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Avatar of Might
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If an opponent controls at least four more creatures than you, Avatar of Might costs 6 less to cast.
Trample (If this creature would deal enough damage to its blockers to destroy them, you may have it deal the rest of its damage to defending player or planeswalker.)
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Avatar of Might Discussion
3 weeks ago
Nice build. +1 Primeval Titan, Avatar of Might or Terra Stomper might be good for trampling over when you don't have Nylea, God of the Hunt or are just going against a deck like tokens or humans that like to go wide fast.
1 month ago
A few cards for your consideration are Nissa's Pilgrimage, Basilisk Collar, Grappling Hook, Nessian Wilds Ravager, Pounce, Prey Upon, Savage Stomp, Woodland Bellower, Avatar of Might, Hunted Troll, Worldspine Wurm, Polukranos, World Eater, Garruk, Caller of Beasts, and Phyrexian Dreadnought.
1 month ago
Heldt honestly, I might sub Wayward Swordtooth for Leatherback Baloth myself, even if the low land count means I don't always get the full benefit of its Explore effect. Cryptolith Rite versus Emerald Medallion is intriguing as well, and certainly warrants testing. Depending on the decks you expect to face, I might recommend removing Avatar of Might instead of Beastmaster Ascension, but it really depends.
As for Boots and Greaves, I'm not sure I have a good answer. Primal Bellow, maybe? I really like having one or both of them, but I'm not sure where to find room. I'm glad I was able to inspire you to tackle the deck yourself!
1 month ago
Village Elder, Stonehoof Chieftain, Silvos, Rogue Elemental, Woodland Bellower, Temur Sabertooth, Silklash Spider, Regal Force, Sylvan Safekeeper, Fauna Shaman, Phyrexian Revoker, Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip, Hornet Queen, Avatar of Might, Ghalta, Primal Hunger
2 months ago
TheRedGoat, thank you so much for taking the time to write your thoughts, plentiful as they are. You raise a lot of good points, so I'll try to share my thinking on all of them.
First of all, you're right about Mycosynth Lattice and Mycosynth Golem, and it's a big part of why I haven't decided to included them in the deck or not (aside from the cost, of course; 15 is a bit more than I'm willing to spend.) Inspiring Statuary is less good in this deck than it could be, but I think it's still worth an inclusion for now.
I should probably go back into the primer and reword the section about building the deck around Ghalta. I tried to strike a happy medium between the artifact side of the deck and the powering out my commander half. Metalwork Colossus is the epicenter of these two halves, and it's basically the only reason I went the artifact route in the first place. That being said, I agree with your analysis on various types of artifact decks in EDH, and I think moving forward, I'll be placing a stronger emphasis on the Value Town aspect of artifacts. I've already got a bit of a sacrifice subtheme, with Krark-Clan Ironworks and Trading Post, so it probably wouldn't take too much reworking. I may bolster that a bit as I move forward with the deck. Part of my reasoning is that Metalwork Colossus also lends itself to sacrifice engines very nicely as well.
I think that a voltron artifact deck would suit Ghalta pretty well, and to be honest a decent part of why I'm reluctant to go that route is because I'd need to rework the deck so heavily. I'm already suited more to a value game than an aggro, even if my commander can end things quickly. You mentioned removing Triumph of the Hordes for more consistent infect enablers as a way to lean into aggro, and I agree that it's one of the weaker cards in the deck. On the list of potential removals, it's pretty high, but it's mostly in here as a "gotcha" to take out an opponent or two out of nowhere. The amount of hate that Infect gets makes me reluctant to run a more potent effect, though. It'll probably be removed whether I focus more on aggro or value, to be honest.
I like the idea of some power/toughness value cards, and I do think this deck is slightly lacking in card advantage. Life's Legacy could be a nice effect, but since I already have Rishkar's Expertise I don't know if I'd want more than two mega-draw cards. Traverse the Outlands is cute, but it only has tons of value after I've cast my commander, at which point I probably don't need much more mana.
Moving away from artifact discussion,Pump spells are kind of neat as rituals. I'd never considered that idea before, and I think Primal Bellow at the very least deserves testing. I think that Bellow is the only one I'd be interested in testing, since it has the additional potential of being used to give Ghalta +9/+9 and turn him into a one-shotter (lands willing, of course.) Token generators are another way I could generate some extra power, and it's a big part of the reason Myr Turbine is in the deck right now. You mentioned Avatar of Might as well, and it's funny - when I first started drafting the deck, I originally toyed with the idea of a deck based around cost reduction, rather than artifacts. As the focus shifted, I dropped it in favor of other things, but I'll test it to see if it might be worth an inclusion. (Best case scenario, it ends up being Ezuri's Brigade part 2.)
