R/W Burn

Pemdas77, 11 years ago

New deck... again...

Deck Update

Mordon327, 11 years ago

Removed 2 Forest and added 2 Swamp, Sideboarded Golgari Charm, Read the Bones, and Psychic Strike. Added Divination and Pilfered Plans.

Competitive Update

calderstrake, 11 years ago

Another major overhaul of the under-performers inspired by a thorough deck analysis of the two deck lists in the description.

Out: Vedalken Orrery, Leyline of Anticipation, Dragonmaster Outcast, Lurking Predators, Skyshroud Ranger

In: Thada Adel, Acquisitor, Knowledge Exploitation, Spelljack, Malignus, Blatant Thievery

nashbridges52, 11 years ago

Thanks for the likes everyone, but leave some comments too! I need sideboard help for sure

alex_lap, 11 years ago

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umbron, 11 years ago

Thank you all for your amazing feedback and suggestions..this deck got to where it is because of your help! For now I have reset the comments section, as it was getting overwhelmingly large. Keep the comments coming!

captainkittykat, 11 years ago

I would also would like some thoughts for side board as well :) this deck will be playing in a PTQ and any feedback will be amazing

MuzzleMuffin, 11 years ago

The deck seems solid as of right now. I am having a tough time debating between 18 or 19 lands. I feel that 18 gets a little tricky with the 2 Cryptic Command s in the deck. I am hoping to possibly trade a few things for a Vendillion Clique, but as of right now I am still playing a more budget build and choosing not to run Clique or the Fetches.

Any recommendations?

Mogg War Marshal

Troommate, 11 years ago

Mogg War Marshal Add in.

Swapping

MagicHands88, 11 years ago

Swapped out Cloudfin Raptor for Nivmagus Elemental in the mainboard. I lose flying, but gain everything else. Gotta love some stack abuse.

Mass sidebaord removal

shadowmoses514, 11 years ago

Added Damnation over Killing Wave because it's a better card >.>;

Added Fulminator Mage over Ghost Quarter

[[rapid hybridization]]

Spootyone, 11 years ago

I've added Rapid Hybridization for testing purposes. While my creatures aren't particularly fond of fighting against 3/3s, they typically can at least trade. And turning a Master of Waves offline or a Stormbreath Dragon into a blockable token is a much better upgrade from my perspective. It also gives me a way to deal with Obzedat, Ghost Council, Blood Baron of Vizkopa, Agent of the Fates, and more.

Now we add in the numerous bounce-effects I have in the deck and you have some really nice synergy. The last part of relevancy here? I can (in a pinch) turn my mana dorks into 3/3's to push through damage and/or to evolve my Shambleshark a first or second time. Hooray!

Slight Changes

TehRazorBack, 11 years ago

• Privileged Position. Replacing Beseech the Queen.

More 18/05/14

• Awakening Zone. Replacing Kodama's Reach.
• Ivy Lane Denizen. Replacing Oblation.

Taste like mushroom, talk like people!

Fangorian, 11 years ago

Changes No. 1

Gorky, 11 years ago

I replaced 4x Mountain and 4x Blade of the Bloodchief with 4x Smoldering Spires and 4x Vampiric Fury.

Vampiric Fury fits pretty nice in there where Blade of the Bloodchief wasn't doing quite much.

Smoldering Spires is also kinda nice for forcing your enemy a little bit.

Hold on tight!

Fangorian, 11 years ago

LarryLiu, 11 years ago

Venue agora hobby Went 1-2 R1 monoblack 2-0 Blood baron did most of the work, with thoughtseize n removals doing d hardwork. Oppoment was flying in with nightveil but it landed an elspeth, hero downfalls n lands. R2 BR Rakdos Return deck 0-2 Opponent was a "no-nonsense" "iamanaggroplayerandshallnotcarewatyousay" kinda player. Managed to survived 4 rakdos returns but could not handle his guttersnipe and burn spells. Was land flooded Next game was bad as I made the mistake that hes a monoblack splash red. He isnt. Hence I badly removed 4bloodbarons n 2 lifebane n 2 scavenging ooze for +2 golgari charm +1 blind obedience +1 pithing needle +1 vraska +1 merciless eviction +2 bile blight.. Big mistake. R3 mono green devotion 1-2 Was out rushed by creatures n scavenging ooze G2 won with merciless eviction G3 lost with tons of land in play.. Merciless Eviction seems powerful esp with jou coming out. Shall rework n post a newer list soon:)

