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Play Delirium only during an opponent's turn.
Tap target creature that player controls. That creature deals damage equal to its power to the player. Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt to and dealt by the creature this turn.
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2 months ago
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Potential Fun: Nesting Dragon
5 months ago
Favorite Shard: Grixis
Manipulative, cruel, powerful. Edicts, burn, bounce, counterspells, everything control can be found here, and with a handful of evasive, aggressive creatures to swoop in with once you've established control of the board, or you can play the slow-burn game with effects like Nekusar, the Mindrazer. Put your opponent(s) on a clock and deny them the ability to stop it. Plus their ability to run some of the meanest creatures in the form of things like Kederekt Creeper, Baleful Strix, Master of Cruelties, etc. So much fun to be had.
Favorite Wedge: Abzan
Relentless power. I love Abzan because of its resilience, strength, and versatility. I'm not a huge fan of a lot of Abzan specific cards, but being able to run things like Animate Dead, Sun Titan, Brave the Sands, alongside gigantic green creatures like Ghalta, Primal Hunger, Ghoultree, Avatar of Might, etc is just incredible. The incredible suite of removal that B/W brings to the table in the form of Vindicate, Anguished Unmaking, Utter End, etc, combined with the might of Green creatures, further compounded by the volume of powerful reanimation effects these colors all have, builds a powerful, versatile deck that just never gives up. I've run Abzan decks that have had their most crucial cards hit with Slaughter Games type effects, and they still didn't stop, didn't slow down, and pulled out a win.
Favorite Allied Guild: Rakdos
Rakdos just knows how to throw a party. Every time I've built Rakdos I end up having fun, win or lose. Chaotic game-changers like Everlasting Torment, Havoc Festival, and Sire Of Insanity just bring a lot of shenanigans to the table that people just aren't prepared to deal with. Terminate is one of the kings of removal. Cards like Backlash, Delirium, and Rakdos Charm punish a variety of opposing playstyles. The individual colors also contribute a lot to your ability to handle creatures, and create even more chaos. Endless Whispers, Scrambleverse, you name it.
I cannot wait to get my hands on Last One Standing.
Favorite Enemy Guild: Simic
This one is simple, these two colors compliment each other so well it's insane. There is almost nothing that exists in this game that Simic cannot do. Green's weakness is its inability to manipulate the board much without combat. Blue's weakness is in its board presence and creatures. They are ideal together. Ramp, removal, aggro, counterspells, creature control, resilience. Simic has all its bases covered, and with just two colors. Mystic Snake, Trygon Predator, Kiora's Follower, Plasm Capture, Voidslime, Simic Charm, these cards are amazing, and that's without getting into the mono-color cards.
I'd also like to throw out some love for "Growth", the combination. The only pure Growth cards we have thus far are Atraxa, Praetors' Voice, and Witch-Maw Nephilim, but boy what cards they are. But the colors themselves are awesome together. G/U's flexibility, W/B's removal, much less other multicolor synergies, access to Abzan cards, Sultai cards, Esper cards. Obviously the mana base gets complicated fast, and it can be hard to handle, but if it works, it works.
6 months ago
Sun Titan is a staple for a reason. It would be a great include in any list that wants to run it. Decent beater, recursion, hits all those defensive cards, Virtus the Veiled, Dark Depths, Strip Mine, etc... Run it, it's probably great.
The more I play in a higher powered meta, the more I think that running higher powered staples would be fine. Maybe because the deck is becoming more well known, maybe because my opponents are running bigger threats, or maybe because I have learned to play better, but I think if the soul of the deck is preserved, you can run some power and still not get targeted. I may explore this a bit soon, and see where I can go with a little more power and a little less round about tactics to get there.
Also, Reverberate has been a total beast. My favorite spells that I have copied so far have been the obvious Mana Drain, Kodama's Reach, Demonic Tutor, Ancestral Vision, and my own Delirium. None of these were game breaking plays, but every one was a value based play that really worked for me in the moment. The bottom line is that there will be tons of value based sorcery and instant plays in the game, as well as huge sorcery and instant bombs. Any of these plays would be good targets for a instant copy spell. People will ramp, draw cards, tutor, and use spot removal or counterspells. Getting in on their action has proven pretty useful. I may end up with both Fork and Reverberate at some point.
10 months ago
How to make your opponents suffer: Comeuppance, Deflecting Palm, Selfless Squire, Rakdos Charm, Batwing Brume, maybe Delirium and Backlash. Consider making these a base for a Sunforger package. Settle the Wreckage is a really good one for Sunforger!
Looks like a good start! Long live the Queen!
11 months ago
Awesome. Thanks for the amazing game reports. Opponnents getting salty is why I think that the deck belongs in a large and rotating meta. Familiarity breeds contempt. Getting beat this way sometimes is fun. Getting beat just about every game is not fun.
