, Dementia Master are all very affordable recursion effects :-)
Vindictive Vampire I would just run in addition too, tbh. IF you really want to go towards the Aristocrats style! Lily I can totally understand. The standard meta still hasn't settled and therefor it's still uncertain if she will see play or not. I think as soon as that happens we'll know if she goes up or down. Nontheless it is a reaaaally powerfull card. Sorin is criminally underrated and in a aristocrats deck an absolute powerhouse and much better than the token generator sorin... Almost all your creatures are cmc 3 or less, wich means Sorin will fetch them out of your graveyard the turn he enters + the lifelink is a really nice addition as well. Gives you space to run for example Command the Dreadhorde or Bolas's Citadel . The ping effect I often use to ping a planeswalker, next to this it's on +2 so he grows big fast. I rarely draw him and go well this is completely useless right now...
Since Orzhov lack proper card draw like blue has, I would run Yawgmoth and lily tbh. They are both that good, but being on a budget Yawgmoth will probably do more for us.
Let me know how the Aetherworks Marvel works out for you! I have it in my binder as well and im curious about it!
DH i would keep out of your deck unless you play at a 75%+ powerlevel table. Otherwise it will ruin the more casual pods and it won't be fun for anyone. But that's the nice thing, see it more as a kill switch you can dump in your deck increasing the powerlevel of you deck quite a lot.
My bad about the draw then, it was late and I was about to get to bed, think I just overlooked them :-) Midnight Reaper I still need to get as well, I have one and it's in my Meren deck.... I have 2 bolas's Citadel's in my binder, but no idea what to cut for it in my list (you can always take a quick peek if you want to see if you have some ideas?)
I think what is almost more important than sac outlets are the recursion effects. It really is the engine of the deck. I play around 8-9 effects and a ton of card draw to get too them. Again Orzhov is not the fastest color when it comes to ramp, so we go midgame fast, and there we see out other problem. Going into the midcame empty handed is killing or not having a recursion effect on the field is also terrible to bring back out dead... As long as we can Recur our creatures we are good to go. That's why I'm no fan of Whisper/Ravos, they are creatures. People like to play boardwipes/spotremoval so often they won't survive. Putting your recursion on any other slot is better than a creature. If you are low on sac fodder than whisper is a horrible recursion effect because you need 2(!!) creatures to recur one thin. In my opinion Chainer/Victimize/Dread Return are all better because if they can drag your Sun Titan out of your grave the moment it resolves you have gass again :) Whisper and Ravos both need to wait an entire round wich is quite long to stay alive!
1 month ago
Also I run more Blood Artist effects, so Vindictive Vampire and Pious Evangel Flip. These effects are basically your wincon if you don't go onto the Darkest Hour tour. It makes people think again about playing a board wipe and gives more value to your boardwipes when you play them if needed.
And ofcourse from modern horizons the new Yawgmoth, Thran Physician sack outlet and card draw and removal, it's basically everything orzhov wants...
At one point I cut Divine Visitation as well, since I found it too mana intensive and often to reliant on having a boardstate. Wich often can be a bit of a problem, since Teysa draws sooooo much hate. (wich is understandable) I replaced it for more recursion.
I do like your addition of Living Death and I'm gonna give it a go with that card as well. Since we mostly exile threats, I don't think whatever comes back is that much of a problem for us :)
And about darkest hour. It's up to you if you want to play it, it takes the deck from a nice deck to play against to full on combo. I kinda like that, I have the card and depending what powerlevel I'm up against I put it in or not. It's like a switch you can turn on and off. ".Darkest Hour I feel will need to be slotted in eventually for combo potential, but I gotta have something to combo it with, whether its Altar of Dementia or a Blood Artist like effect." - You already play it hahah. You just need teysa and a sac outlet and your done. One of the altars means infinite mana, Dementia is everyone is milled, one of the blood artists and everyone is dead, Gravepact/dictate the board is empty, Carrion Feeder is infinite big, Viscera Seer you scry for your wincon. And even without Darkest Hour that is why you want to run more of these blood artist effects and recursion to keep your guys on the board.
Also....where is your card draw? It feels like your gonna fall into the orzhov trap wich is being without a hand and without enough recursion you will slow down quite fast and the other decks will get the upper hand. 1 Midnight Reaper and 1 Grim Haruspex are not enough to stay dangerous..
Hope these tips will help you a bit
And otherwise if you want this is my decklist with what I play: Teysa, Orzhov Scion: a Dance Macabre
1 month ago
the basic identity of the deck is ping for 1 life and i gain 1 life. i like the Luminous Bonds because it stops amass decks also it really works in arena. i build this deck in arena and so far pretty good. i built around Epicure of Blood Sanctum Seeker and Cruel Celebrant they tend to stack really nice. i only threw in the Legion Lieutenant to boost Call to the Feast with the others. i rarely ever win by hitting and opponent with creatures but by the act of chump attacking while the Cruel Celebrant is out. if i get lucky and have all 3 out they combo really nice. I have added Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord and Conclave Tribunal great suggestions btw! really bring shit up a notch. i have been going to the dragons refuge in Kankakee, but only on Sunday(for fnm) lol. they have a lot of players play commander on Friday and so i have drove over there multiple times only to get "not enough players tonight" from the dude there. He said that they do standard on Sundays at 2pm so i was going to try that. really good crowd there. Kristi and I went last Saturday to the pre-release and had a blast. not too serious players just a lot of "older" people having fun. Not sure if i can sneak out this Sunday but i was going to try. need to get some more modern horizons packs to pull a damn Urza! i did get a Yagamoth and a Sierra so i am not too mad but i need that Urza dammit!
1 month ago
ok i see what you are saying, i have the Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord but don't have the oath. i had no clue on the conclave tribunal. nice! i did pretty dece with it on fnm but i need to update i removed the zelots and the champion i thought they slowed down the deck but i was sitting there turn 8 with no cards in hand. really bad situation. i need to get her going quick or build up a solid defense. i tried Ill-Gotten Inheritance and used it as a win a few times but i think it is more of a side board card. thank you for the tips man
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