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Steelbane Hydra
Creature — Turtle Hydra
This enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on this creature.
, Remove a +1/+1 counter from this: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
DemonDragonJ on Should I Keep Abzan Falconer …
3 months ago
I have a copy of Abzan Falconer in my Atraxa, Praetors' Voice EDH deck, because it is quite awesome to give flying to all of my creatures that have +1/+1 counters on themselves, but since that deck also contains both Akroma's Memorial and Elspeth, Sun's Champion, both of which can also grant flying, I wonder if I should replace that creature with another creature, such as Fertilid, Shapers of Nature, Zameck Guildmage, Steelbane Hydra, or Mindless Automaton, as all of those creatures use +1/+1 counters for various purposes.
What does everyone else say about this matter? Should I keep Abzan Falconer in my Atraxa deck, or replace it, with another creature? I certainly would appreciate your feedback.
DemonDragonJ on Nature's Bounty
4 months ago
I have just made some major changes to this deck; for the first time ever, I have changed the general of this deck, replacing Uril, the Miststalker with Marath, Will of the Wild, because, while Uril was certainly an excellent general, it did not match the theme of this deck, which contained a mere six auras, whereas Marath does, and, upon making that change, I have decided to further emphasize this deck's theme of +1/+1 counters, specifically, by replacing Armadillo Cloak, Bear Umbra, Runes of the Deus, Scourge of the Nobilis, Shield of the Oversoul, and Snake Umbra with All Will Be One, Cathars' Crusade, Warleader's Call, Fertilid, Kalonian Hydra, and Steelbane Hydra; I had contemplated putting Forgotten Ancient in this deck, but I was not able to find space for it, and I also wish to minimize overlap with or similarities between this deck and my Atraxa, Praetors' Voice EDH deck, and, while this deck does not have quite as great of an emphasis on generating creature tokens as does my Ghired, Conclave Exile EDH deck, I still believe that it has a sufficient focus to justify the inclusion of Warleader's Call, which also has great synergy with Tamanoa. I also replaced Titanic Ultimatum with Pathbreaker Ibex, because the creature can use its ability repeatedly. I had considered putting Cabaretti Ascendancy into this deck, but I feel that this deck does not contain quite a sufficient number of creature cards to justify the inclusion of that card.
Overall, these changes reduced the average converted mana cost of this deck from 40.6 to 4.05, which is only a minimal change, but doing so also reduced the number of colored mana symbols in this deck, which is also a very good thing.
What does everyone else say about this? Do you believe that I did well with overhauling this deck?
Optimator on The start of my villain arc
9 months ago
Phyrexian Swarmlord seems really good with your commander. Might be a mandatory inclusion!
Dolmen Gate or Levitation might be good for all the attacking you'll be doing. Depends on how aggro the deck ends up though. A decent amount of your attackers have evasion already. Champion of Lambholt was a brilliant inclusion.
Maybe Steelbane Hydra for removal? SHould be good with your proliferate strategy
NV_1980 on Ezuri- The Tokens & Counters Are Coming Oh My!!
11 months ago
Kalonian Hydra; counter-doubling every attack seems pretty bad-ass. Spike Weaver is nice; when all your stuff is tapped and you want to prevent opposing attackers from dealing you damage. additions in here. As a control mechanism, I'd also recommend Steelbane Hydra; easy to recharge it with counters when Ezuri's there and keep zapping enchantments/artifacts.
MrHighscore on Dehydrated Hydras
1 year ago
It's been a couple of years, and the Hydra horde have matured!
Thanks for all your great suggestions while I've been away. I can see that the deck could need an overhaul with all the wonderful new cards
The following are now under consideration
- Vivien Reid: all her abilities seems useful
- Unbound Flourishing: Wait what? More doubling! Sign me up, double time.
- Traverse the Outlands: Prune deck for all lands AND put them into play? Awesomesauce!
- The Great Henge: Seems alrigt. Not sure it's worth a slot, but ramp and card draw.
- Shadowspear: Trample and some other nice stuff
- Selvala, Heart of the Wilds: Very good alternate commander. Will clearly be better than Polukranos, World Eater, but I'm not sure I can have an Elf Scout piloting a Hydra deck? Or can I? If so, I for sure need
- Umbral Mantle to go full retard on the board
- Rishkar's Expertise may be quite a good draw spell, but I hate to discard
- Nissa, Who Shakes the World: Lots of more mana. Would never +1 her, but if she comes out under Doubling Season, the -8 emblem sounds pretty sexy.
- Monstrous Onslaught: There is a hydra on the card. Nuff said
- Lifecrafter's Bestiary: Could be alright to draw some cards. But makes X one less. not sure
- Karametra's Acolyte: bonkers ramp
- Invigorating Surge: double +2 counters on a hydra. Could be fine?
- Infiltration Lens: Fixes draw for cheap! In this deck it surely beats Skullclamp
- Garruk's Uprising: Pretty good draw engine for the hydrating hydras
- Emerald Medallion: Okay is. Not sure it's good enough compared to the more expensive options
- Branching Evolution: Wait what? Yet another doubler? How are you doing?
