|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|2012 Core Set (M12)||Uncommon|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Uncommon|
|Duels of the Planeswalkers (DPA)||Uncommon|
|2010 Core Set (M10)||Uncommon|
|Duel Decks: Divine vs. Demonic (DDC)||Uncommon|
|Tenth Edition (10E)||Uncommon|
|Ninth Edition (9ED)||Uncommon|
|Ninth Edition Foreign Black Border (9EDFBB)||Uncommon|
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Whenever a player casts a black spell, you may gain 1 life.
Demon's Horn Discussion
3 weeks ago
Out of consideration:
2 months ago
Delay specifically grants the spell suspend and gives it counters. When the last time counter is removed, it'll be cast again, triggering anything that looks for when spells are cast, and allowing different modes to be chosen. Additionally, Delay will trigger things like Baral, Chief of Compliance that look for spells being countered, while Ertai's Meddling doesn't actually counter the spell.
If your opponent uses Ertai's Meddling on your Charm, with X=3, then you exile it with 3 delay counters on it. At the beginning of each of your upkeeps, you remove a delay counter, and when you remove the last, you move Golgari Charm back to the stack copying the previous choices made. You aren't casting it, so Demon's Horn doesn't trigger, and since it's copying the previous version, you can't choose one of the other two modes, only destroying a target enchantment.
Now let's say your opponent used Delay instead. It's countered, first off, so something like Baral will trigger. Second, it's exiled with three time counters and gains suspend. Again, you remove counters at the beginning of each of your upkeeps, and when the last is removed, you cast the spell without paying its mana cost. You can choose a new mode and/or new targets, and it will trigger Demon's Horn again.
If your spell was Bond of Agony instead of Golgari Charm , then Ertai's Meddling allows it back on the stack with whatever value of X you'd previously used. Delay , on the other hand, makes you cast it without paying its mana cost, which means X must be 0.
4 months ago
ShaperSavant totally agree with you on that. It's just a lot of your card choices feel 1vs1, like Cremate But I could be wrong ofcourse, you know how your deck works! I do like Prism Ring never seen that card. Might have to give Demon's Horn and the white version of it a chance as well :)
Is there a reason you run so few protection effects btw? Mother of Runes looks like the only "real" protection card to give Karlov a bit more evasion.
4 months ago
Is it me or are you a bit low on the lifegain side? I do like your take on trying to control the board through other cards than Karlov. But I feel, when looking at this list, you might have problems getting Karlov going consistently. I mean no tutors: Demonic Tutor , Vampiric Tutor , Ranger of Eos etc.
When it comes to lifegain triggers, I play about 25 in my deck, wich often result in a 8/8 Karlov by turn 3.
You can always take a quick look at my list if you want, maybe it gives you some ideas! :)
Commander / EDH*
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5 months ago
If you're going to build a deck as cheap as $30, you're probably going to have to lean on a theme to make it functional. That can be supplemented with the fact that even mediocre demons and devils are good at not being coin-flipped away, but stuff like Dance with Devils wasn't even playable in Limited.
I see some reanimator stuff going on, so if you go that route, Torrent of Souls , Zombify , and Profane Command are all solid budget options. You'll want some graveyard stocking power to go with it. Mindwrack Demon , Extractor Demon , Archfiend of Ifnir , pull double duty. Cathartic Reunion , Dark Deal , Faithless Looting , Hazoret's Monument , Khorvath's Fury , Collective Defiance , Shattered Perception , and Tormenting Voice all fit the bill.
Also, Flayer of the Hatebound could power a nice subtheme with your reanimation, and you can stock up on cheap Undying creatures like Demonlord of Ashmouth , Hound of Griselbrand , and Pyreheart Wolf to lower your budget and synergize with Rakdos. Charmbreaker Devils could also be a house once you stock the yard.
Also, maybe improve general card quality by splurging on Bloodgift Demon and Demon of Wailing Agonies ? Demon's Horn , Carnage Altar , Rakdos Riteknife , Devils' Playground , Dance with Devils , Consume the Meek , and Rite of Belzenlok , Archdemon of Greed , Temple of the False God , Tomb of Urami , and Kindly Stranger Flip are all pretty bad. Akoum Refuge and Bloodfell Caves seem like easy adds, as well.
8 months ago
Thanks, I wanted to make these premade decks because I didn't think it would be fun to ask people to make swaps to their EDH decks, and also didn't think it was very fun to just win off an infinite combo. Could make a house rule that infinite loops are limited to 3, or house rules for specific cards, but I figured it would just be easier to create some custom decks instead.
I'll test AotC and see if it makes the game too trivial. It will for sure act as a shield that will buy us a turn, and I think it might be a good idea that the life gain only triggers from non-tokens, just like Demon's Horn.
Thanks for taking a look at the survivor decks! I've still got about 7 or 8 more to make, so stay tuned.
8 months ago
Thanks for your feedback.
I didn't think of a banlist for this format, but I strongly suggest to avoid the following cards:
- Grafdigger's Cage, Rest in Peace, etc. (permanent graveyard-removals)
- Iona, Shield of Emeria
- Profane Memento
• Nihil Spellbomb was omitted from the Loot deck because there are already two very good grave-hate cards, and also the shovel.
• The Horde's Zombie tokens are put onto the battlefield, not cast. Therefore, they don't trigger Demon's Horn.
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