Commander 2016 Spoilers!
Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum
Posted on Oct. 24, 2016, 10:53 a.m. by Phaetion
Silas Ren? SIDAR KONDO?! A legendary angel from New Phyrexia that SCREAMS superfriends? Partner mechanic? Sign me up!
No problem. :)
On another note: ~T-1 hour until decklists. C'MON, WIZARDS! You're killing me with this whole patience thing!
October 28, 2016 9:39 a.m.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #3
Eh I have work to do in an hour, damn schedule and such. I can't buy your products if your hype gets me out of work Wizards! Ghawdd!!
October 28, 2016 9:41 a.m.
@ Named_Tawyny: If you go to mythicspoiler's home page and just scroll to the bottom they have a reprints section beneath all the new cards.
October 28, 2016 9:45 a.m.
Hello Past in Flames, it's so nice to see you (reprint in the Yidris deck)
October 28, 2016 11:03 a.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #7
What. Link fail.
Attempt 2:
DECKLISTS!!!!
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/commander-2016-edition-decklists-2016-10-28
October 28, 2016 11:04 a.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #8
Dang. Atraxa is just crappy +1/+1 counters.
Got a lot of good reprints tho like Sol Ring, Cathars' Crusade, Champion of Lambholt, Vorel of the Hull Clade, Corpsejack Menace, and Scavenging Ooze.
WAIT, Reveillark?!?!
October 28, 2016 11:12 a.m.
I'm really stoked about some of the reprints in these lists!
Each deck has some much needed reprints it seems! Really driving the price down and a good entrypoint for new players who are looking to develop a staples binder...
Master of Etherium, Ethersworn Adjudicator and Baleful Strix in Breya
Cauldron of Souls, Kalonian Hydra and Master Biomancer in Atraxa (and SCOOZE!!)
Ghostly Prison and Propaganda in Meletis Boys, are you SERIOUS?! Also, Collective Voyage and Chasm Skulker along with Forbidden Orchard -- Nice.
Saskia's a little light, but Iroas, God of Victory is nothing to sniff at.
Same with Yidris, but reprints of Nath of the Gilt-Leaf and the Cascade creatures are always welcome. Burgeoning and Waste Not too.
Great little starting decks for new players.
October 28, 2016 11:17 a.m.
Oh yeah, almost forgot reprints of Past in Flames and Reveillark! Awesome.
October 28, 2016 11:18 a.m.
Wizards, you have completely redeemed yourselves from the last 2 years.
October 28, 2016 11:19 a.m.
Breya deck looks good. Thopter Foundry. I'm sold.
Grouphug looks like the value deck with Ghostly Prison and Propaganda
Atraxa seems to have been cut down in power, probabaly because poison isn't that fun in edh.
The aggro deck seems ok. I can see it working.
The cascade deck...Wheel of Fate, Dragon Mage and ol' Glinty Glint-Eye Nephilim. Yep...3 decks I'm getting. Also note, only maelstrom wielder comes with chromatic lanter
October 28, 2016 11:20 a.m.
Cool, now glad I bought all decks for $125. Has cards I need for other decks also, so will wait for a while to see if I need enough to buy another set, and trade what I don't need away (I will buy decks/collections, but not singles).
October 28, 2016 11:26 a.m.
So hyped for Yidris. It looks incredible. I just hope that Bloodbraid is planechase art.
I'm also probably going to be picking up Breya. Some really nice cards in there.
I might even pick up the group hug deck.
There are some insane reprints in these decks. Yidris just looks like wheel combo and I love it.
October 28, 2016 11:27 a.m.
Can we all agree that C16 is the best set of decks by far (in the product line)?
October 28, 2016 11:27 a.m.
I think that's a given -- The partner commanders are certainly toned down, but it's a new mechanic. The power of the decks as a whole really makes up for that and adds to them.
October 28, 2016 11:28 a.m.
DarkLaw those are the exact three decks I'm getting, with Atraxa down the line somewhere. Order goes Breya because artifacts, Grouphug because good value there, then Yidris because I need those wheels for Nekusar
October 28, 2016 11:30 a.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #18
Named_Tawyny - Mythicspoiler shows the reprints if you scroll all the way to the bottom.
October 28, 2016 11:31 a.m.
I am massively impressed too. WotC finally had the balls to start reprinting more than 2 valuable cards in every deck.
October 28, 2016 11:33 a.m.
To be honest I was really dissapointed by the commanders, but looking at the lists it makes sense to nerf the commander. These are the best lists so far, Phaetion!
October 28, 2016 11:34 a.m.
"If Yidriss triggered ability resolves more than once in one turn, spells you cast from your hand will gain cascade that many times. Each instance of cascade triggers separately; resolve one cascade trigger and the spell you cast from it before resolving the next cascade trigger."
Welp, he's broken.
October 28, 2016 11:34 a.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #22
oops sorry, didn't realize there was a whole other page of comments. Disregard...
October 28, 2016 11:34 a.m.
Starting values are above the normal. $120+ is great. I expect prices to drop. But some store will increase deck prices till they do.
October 28, 2016 11:40 a.m.
Those wheels just scream "I'll setup your cascade for you!" Dear Bolas...all of my money...every bit
October 28, 2016 11:41 a.m.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #25
Cascade tribal just got a second commander Maelstrom Wanderer wasn't enough...
October 28, 2016 11:44 a.m.
