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Massacre Wurm
Creature — Phyrexian Wurm
When this enters, creatures your opponents control get -2/-2 until end of turn.
Whenever a creature an opponent controls dies, that player loses 2 life. (Dying is being put into the graveyard from the battlefield. Tokens enter the graveyard before they cease to exist.)
builderboy7 on Encore Mechanic
3 months ago
I've wondered about this since I was brewing an Araumi of the Dead Tide list. When I go to encore Massacre Wurm out of my graveyard and give trigger its second ability enough times to eliminate one of my opponents, can I then go to combat and attack with 2 Massacre Wurm's at one of my remaining opponents? Or can I only send one Massacre Wurm to each of my remaining opponents? I haven't looked too deeply into the nitty gritty of the encore mechanic but I would assume that I wouldn't be able to attack with 2 encored creatures at one opponent if one of my opponents died.
fluffyeel on You draw you lose
5 months ago
Some small recommendations I can think of:
- You have a lot of drawing for all parties, but your opponents will also be discarding (quite likely, especially given the Memory Jar). I therefore recommend Megrim, which actually is the reason Memory Jar became the first emergency ban in MTG history. You could also run things like Animate Dead, Reanimate, and Necromancy to take advantage of loading up your opponents' graveyards. Of course, Rise of the Dark Realms is a nice showstopper, though it's quite pricey...
- Archfiend of Despair is a delightful combination of Wound Reflection (already recommended) as well as stopping lifegain. I love using it wherever I can. (It's also a demon, so it synergizes with one of your alternate win cons.)
- You could also consider going more of a snow-covered route, so replacing your basic swamps with the snow-covered kind and going with Extraplanar Lens to amplify your black mana. Crypt Ghast also is another mana accelerator.
- The Meathook Massacre and Massacre Wurm are also "board wipe with benefits" that I highly recommend. I also almost always play Kokusho, the Evening Star in every black deck I run. Archfiend of Despair could also be another fun option for removing things and punishing your opponents.
- Some of your artifacts and tutors could be better. Rather than Wayfarer's Bauble, I could suggest Expedition Map instead. Grim Tutor, Planar Bridge, and Beseech the Queen could also make for fun tutoring.
- I'm not sure if Gemstone Caverns and Mox Diamond are worth it here: sure, they're fast and get you more mana quickly (always a good thing), but the multicolored mana isn't so necessary. There are options I might prefer like Mox Amber, Mana Vault, Volrath's Stronghold...
- For a mono-black deck, Contamination might be a great way to lose all friends. I highly recommend it.
DemonDragonJ on Savage Destruction
7 months ago
I have replaced Massacre Wurm with Vein Ripper, since the latter creature is generally superior to the former.
I also have replaced Vulturous Zombie with Korvold, Fae-Cursed King, since Korvold is definitely the superior creature, in this case, and I understand that he would be a better general for this deck than would Kresh, but I originally built this deck when EDH was still a new format, and options for generals were limited, so I deliberately chose generals from the Alara block for my first five shard/arc-colored EDH decks, and I wish to remain committed to that idea.
DemonDragonJ on Reap what is Sown
7 months ago
I have replaced Massacre Wurm with Vein Ripper, since the latter creature is generally superior to the former.
nuperokaso on Better Not to Block
8 months ago
Cool deck idea, but needs slight adjustments! - Deathcap Cultivator isn't really working - your deck can get into the graveyard an Instant, a Sorcery and a Creature, but you don't have any way how to get other type into your graveyard, so you'll never have Delirium. Considering that you are lacking any one mana drop, play Ignoble Hierarch instead. - Tear Asunder is great, but it's obvious that your 2 and 4 mana slots are quite full, and 1 mana is rather empty. I suggest looking up ways how to lower it a little. Maybe play only 2, and some mix of Fatal Push, Tragic Slip and Cut Down. - Worldly Tutor is a card disadvantage. I understand that this is a "combo deck", but it's simply easier to play additional combo cards instead. Blood Artist and Slaughter Specialist have great interaction with tokens and cost only 2 mana. - Engulfing Slagwurm is way outside of your mana curve, and has summoning sickness. I would cut it. Your mana curve effectively ends on 4. If you really insist on playing one expensive finisher just as a Worldly Tutor target, play Massacre Wurm instead. - Benefactor's Draught is questionable. Without Vicious Battlerager, it's bad. Maybe just play 1 as a random surprise. - A second Amulet of Safekeeping is a blank draw. I suggest you go down to 2 copies, and instead play a few Trespasser's Curse. - Restless Cottage is pretty much useless as your opponents will likely have tokens for blocking. - It's always best to play a robust mana base. Why play just 10 non-basic lands? Check some modern mana bases for better fixing.
Profet93 on Volrath, Voltron Reanimator
8 months ago
Perhaps I'm evil but if you're going to run the risk of Kormus bell, might as well add a Massacre Wurm
Mave on endles whispers edh
11 months ago
I read the thread when I tried to look up the rules for the cards which is kinda important for EDH Endless Whispers. (I plan on including it in Obeka)
In a 1v1 match it mostly tries to get the best creature of an opponent while donating negative effects. But in commander it becomes a game of "hot potato" where you can never be sure who gets the creatures of another player but you can decide what "garbage" you donate. That is the gist of what the deck will do in a multiplayer game.