emeraldrumm, 11 years ago

Added Dreg Mangler, took out Shambling Shell

Added Golgari Charm took out Slitherhead

Added Putrefy took out Jarad's Orders

Added Llanowar Dead took out Corpsejack Menace

TNM Standard

LarryLiu, 11 years ago

Won 3-0 R1 GR Monster 2-1 R2 Maze's End 2-0 R3 Golgari Dreadge Players were relatively newer hence this was a lucky win.

13spades, 11 years ago

Took out Ravenous Demon  ^Flip, and three Orzhov Guildgate. Added another Runechanter's Pike, two Obzedat, Ghost Council, and a fourth Beckon Apparition. Replaced three gates with Scry lands. Planning on taking out Thraben Doomsayer and replacing him with Day of Judgment.

Changed this deck quite a bit!

Pseudolife, 11 years ago

The core of the deck is the same, but I removed the "hopeful" Utvara Hellkite combo that never EVER lands.

Altar's Reap works great with Underworld Cereberus, and in my meta there is a LOT of esper control. So reaping two hasters for next turn in response to Hero's Downfall just rocks people's faces off.

I added devour flesh because I lose to selenya hexproof.

3-1 Standard Tourney

Mn3m0n1c, 11 years ago

Thankfully I did not 2-2 again, but it was not a 4-0.. SHOULD'VE BEEN. Either way, I lost to a friend and it was a great time.

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Round 1: 2-1 Mono Blue Devotion

Game 1: Lost the dice roll, on turn. He game out the gates fast, as does any Mono blue. Raptors, Familiars and Weirds, Oh my! I Played a Scavenging Ooze into 4 mana after Domri Rade the previous turn. Fought his Judge's Familiar, Flesh / Blood his 1/2 Cloudfin Raptor. Established board control, and started drawing threats with Domri Rade. By the time he Voyage's Ended my ooze (weird I know), I had enough threats on deck to win.

Game 2: Turn again, in came the Mistcutter Hydras, and removal. Decided to not bring in Golgari Charm because i thought I had enough removal for Master of Waves, it cant target Thassa, God of the Sea and what are the odds he draws his 1 or 2 of Bident of Thassa Well turn four he brought that sucker out with 3 fliers. Man did that burn. So I addressed what I could, established control. I actually got into position to win with an 8/8 ooze and a 4/4 Mistcutter Hydra with Domri Rade and a Ghor-Clan Rampager to trample my ooze in to victory. I attacked, and the SOB had another Voyage's End. bye bye ooze, 2 for 1'd my rampager. Lost the following turn to unblockables via Thassa, God of the Sea.

Game 3: On play!! This game I was in the driver's seat, same board.. but added the Golgari Charms.. at least they were a Master of Waves answer in addition to that damn Bident of Thassa. Quickly established control, even with my Stormbreath Dragon tapped down to a Tidebinder Mage, I worked him down fast with a 6/6 Mistcutter Hydra, Domri Rade value fightin left right and center. He was down to 12, and played a Master of Waves into 6 or 7 devotion.. I saw his smirk thinking it was GG since i was at 12 with 2 creatures on board. I went to combat, swung with the 6/6 Mistcutter Hydra, dropping him to 6. I merely dropped a Flesh / Blood 2nd main for a lethal 6 with him tapped out and won. He started blabbering, oh well next turn you were dead to wave tokens. etc.. I showed him the Golgari Charm in my hand for the next turn upset if I somehow couldnt win. his fate was sealed.

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Round 2: 1-2 R/W Burn. gddamnit I hate this deck.