EpicFreddi says... #26
Simon_Williamson Now they can play nearly all cascade spells except one. Hurray!
October 28, 2016 11:58 a.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #27
I am torn if I want to get Yidris or Saskia. Both seem like a great beginning for a chaotic combat manipulation type deck...I love everything about the Yidris deck (I mean, who doesn't want to run Boompile and Goblin Spymaster?) but absolutely HATE Grixis colors and I don't think green can save it. Saskia on the other hand could be really fun but it just seems a little bland next to the others. Or I could just say screw it and build a fun reanimator, +1/+1 style deck with Reyhan and Ravos. Hmmmm decisions decisions.
October 28, 2016 11:59 a.m.
I'm just as torn: Focus on the 4-colored legends or the partners?
October 28, 2016 12:01 p.m.
Remove the partners from the deck and upgrade the decks with a handful of cards like Maelstrom Wanderer in Yidris for example. Then you can play around with partner configurations and see what works -- I'm looking at Thrasios/Tana and Thrasios/Shidiqi myself.
October 28, 2016 12:06 p.m.
About this card...
I really like it. It's probably the best budget "dual".
October 28, 2016 12:25 p.m.
So, thats 55/75 new cards spoiled so far. Any opinions as to what we see next?
October 28, 2016 12:39 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #32
Atony1400 They have released all the decklists. They should all be spoiled.
October 28, 2016 12:40 p.m.
But theres 55 new cards on mythicspoiler and magicspoiler, and 15 new cards in each of the 5 decks?
Also, Temple of the False God (DD art) and Scavenging Ooze reprints!
October 28, 2016 12:51 p.m.
There are only 55 new cards, some are in multiple decks
October 28, 2016 12:52 p.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #35
Could just not be updated yet. Patience is a virtue. ;)
October 28, 2016 12:59 p.m.
A really good statistic:
All the decks have 5 Legendary creatures, while Greek Hug and Breya have 9.
If you buy all 5 decks, you get 33 legendary creatures. That's great.
October 28, 2016 2:06 p.m.
Greek hug rofl
I actually really like how that deck is just good stuff. I might get that before Breya, but after Yidris.
October 28, 2016 2:42 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #39
I am very surprised that WotC is reprint g only one nephilim; they were the first four-colored cards in the game, and, for many years, the only four-colored cards in the game, so I thought that they would all be guaranteed to be reprinted for that reason.
I am very pleased to see that both Artifact Mutation and Aura Mutation are being reprinted, as those cards have been long overdue for reprints, so I now am very hopeful for a reprint of Essence Vortex.
There was no need for yet another reprint of Sol Ring, but it is a powerful card, so I should not complain about it.
October 28, 2016 3:42 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #40
Phaetion, I am sorry that I need to ask, but what does "RFG" stand for?
October 28, 2016 3:44 p.m.
DemonDragonJ: Exile. It's me trying to skirt around the terminology introduced in M10.
October 28, 2016 4:19 p.m.
I've added about 6 cards into the system. Just awaiting review. Also, this would be the first time I submitted cards into the system, so I don't know what's expected of me.
October 28, 2016 4:35 p.m.
Phaetion, just fill in every field you can, :)
I think C16 (the new ones, anyways, are all submitted by now)
October 28, 2016 4:55 p.m.
Ok. I didn't fill in all of the since I'm in such a rush to try out the decks, so my submissions are pretty empty.
October 28, 2016 5:03 p.m.
Someone said earlier that the Saskia deck was a bit bland. Feel like I agree, unfortunately Iroas, Blind Obedience and a couple of others can't really save it, though her partner commanders are pretty cool.
Seems like they have gone out their way to make Breya's deck the best and it would be the one to come out on top of the 5 played together all things considered, but all the commanders there are a bit meh.
Guardians of Hug is value-tastic and a lot of good stuff but the play style could have been full-on supported when in fact it's a bit half way.
Yidris is an excellent Commander and the deck seems very good too, though personally the Storm and Wheel approach definitely isn't my thing.
Atraxa was my go-to when the early spoilers came, I thought Saskia or Yidris could sway me when the full lists were out and I kind of moved away from Atraxa for a bit and now back again. Shame is I already have a Meren deck which is quite involved with +1/+1 counters so it's a less unique feeling....I'm a bit surprised that Evolutionary Escalation doesn't feature here yet it does in 3 others, and that Duelist's Heritage is here and not in combat centric Saskia.
We'll that's my several cents - what's everyone else's thoughts?
October 28, 2016 5:19 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #48
I was also surprised by Duelist's Heritage in Atraxa instead of Saskia.
But Im also not one to complain about a 4/4 flying vigilance double strike deathtouch lifelink lol
October 28, 2016 5:26 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #49
They do this every year though BS-T. They fill the decks with cards that will fit best in another one of the precons so you're tempted to buy multiples. All the way back to the C11 decks. On a related note, I'm really happy to see Ghave, Guru of Spores but kind of disappointed we didn't get Riku of Two Reflections.
October 28, 2016 5:37 p.m.
RedUndead40 - haha, true!
I suppose you are right MindAblaze, though this year it's making me think none is my preference and I'll make up some project I can buy singles for! Also on a similar note Evolutionary Escalation and Parting Thoughts is a nifty combo Atraxa is missing out on.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #1
Thanks Phaetion, as a fan of flavour short-sighted views of colours sometimes bother me.
October 28, 2016 8:39 a.m.