As for possible early commander aggression, I would suggest the Vow cycle. I prefer Vow of Malice, since giving them intimidate when they can't attack you is great, but giving them first strike with Vow of Lightning, or vigilance with Vow of Duty, since both can be used against you by enhancing their ability to block, is not as great. You could also consider Darksteel Mutation, even though it makes part of their offense ineffective for use against your opponents. Any of these are pretty good, and could replace or be added to Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, etc... as spot removal. I have tried all of these, but my meta did not have super fast voltron decks, and I wanted to have the versatility of the spot removal that I currently use for taking out strong utility creatures or commanders who have an effect on the game that is not related to combat. I will continue to think about the super fast voltron decks. Usually my Maze of Ith, Kor Haven, Spires of Orazca, Delaying Shield, Solitary Confinement, Forcefield, Delirium, Backlash, Fog suite, spot removal suite, Threaten effect suite, Rattlesnake suite, and suite of cards to encourage them to attack elsewhere all keep my losses to voltron under control. That being said, the only real contenders in that category in my meta have been Omnath, Locus of Mana and Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, and they are not super fast.
I personally love the interaction of Selfless Squire with another Fog. They feel safe after the Selfless Squire has already hit the board, and they swing at you with everything. Fog, they are tapped, and you can swing for more than they did. You can sometimes bait people into overcommitting by dropping Selfless Squire to prevent even a modest amount of damage when holding another Fog. The usual game plan for someone who you think holds a Fog but doesn't have much to retaliate with is to attack into them. They need to be forced to play it, then you alpha-strike. That is what most people do against this deck when they get to know it. They force the Fog, then alpha-strike. I can often bait them into overcommitting by dropping the Selfless Squire against a moderate attack. Usually this makes a 10/10 Squire or more. When they see that big beater and what they think was a wasted Fog, they decide to take me out before that Squire can get a chance to get bigger. They figure that they can withstand that 10+ damage, even if I survive, so they swing with everything trying to take me out. Then I drop a Batwing Brume or something, survive, and they are tapped out. I get to swing into them for sometimes more than 40. Crazy turnaround.
1 year ago
They are quite meta dependent, but if you play in an environment where people like to go tall, it can be incredibly satisfying to kill a player with one of these ;)
1 year ago
Beebles, thanks for taking a serious look at the deck. I appreciate the feedback, since this is a work in progress, as evidenced by the huge comment thread and the various updates.
Sphere of Safety - Enchantments are one of the things that just seem to stick around more than other permanents. There are only 8, but I end up collecting them, and three of my most tutored for cards are enchantments, so they often come out. There once was a few more enchantments, and I am not sure of my threshold below which I would get rid of it, but you are right, I haven't really considered removing it. I was just recently thinking that I would put more Ghostly Prison type cards in if I could, and Sphere of Safety is just an overcosted and typically weak version of Ghostly Prison. Academy Rector would potentially fit the bill, in that I would be able to search for that Ghostly Prison, but Aurification may be counter to my strategy. Unlike No Mercy, Aurification leaves them with defense, and I dont want other players to have defense, if possible. I have considered Lightmine Field, but that is only worthwhile against swarm attacks. I will keep in mind that replacing Sphere of Safety with Academy Rector may actually work out nicely, and would lower my curve ever so slightly, and would even be another creature for my recently added Worship. I appreciate the suggestion.
Boros Fury-Shield - This was a card that I did consider early, and have not returned to it since, for no really great reason. I excluded it early for a few simple reasons. It is a fog that only affects the damage done by a single attacking or blocking creature. This seriously limits its ability as a fog. Every other fog I added could stop all damage aside from Deflecting Palm, and the ability to redirect any damage source makes it far superior. The ability to redirect damage is essentially shared by every other fog in my list aside from Dawn Charm, and the other modes of Dawn Charm make up for this. It sort of behaves like a highly conditional Backlash or Delirium, and maybe I should think of it that way. In that case, it actually could fill a role in the deck. Thank you for the reminder. I may consider trialling it as another conditional copy of Backlash or Delirium.
Lotus Vale and Scorched Ruins - These cards are there for much more than as a way to mitigate the damage from Price of Progress. They work somewhat subtly in the deck, and the real reason has to do with another synergy that you did not mention as well as a psychological reason. The risk has been mitigated in my meta by an overaggressive (others said abuse) of targeted land destruction by myself. After a fun bout with a Life from the Loam deck that abused Strip Mine and its various friends, when I tried playing Strip Mine in a few other decks, including this one, and there were enough complaints that we agreed that land destruction is not fun, and we basically all agreed to take it out of our decks. No one enjoys non-basic hate or color specific hate, either, so no one plays them. I understand that this is a very specific meta that I play in, but this mitigates the risk, and there is little risk in playing these lands at this point. The value of these cards has to do with keeping my land count low. This helps with Acidic Soil and Price of Progress, but also makes Tithe, Gift of Estates, and Weathered Wayfarer stay active. These three cards draw me a ton of cards, which I can pitch to Key to the City or Solitary Confinement. These three cards are a decent amount of my non-Monarch card draw. Solitary Confinement is my most tutored card, and extra cards in hand are really valuable. Trimming my lands with Lotus Vale and Scorched Ruins, as well as the Ravnica Karoos and Gemstone Mine all lead to lower land counts, and ensures these synergies with both my offense and my card draw, while leaving me with the same potential mana as everyone else at the table. This is where it gets subtle and tricky. When people look around the table for threats, number of permanents plays into threat assessment. Appearing to have fewer lands makes me appear as less of a threat. It is super easy to overlook the fact that I can often get 7+ mana from 4 lands. Scorched Ruins is actually Ramp, and is a little like a Sol Ring in disguise. When people actually count, they are not fooled, but it is surprising how often people just glance at your lands, unless they are looking for responses to their plays. Not playing Blue means I get less scrutiny than some, and this lowers my threat level. Altogether, the cards in the deck have many synergies as well as subtle psychological effects that the whole package together is much more powerful than the basics that could replace them.
