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Cast Down Discussion
3 weeks ago
Definitely. Cast Down is hands down the best removal in pauper imo*.
I'd actually find it more fun if it wasn't legal, am I the only one? I liked thinking "oh yes this is a mono deck, Victim of Night" or "Building a rakdos deck, better use Terminate" (*which actually could still be better than cast down if you have the right mana) or even "I can't get the right mana on curve, better use Doom Blade this time". I find it was better while deckbuilding, because you had more alternatives (off-topic: I think the same of Village Rites and Altar's Reap).
Either way, that's not a real problem. At least it kills that awful overused Gurmag Angler.
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Yeah, by a lot. I have never run into any 2-mana black targeted removal other than Cast Down since it got printed.
3 weeks ago
I'm kinda curious as to why people use Doom Blade and Go for the Throat when Cast Down basically does the same thing but even better since there's no actual legendary creatures that are worth playing in Pauper. It basically hits everything while Doom Blade and Go for the Throat have restrictions that hold them back in certain matchups.
1 month ago
I like the deck man. I am interested in playing something similar in pioneer. Not sure if I want to go Grixis for Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger because Ashiok is one of my favorite planeswalkers, or just Rakdos because it is my favorite guild.
Anyway, if this is something your interested in perfecting, I'd recommend Eliminate over Cast Down to allow for utility to hit planeswalkers as well. Because of your theme, you don't necessarily need to worry about big creatures attacking in since you can make them discard it anyway. Murderous Rider is another staple that you could use instead as a potential backup plan to beat face.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Ashiok, Nightmare Muse , but Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver can also be a powerful win condition for less mana. Granted, if they are not a creature deck it can hurt, but you still are exiling their deck AND hand with it. I would say it is worth playtesting.
Since you're blue I'd recommend some draw spells. I really like Chemister's Insight for this type of deck since you can discard a discard spell to its jumpstart if their hand is low, while refilling yours for more utility. There are plenty more to consider since it would be likely that you'd run out of a hand around the same time as your opponent without some sort of draw.
1 month ago
I would also recommend Marauding Blight-Priest , but I would like to recommend taking out Kalastria Healer and Vermin Gorger . How about switching the Gorger to another gorger: Savage Gorger . With all the pings, Ol' Savage is almost guaranteed a counter each turn. Vermin Gorger just doesn't have good hits beside Kalastria Healer ; which isn't great. Regarding the Healer, I would either swap it for Dusk Legion Zealot or; If you are counting to go into the late-game, Bloodrite Invoker could be a serious threat, pummeling for three with drain while still synergizing with the theme of the deck. If not, Dusk Legion Zealot could be a good one-shot card draw while still holding a chump. With stall-y decks like this, Withercrown doesn't seem great. Go with Cast Down instead. On that note, I feel that Paralyze is self-deprecating in this deck. With the extra mana they have, they can just pay the tax needed for Paralyze , and swing in. If you want to keep their baddies at bay, I would recommend Typhoid Rats (in the main board), a Oldie but a Goodie. The Rats do a great job on defense, and most-often trade up. (Kill a creature with a greater mana value or alternate cost.) Vampire Envoy doesn't do much in a pillow-forty deck like this, i would take it out for Sign in Blood .
1 month ago
Love the idea, fan of drain meccanics too +1.
I know you made this deck with spare cards, but if you ever wanted to look for an upgrade here's my thoughts:
(My opinion) I really don't like Quag Sickness for its cmc. I think you could use instead 3 Cast Down for some instant speed scenario, but if you want to keep the enchantment theme for the joy of Gary I'd find something better, like Death's Approach .
As I said, I know you are using spare cards, but if you like my ideas maybe you could gather some of these among tour friends. That's one of pauper's advantages after all. Have fun!
2 months ago
Grubbernaut thanks for the upvote! Generally what you said is true, but for this deck I beg to differ. Think Twice is always card advantage while Frantic Inventory , which draws more cards if you can cast all four, has to be drawn at multiple times to get the advantage. Plus if you have to discard Think Twice to Forbidden Alchemy you can still flashback it, plus having one in the gy you can do cool stuff like play Mortuary Mire a Mulldrifter and get it back by flashbacking Think Twice it if you have the mana, or get back a Gurmag Angler . This deck is mostly a "draw, land, go" kind of deck so the flashback cost isn't an issue. Curse of the Bloody Tome is a bad card generally, but it works in this deck because, as I said, many turns are just waiting for stuff to counter and having a passive wincon is cool. Plus you can discard it to Forbidden Alchemy . On MTGO it also has the advantage that if you play it on the first round by turn three, people will scoop because they aren't ready for a mill deck, side out removal for enchantment hate, and get stomped by Gurmag Angler . Cast Down I agree, but until they ban Chatterstorm you need ways to sweep by turn two. Plus against boros you can sweep First Day of Class buffed birds which is nice, and two Suffocating Fumes is necessary to survive against elves.