New Hydras to make room for:
DreadKhan on Gnoll Patrol
1 year ago
I also think Gnolls are cool and approve of this premise! Here are my thoughts about the deck, hope they're helpful.
If you ever want to raise your budget a bit, Pathbreaker Ibex has huge synergy with your deck.
When I was testing out your deck I found that you seemed to be short of creatures for a deck that runs lots of creature payoffs and generally can't win without them. In a deck that's very creature centric I like to run closer to 40, if not more, Gruul has really, really good creatures to choose from. For example, you can run Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf over artifact ramp, these give you a creature body while also permanently ramping you (land ramp is much more stable than artifact ramp anyways). Creature buffs can be stapled to a creature, there are options like Thunderfoot Baloth, Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma or maybe Blossoming Bogbeast or Kamahl, Heart of Krosa. You can use creatures as a great source of removal with options like Thorn Mammoth, Ulvenwald Tracker, Kogla, the Titan Ape, Gruul Ragebeast, Steelbane Hydra, Viashino Heretic, and Outland Liberator Flip are all pretty decent at getting things off the table for you while also offering a physical presence. Not sure if they quite fit, but depending on your meta Silklash Spider and Squallmonger are pretty nasty surprises for decks that use Flying a lot, Squallmonger can even kill huge flyers with another player's help, or allow several players to quickly eliminate an archenemy that is lower in life.
There are a few good ways to double your power in Gruul, the new Two-Handed Axe is very interesting, the surprise Double Strike ability works well with your Commander, and the power doubling effect definitely does. Inquisitor's Flail is an incredible equipment if your Commander is either very big or has First Strike, yours can easily get big enough to justify the risk. Berserkers' Onslaught is really strong, even if it's 5 mana, Enchantments tend to stick around for awhile.
I think you should run more sources of Trample in here (there are some listed above as well), but with a budget restriction that does make it more of a challenge. Your Commander is really strong if he has Trample, but can be chumped by a 0/1 goat token without it (funny image, maybe he got hungry?). Garruk's Uprising is a really good card if you have enough creatures with power 4 and up, but the Trample is the real perk here arguably. Kessig Wolf Run might do the trick, and it's on a land. Brawn is pretty budget, but it can be hard to get it killed. War Cadence isn't exactly Trample, but it can easily let you swing with unblockable creatures if someone is tapped out, but remember this can also be used to create chaos on other people's attacks if you've got nothing better to do. It's also not Trample technically, but Siege Behemoth can bypass blockers for your attackers.
With a relatively low budget in Red, I feel like Rite of the Raging Storm is a very underrated card. Those 5/1s are never coming your way, but they will swarm anyone who can't deal with it on their opponent's turns, and yours gets the buff from your Commander fwiw. Breaker of Armies is a good way to clear out potentially a whole board worth of stuff of a vulnerable player, it can deter attacks vs you if their defenders are all going to be stomped by an Eldrazi.
If you can get your creature count high enough, you could sneak stuff like Lurking Predators in, which is pretty impressive card advantage over time in many metas. There is also Heartwood Storyteller, which is very good if you don't run many non-creatures.
MusicGoat18 on
1 year ago
Thanks again TheoryCrafter! I made cuts and changes based on your suggestion. I did my best to keep a balance while adding more cards for Zaxara, the Exemplary and Unbound Flourishing.
Cuts made:
Forgotten Ancient, Jodah, Archmage Eternal, Fist of Suns, Bootleggers' Stash, and swapped a few lands.
Cards added:
Shivan Devastator, Steelbane Hydra, Unbound Flourishing, and Bonfire of the Damned.
I still want to implement Progenitus' commander damage strategy on top of the hydra tribal idea, so I kept many of the exalt cards and mana fix/ramp. Another reason is that the ramp cards assist with values too.
Max_Hammer on
1 year ago
Huh, it broke, eh? Oh well, here's the list again, not hidden. (I usually accordion lists, so they don't take up three acres in comment space)
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Polukranos, World Eater isn't X-cost, but he can poke at all of your other masochistic hydras, feeding them. That, or just act as removal.
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Primordial Hydra is going to get out of hand fast, if people let him.
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Neverwinter Hydra is going to, on average, be a 11/11 if you're just paying the two to bring it out and letting your commander foot the rest of the bill (Average roll for 4d6 is 10.5).
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Hungering Hydra and Protean Hydra both like tickles.
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Steelbane Hydra is some extra removal, if need be.
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Hooded Hydra could be cool. You get snakes!
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Capricopian is a goat! What's not to like?
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Mistcutter Hydra, Wildwood Scourge, Feral Hydra, and Stumpsquall Hydra are all here, I suppose. They work, technically.
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Genesis Hydra is here, but is also kind of less than useless (if you add a bunch more X-cost creatures. If not, it wouldn't be a bad addition). If a bunch of your big creatures are going to be 0/0's unless you pay their cost, then you don't want to play them for free, really.
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Astral Cornucopia isn't a hydra, but it is X-cost and would give Palette more doots.
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Strength of the Tajuru and Squall Line could both work well, too, also feeding Palette.
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Path of Ancestry just for an extra little doot.
P.S. I swear I'm not being paid by Big Elementalist.
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