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Indomitable Ancients Discussion
2 months ago
Gives evasion for big butts:
Locks down high powered creatures:
Mostly one-sided wraths:
Ideally, low CMC and high toughness critters reign with Doran. Vigilance is also amazing. Try to avoid plain vanilla creatures as tempting as they may be. Exceptions being Indomitable Ancients and Kami of Old Stone.
2 months ago
Commander / EDH
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Hi again guys and gals! I'm trying to cement my Doran deck and was wanting input. Deck description is a little bare bones but sufficient to get what it's trying to do across. Basically I am looking for cards like Meekstone that punish high powered creatures and I'm also looking for non-vanilla big butts. Tasseled Dromedary for instance is a 1 drop effective 4/4. While that is value I'd prefer cards that contribute a bit more than just being plain vanilla wafers (Kami of Old Stone and Indomitable Ancients are exceptions to this rule). Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
2 months ago
Thank you MagicalHacker!
I perused the list you linked and have found some goodies that were appealing. To keep the curve tight so I'm dropping a critter or two a turn I've opted for the 3 CMC guys listed unless the effect was too good.
Mentor might make his way in. Shirei is interesting but my creatures lack ETB effects.
Myr Welder: a 1/4 for 3CMC. Offers artifact gy hate and could be quite useful if it stwals the right ability.
Order of Whiteclay: Sun Titan's lil bro. Not as good with vigilance.
Orzhov Advokist: this plays into my anti-power control element. If they keep pumping their best threats then they will stay tapped. Also acts as a deterrent.
Palace Guard: just a decent effect.
Raving Dead: this guy should probably be in the deck. Great with or without evasion. Doran makes him an effective 6/6.
Sanctum Guardian: nice little protection against big splashy spells or critters.
Scholar of Athreos: late game mana sink?
Selvala, Explorer Returned: ramp and card draw on a 2/4. Pretty decent
Standing Troops: bc vigilance with Doran is hilarious
Vampire Envoy: evasive beater with negligent lifegain.
Village Bell-Ringer: gives my guys pseudo vigilance
Yotian Soldier: vigilance beater
3 months ago
I know your struggle, man. Four colours is a bitch, and with so many great cards at your disposal, it's hard to chose a focus. If it were me, I'd probably shift from aggro to a defensive approach. I'd toss in a bunch of defenders like Axebane Guardian, Overgrown Battlement, Wakestone Gargoyle, Tree of Perdition, Tree of Redemptionand Vent Sentinel. Toss in Time of Need to tutor doran. And then more big butts like Indomitable Ancients. That's where I'd go :) hope that could inspire you :) you could check out my deck The roots of ancestry anchor our victory for more defense-shenanigans ;) stay frosty!
5 months ago
manphibian hmm nice picks, here's my response.
however Skullclamp and Mentor of the Meek are good calls. and while Skullclamp is dope. as soon as something like Intangible Virtue or Oathsworn Giant hits the battlefield. Skullclamp becomes null. i will try to find a spot for it unless you have something in mind
ill probably put in Kessig Wolf Run in just for situational flexibility
Assault Formation and Slagwurm Armor are really good ideas. thoughts for what should come out? i like Silklash Spider i just feel like the base line 4 dmg to flyers from Raking Canopy is better because then any of my big creatures or if Spidersilk Armor is out, its block able. i do like it though.i don't care for Indomitable Ancients. it doesn't bring enough to the table.
the issure with the signet's is that i only have one creature ability and that's Rhys the Redeemed. and while costly, and important. i don't think it warrens the change. plus with the tutors i can search for Cryptolith Rite and be ok on mana.
i mean there all color fixers. the ones you suggested also ramp. however having perfect coloration is also attractive. ill be juggling that decision.
the mutations were in. i took them out becaus i have other more consistant means of removal like Aura Shards and Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury. now if you have suggestions for what should come out for them. that's different.
Assemble the Legion and Elspeth, Sun's Champion are good. but not thematic. and not good enough to warrant the shift.Xenagos, the Reveler has literally been on the edge of making the deck for ages. not sure what should come out for him. thoughts?
THANKS FOR THE HELP. you gave me a lot to think on. and i will say the assigning dmg with toughness is a great idea i haven't thought of and will probably explore more.
again thank you.
5 months ago
A few suggestions/things I noticed;
-Kessig Wolf Run is an awesome token engine when used on Tana after your opponent doesn't (can't) block.
-Assault Formation seems great here (thought obviously doesn't work at the same time as my previous suggestion). Silklash Spider, Slagwurm Armor, and Indomitable Ancients are a few cheap additions that could be strong with it (and the spider just in general as a possible upgrade on your answers to flyers)
-Blade of Selves seems a very odd choice, nearly all of your creatures are legendary and none have ETB abilities. Is there some synergy I'm missing? It won't help with Tana, since the extra copies die to the Legend rule instantly, long before they can make saprolings. Lightning Greaves are likely a significant upgrade.
-The medallions don't really work well here. They are like mana rocks that can only be used for about a third of your spells, and never for abilities or other costs. Replacing them with Gruul Signet, Selesnya Signet, and Boros Signet is a nice budget way to significantly improve the mana base.
-Aura Mutation and Artifact Mutation could be nice on-theme removal spells. In fact the deck is basically completely empty of any form of removal. Swords to Plowshares and Beast Within are good and inexpensive options.
5 months ago
Feels light on land. 34 lands, no artifact ramp, 3.5 CMC at the time of this comment.
I don't really like using things like Wakestone Gargoyle / Assault Formation, if they work well for you by all means. But there are some high toughness fatties you may want to consider that don't have defender, and would not depend on those cards. You have 14 cards with defender, very few of which can inflict any real damage. And without one of those "removes defender" enables are just rattlesnakes that people will only swing into when they know they can win. But there are loads of creatures which would not need to depend on those cards.
Other things for big butts: Crackdown, Slagwurm Armor, Retribution of the Meek, Fell the Mighty, Wave of Reckoning. I see you have included a bit of the anti-power package already with Marble Titan and Meekstone.
So, there is my random Doran feedback rant. For a long time I had the idea that I was going to build a wall Doran deck. But not having blue killed that dream Fog Bank, Wall of Kelp, Wall of Denial, etc. In my Doran deck I just used a lot of fat butts, anti-toughness cards, and had a minor treefolk tribal theme because it helped with draw and protecting Doran. Love me some Doran. <3