Game 1: Lost the dice roll, on turn. Burn central, had a Scavenging Ooze and a Courser of Kruphix, gained life and he ran out of cards. he conceded after having no cards, and facing down an 8/8 Polukranos, World Eater. though, yay. I won the first game on the turn.. this match is as good as mine!!

Game 2: Turn again, sided in the third ooze, ditched the Elvish Mystics for Searing Blood and Satyr Firedancer, got Sire Of Insanityx2, some Doom Blade for potential Spark Trooper and just to get a Phoenix/Mutavault at the right time. anyway, his hand just seemed endless, burn after burn.. literally double Searing Blood after blocking my Polukranos, World Eater with his Satyr Firedancer to kill my hydra and deal 6 to me. He Magma Jet me and laughed... little did I know, he scryed two Boros Charms. In reality I lost this game because I failed to play correctly with my Scavenging Ooze. I shouldve ate his Chandra's Phoenix my turn or upkeep. I let him untap. realized immediately what I had done wrong. At the end of his turn I ate his Chandra's Phoenix. He hit ooze with a burn in response. I was very upset about that misplay.

Game 3: On play, Same deal. He had all the answers. Just when I had him ready to kill. Stormbreath Dragon & Polukranos, World Eater 7/7 with a Ghor-Clan Rampager in the graveyard + 7 mana for a full Flesh / Blood. I swung in, he chumped the hydra.. so I monstered my dragon for hand damage + 7 flying. Since neither was lethal with Flesh / Blood or monster, I took the more damage + safe attacked next turn win. Well he Warleader's Helix'd in response and won on the following turn. I showed him the Flesh / Blood and I just couldnt use it effectively.

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Round 3: 2-0 U/W Control

Game 1: Lost the dice roll, on turn (what else is new). Turn 2 Domri Rade, got the D. sphere. early Stormbreath Dragon for a Supreme Verdict. after consistent beating, a Polukranos, World Eater with Ghor-Clan Rampager pump for Flesh / Blood was lethal.

Game 2: Turn again, He battled all the way up and eventually tapped out for elspeth. I had a Ghor-Clan Rampager hardcasted. He put out 3 tokens for 5 devotion thinking he was safe. I dropped a Stormbreath Dragon, swung with both at Elspeth, Sun's Champion and took her out with trample damage. He couldnt catch up, and I took an easy second win.

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Round 4: 2-1 R/W buuuurn. fuuuuuuuu

Game 1: WON THE ROLL! played, and lost savagely. what an upset. burn burn burn, firedancer value.

Game 2: Won with two Scavenging Oozes and a Courser of Kruphix, Polukranos, World Eater did the work.

Game 3: On turn was a great out the gates start after a mull to 6. 5 mana available turn 3. back and forth beating. It came down to me at 2 hp, my lethal on board. he had no cards in hand due to a Rakdos's Return. All he had was Satyr Firedancer, any single burn was a win. he drew a mountain. got me to 1 and I could not have untapped faster. won and put me to a 3-1.

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Recap

Although R/W burn is an extremely tough match up, it can be done.. just really really hard. I may adjust for the 4th Courser of Kruphix again, but the Scavenging Oozes just do work here.

Reaper of the Wilds was very useless that night, but it is there for any black removal deck like orzhov or mono black.

Debating on replacing the Courser of Kruphixs with Fanatic of Xenagos, courser is always removed or prevented on lifegain and is a large dud late game. Fanatic can be some much needed tempo and a pretty cheap costing 4/4

After this tournament, I removed Sire Of Insanity from main board, and added a fourth Ghor-Clan Rampager for some additional Flesh / Blood synergy and more trample shenanigans.

hiddenarrow, 11 years ago

Added 3x Temple of Mystery

Recommend 4

winring, 11 years ago

OUT: Reincarnation, Awakening Zone, Curse of Shallow Graves, Bloodflow Connoisseur, Tymaret, the Murder King

IN: Plague Boiler, Hit / Run, Shared Animosity, Food ChainGC