Once again, thanks a million for taking the time to share your thoughts. There's a lot of great ideas here, and I'll be taking some time over the next few days to test them. You really went above and beyond discussing options for Ghalta acceleration and Artifact synergy, and I appreciate the time and effort that went into this. Happy brewing!
2 months ago
So I love your concept here, but I notice how you say you started out wanting to build around Ghalta, and so now I'm conflicted with wanting to add support to your artifact theme OR your commander's game-plan of "fatty tribal", cause I'm not so sure they work well with each other. Let me do a not-so-short breakdown of what I'm thinking.
I'd first point out that Mycosynth Lattice and Mycosynth Golem do not work together like people are saying. The lattice doesn't make cards in your hand into artifacts, so the golem doesn't reduce the cost of creatures that are not already artifacts in your hand. However the Golem would still help you cheat things like Colossus of Akros into play if you've got a ton of artifacts and the Lattice is great with Inspiring Statuary (good call on dropping Titania's Song first btw, that would just blow up your lands with the lattice out). Oddly enough, the Statuary is kinda bad in your current build because it doesn't reduce the cost of your artifact creatures, but I presume this without having tested the build.
Now, to do a light step on actually figuring out artifact support, there's the inherent issue of being green, and I'm not talking about the fact that green usually hates on artifacts. No, my point is that if you are "playing an artifact deck" normally that means one of three things (to me at least): You're aggro/volron with equipment and tokens; you're combo/control with tutors and protection for pieces; or you're playing value engines with your grave as another place to just get your artifacts from. The fact that green can't provide anything past the recursion and maybe the protection effects and tokens is why most people don't play mono-green artifacts. The support isn't necessarily there for the artifacts themselves. This is why Oviya isn't even a great artifact commander as all she does is make artifact tokens and otherwise doesn't care about artifacts at all. No if green does do any artifact strategy the only one it can pull off effectively, in my mind, is the voltron aggro one. Which Ghalta is well suited for, but if you really want to hammer down on building it that way, you'd need to really alter your build from its current point. For one Triumph of the Hordes, while a little sneakier than having Grafted Exoskeleton out, isn't as effective in the long run. Nissa, Vital Force for instance would also be very powerful as a value engine, but your build doesn't have a good slot for it yet.
For building around Ghalta more directly though, and taking the fatty tribal theme focus over artifacts, you've got a ton of options for cards to improve the build without breaking your budget. For card advantage alone you could be playing Life's Legacy. Hunter's Insight, Hunter's Prowess, Momentous Fall, even Traverse the Outlands if that isn't too high (I don't claim to know what your budget is). You also do not seem to have explored the idea of using pump spells as ritual effects for your commander. Aspect of Hydra and Primal Bellow when timed right, and in regards to your commander at least, could be like paying 1 mana to gain 7+. This is not to mention some of the undercosted creatures out there that may not be free to cast but certainly have ways to be far more powerful than they appear. Avatar of Might is one cheap fatty option, but did if you're willing to look at tokens you should also remember that Saber Ants, Broodhatch Nantuko, and Ant Queen are all solid options as well (if completely off flavor)
Anyway, that's some of what I'm thinking about your build and I'm not sure where to delve further unless you've already got it in mind of where you'd want to sit on those extremes. If you don't want to settle for one that's an option too of course, but it is the most challenging as well.
5 months ago
I'd recommend some evoke creatures. If you evoke them, it counts as casting the spell and the original CMC, but you pay much less than it. Other cards that have reduced CMC like avatars and Delve creatures are good too. Some of the ones I'd recommend are AEthersnipe, with decent removal with six CMC, Avatar of Might, since with your low amount of creatures the condition will almost always be met, plus an 8/8 trample for GG and an 8 CMC will be able to end games pretty easily and hopefully cascade into an extra turn effect or similar and kill someone right off the bat, Avatar of Woe is a sweet repeatable removal spell, again for just BB considering most of the time by late-ish game you'll have that condition met, and Mulldrifter, a staple even not in yidris decks. Also, cards that give your yidris double strike or hard to block can help get oyur yidris to hit more often, and sometimes more than once, giving your cards double cascade. Cards like Psychotic Fury, Temur Battle Rage, Uncaged Fury, Assault Strobe, Runes of the Deus, Berserkers' Onslaught, Blood Mist, Sangrite Surge and Rage Reflection all grant double strike, and Aggravated Assault, Fury of the Horde, Relentless Assault, Seize the Day, and World at War all grant an additional combat. Aqueous Form, Shimmering Wings, Slip Through Space, Shizo, Death's Storehouse, and Amphin Pathmage all make your yidris harder to block so you can get triggers more easily.