As far as reactivity goes, I would break it down into two categories: Instants, and interactive permanents. While instants make up the bulk of the deck, interactive permanents are super interesting. I have 22 instants, 17 of which are tutorable with Sunforger. You dont need that many, even as a Sunforger package. As a toolbox, Sunforger packages are usually 10+ cards. Less than that is probably underpowering it. Aside from that, I have never had a goal in mind for reactivity. I thought about how I could lose, and set about trying to overcome those conditions, hopefully in a way that wins me the game. I also thought about what sorts of game states are common, and went about trying to punish those game states. Finally, I thought about how to create exciting game state swings in ways that would not make me a global target. Some of this lead to some Mardu goodstuff, but many of these cards are somewhat uncommon. What evolved from this thought process is the deck you see. It now has 22 instants, 18 of which are truly interactive and reactive, as well as a couple of interactive lands, a couple of interactive artifacts, a couple of interactive creatures, and an interesting interactive enchantment. In essence, I have no threshold, and would not consider the underlying philosophy of deck construction used for this deck to be particularly interested in thresholds.
I like the idea of Electropotence, and agree that the synergy with Lifelink and Deathtouch would be great, especially for Assassin and Snake tokens. I think that Warstorm Surge, Baneslayer Angel, and Exalted Angel are too mana intensive for my tastes. Thanks for the suggestion of Electropotence, I may trial it, and it may prompt me to add more Deathtouch creatures again. Ogre Slumlord with Electropotence is a wrath and token bomb all at once. Interesting.
Thank you for the suggestions, and the discussion. It always helps. You have given me a few cards to consider, or even just reconsider, as the case many be. These kinds of discussions have been what has lead to this decks long evolution to what it is now, and will continue to evolve it. Thanks.
1 year ago
Interesting point about Grab the Reins. I was looking for low CMC Threaten effects that are instant. I want both defense and offense. The sorcery speed cards are mostly unable to provide defense. Besmirch does provide defense, so it is actually a decent option, and I even considered putting Grenzo, Havoc Raiser back into the deck for more goad/pillage effects, but the dependence on attacking creatures makes Grenzo questionable. Besmirch does not have that dependence as much. Act of Aggression is more expensive, but does what Grab the Reins does, only it untaps and gives Haste, and it has the CMC flexibility of phyrexian mana if I need to cast it earlier. I also have a Disharmony that is asking to be played, but the only use it has is for defense, making it an awkward combination of half-fog, half-removal/control/combat trick. I am not sure if it will make the cut, but I will try it out. Kari Zev's Expertise may be great, with the number of <3 CMC cards in the deck, but a large number of them are reactive spells, so I am not sure how often it would pay off. I ordered one for testing anyway, thanks for the tip. Harness by Force would give a middle ground between the normal single target Threaten effects and the multi-target Insurrection/Mass Mutiny/Mob Rule, and could swing games, but is less flexible than Word of Seizing. The only real issue I have with Word of Seizing is the higher CMC, which may be something I just have to get over. Zealous Conscripts is an interesting option, but too many decks have it, and it may scream combo, which I don't want. I will have to play with the rest of these some to find out what I like. Cards like Backlash and Delirium have been really strong for this deck, and I could see any of the Threaten effects doing the exact same work, plus having potentially more flexibility. I will likely cycle through all of them, and every time I draw/play one, I will ask myself if I would have rather had one of the other ones in the list instead.
The other option I was considering was beefing up the midrange elements of the deck some. I am not sure I would have enough card slots to make it worthwhile, and I would be afraid that adding more overt offense would paint more of a target on my head. I would need midrange options that are significant defensive additions, that happened to come with some offense. I think Dread is a good example of this, but Jotun Grunt could make the cut as well, for it's graveyard work that can be used for my own recursion and as anti-reanimator tech. Midrange elements would potentially help against Stax and more reactive decks, but my meta actually frowns on Stax, so this would be a change to prepare for stepping into other metas, and may not really ever pay off. I think adding to what the deck already does through the addition of Threaten effects is probably the better plan that shifting to more midrange, even though it would be mostly useless agains other reactive decks.
As a side note, I have really liked Burning Wish, but had poor outcomes with Death Wish. The Wishboard has been fun, and does create a lot of flexibility, without being totally overpowered. I may work on the contents of the Wishboard as I go along, but I will be replacing Death Wish with a Cruel Tutor I just traded for.