Depending on what you give away you may want cards that can counter triggered abilities in case ove Leveler, Sky Swallower, Boldwyr Heavyweights, Eater of Days, Hunted Wumpus, Inverter of Truth, Dust Elemental, Avatar of Discord, Indentured Djinn Ebon Drake Plague Reaver Master of the Feast Tempting Wurm, the haunted one like Hunted Troll, Hunted Dragon,Hunted Dragon, Hunted Lammasu or Hunted Phantasm. Personally I would use Obeka, Brute Chronologist to counter the ETB of the creatures you play by ending the turn and then giving them to an opponent. But that only works for when the creature with negative effect enters the battlefield during your turn. But it is a great plan B in case you don't have Endless Whispers to give your opponents creatures from the list above by simply playing an 8/8 trample for then ending the turn before the trigger resolves.
Other options are Jon Irenicus, Shattered One or Blim, Comedic Genius both want your opponents to control your creatures. If you just want the effect of giving your opponents negative ETBs you can also build a deck on The Beamtown Bullies. But including Endless Whispers in this deck can backfire by giving you one of the negative effects if the creature dies. And it also is hard to let e.g. Leveler enter the battlefield to donate it through endless whispers. What helps with that may be to manifest a creature with a negative effect with e.g. Scroll of Fate. You can also manifest creatures with negative effect from your library but that is a bit more random.
To prevent getting creatures with negative effects from your opponents you to gain hexproof. There are plenty of effects giving yourself hexproof in white but I couldn't find a good commander for that. To gain hexproof yourself in a non white deck you most likely need Orbs of Warding which may be the way to go to prevent opponents to return the hot potato to you. Which is what I do in Obeka (sadly I don't have any list online of that deck).
If you like Endless Whispers to take your opponent cards however you might rather want to play Grave Betrayal or Lim-Dul the Necromancer. Overall it can still be used as a politicle tool. Especially if you donate one of the Haunted once you can build a pact with another player that you always trade them with each other to get more and more tokens.
Talking tokens it is also possible to put Endless Whispers in Grismold, the Dreadsower which gets into the direction of Dagger Burn known through Rampaging Ferocidon, Trespasser's Curse, Massacre Wurm, Slaughter Specialist and e.g. Illness in the Ranks/Virulent Plague. Whenever you donate Hunted Troll to an opponent or it enters the battlefield you let the 1/1 faeris directly die causing Grismold to trigger and also cards like Poison-Tip Archer.
It is also possible to play with effects like Plaguecrafter, Abyssal Gorestalker, Gravelighter. The player who gets the creature has to sacrifice one creature less and choses who sacrifice one creature less the next turn. But as long as you profit from death triggers via e.g. enchantments or artifacts you will profit most from your favourite card.
I also like Rakdos the Defiler to use Endless Whisper. After all one can donate some negative effects and if the opponent sacrifices creatures they have to donate them to someone else. Altough that also works better in 1v1.
I hope the explanation helps to find the right deck to play Endless Whispers in Commander.
sprink7 on Toxrill the Corrosive
1 year ago
Some simple swaps I'd recommend which are low budget (I think?). These are things that directly serve the same purpose, but better.
Armilliary Sphere => Thaumatic Compass Flip Thaumatic Compass serves the purpose you're using the sphere for, probably?, but with the bonus of extending in strength into the mid to late game as it turns into a Maze of Ith.
Sign in Blood => Tezzeret's Gambit 1 more mana, but proliferate and easier mana requirement. Or two more mana and no life cost.
Sisay's Ring => Thran Dynamo Self explanatory.
Fleetfeather Sandels => Swiftfoot Boots Hexproof is usually better than flying. The Equip cost is lower.
Leaden Myr => Dimir Signet Doesn't die to the next field wipe, which could be yours.
Some general cuts that are either working against you, not doing enough, or just to make space for other things. Cuts:
- Crowded Crypt (Meh mana rock, not stellar token maker)
- Illness in the Ranks (kills your slugs, could be kept with the right win cons)
- Infernal Genesis (too expensive, opponents get to use it first)
- Genesis Chamber (expensive, gives opponents creatures before you)
- Gifted Aetherborn (too small, low impact)
- Royal Assassin (Same)
- Cabal Ritual (-1 card for speed. Gotta get a lot out of this for it to be in deck.)
- Dark Ritual (Same)
- Mana Leak (Great early game, but dead draw midway and on usually.)
- Dispel (Good enough, but I needed to make space)
- Fuel for the Cause (Same)
- Dramatic Reversal (I don't see a combo with this in deck)
- Morbid Opportunist (slow draw)
- Altar's Reap (I don't see enough excess creatures until commander is in play, so you might as well turn it into a draw engine instead, see below)
- Village Rites (Same)
Add: 6 lands. Duals are preferable, but basics are just fine as well. Harvester of Souls (draw engine) Vampiric Rites (draw engine) Mass Diminish (wipe) Mirkwood Bats (win con) Zulaport Cutthroat (win con) Bastion of Remembrance (win con) 2+ Mana rocks from list below
Some mana rocks to consider Arcane Signet Talisman of Dominance Mind Stone Worn Powerstone Replicating Ring Astral Cornucopia Everflowing Chalice
Slightly Higher cost stuff that goes really well with what you're doing.
- Black Sun's Zenith => Infest (It's better usually, even at 3 mana)
- Massacre Wurm => Vampire Nighthawk (Vampire is good enough, just not pulling weight at this point)
- Asinine Antics => Grim Affliction (Another Polymorphist's Jest, but permanent)
- Skullclamp => Slum Reaper (You already kill everything consistently, and this gives a S* load of draw) (Add a Trinket Mage to tutor it)
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