Tromokratis
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Tromokratis

Legendary Creature — Kraken

Tromokratis has hexproof unless it's attacking or blocking. (It can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.)

Tromokratis can't be blocked unless all creatures defending player controls block it. (If any creature that player controls doesn't block this creature, it can't be blocked.)

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doc_frank_18 on A mill-ion

4 months ago

Take out Tromokratis and put in Terisian Mindbreaker?

StarRushford on Delete this thread please

5 months ago

Felipix yea, i don't know how to build Malcolm either. And I understand not wanting to do flying tribal lol, I have that in my Atarka, World Render deck, it's boring.

Here are some options to big blue guys:

Octavia, Living Thesis is a big boi, who can cost not a lot sometimes. Can also play into your control, as you're casting spells, so making things big, so you can swing with big. And ward .

Lorthos, the Tidemaker is pretty self-explanatory. Also a bit of control.

Nezahal, Primal Tide... is. It's good, just not sure how to build it.

Tromokratis is 'die in 3 hits or die to an army of my other creatures' commander. Also my favorite mono-blue legendary.

Icbrgr on I'm semi-giving up magic

5 months ago

I swear as I was reading this I was thinking Tromokratis he was my very first commander I built from scratch (dont have my list anymore) that being said... my honest to goodness truth opinion on "this will be my deck of all decks/final/only deck"... Unless you very seldom play (like just a few times a year) I wouldn't do Tromokratis.

I think he is a lot of fun... a great recommendation for teaching someone to play, and pretty budget friendly to make functional... certainly has a lot of room for permission spells for the control feel...but ultimately just feels really one dimensional... and if you only play every now and again I think its totally fine but i only needed to play a few games before I really had deck envy to do something else.

I dont really have a better more knowlegable suggestion but i figured I'd at least express my concern as a former Tromokratis pilot.

Icbrgr on What commander should I run?

8 months ago

My budget blue commander was Tromokratis. Just a voltron deck with tap spells/enchantments and protection via countermagic and standard voltron tools.

legendofa on BBEG Deck Ideas

1 year ago

For my breakdown here, I'm focusing on characters who are villains in their story arc and characters who don't have much specific backstory. Pretty much any legendary creature can be flavored as a villain in front of the right deck. I'm also not focusing on the Forgotten Realms sets, I'm broadening the net.

What's available:

: Eldrazi or artifacts. Most of the artifacts are either hero-aligned or not an independent threat, like Graaz, Unstoppable Juggernaut. If you want a challenge, Omarthis, Ghostfire Initiate, but I wouldn't, just for lack of depth.

: Villains are oddly centered on Old Kamigawa. Konda, Lord of Eiganjo is a near-immortal emperor and master duelist. Hokori, Dust Drinker is destroying resources and the land. And, of course, there's the apocalyptic, unrelenting evil that is Hazduhr the Abbot.

: Heidar, Rimewind Master is an elementalist fanatic. The manipulations of Orvar, the All-Form or Kami of the Crescent Moon could cause problems, as could a big sea creature like Tromokratis or Charix, the Raging Isle.

: Pretty much everyone. It's easier to count the people who aren't outright villains.

: Relatively few actual villains, but a bunch of manipulators, dragons, and angry people that could fill the role.

: A bunch of wild animals and nature types. No scheming villains, but a good selection of rampaging monsters. Meng Huo, Barbarian King would be a unique choice (if you're willing to.proxy or drop $150+).

: Polukranos Reborn  Flip is the most (only?) villainous character in these colors.

: Lots of options, from the behind-the-scenes manipulation of Lazav, Dimir Mastermind to the illithid Captain N'ghathrod, Gisa and Geralf's necromancer army, whatever Umbris, Fear Manifest is, and a lot more.

: A few options, but lots of depth in them. Insane biologist Momir Vig, Simic Visionary and his magnum opus Experiment Kraj, nature's avenger Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath, or maybe Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait is flooding the area.

: A very deep and wide pool for villains. Vampires, demons, dragons, demon dragons, warlords, torturers...

: Grakmaw, Skyclave Ravager joins the ranks of the big scary monsters. A more calculating BBEG would probably be one of the death lords like Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord. Vhati il-Dal or Old Rutstein or probably more storyline villains than BBEG material.

: A very shallow pool. Storvald, Frost Giant Jarl, Rubinia Soulsinger, and maybe Falco Spara, Pactweaver or Katilda and Lier (mostly because of Lier) are the best options for an Archenemy villain. I'd throw Kros, Defense Contractor in, but goading is kind of limited when you're the Archenemy.

: This color set will probably be either a cold, distant, merciless villain or a manipulative puppet master. Raffine, Scheming Seer and Oloro, Ageless Ascetic fall into the first category, and Sen Triplets and The Ever-Changing 'Dane in the second. Varina, Lich Queen is another option for a zombie army.

: Big, angry, and violent, with some good dragons. Xira, the Golden Sting and Vazi, Keen Negotiator break out of this mold, but they strike me as more lieutenant-types, not arc villains by themselves.

: Not much; these tend to be either heroic or big smashy monsters. Uril, the Miststalker could work.

: Queen Marchesa is a classic, as you mentioned, and Edgar Markov is right there, too. Actually, this color set has some good depth and variety for an Archenemy. Some are more overtly villainous, and some are just very martial. My top picks would be Edgar, Licia, Sanguine Tribune, or Tariel, Reckoner of Souls.

: Mostly either weird esotericism or "nature's avenger" types. I don't think any of these are outright villainous in-story, but most of them have loose or vague stories. With the right deck, this could be a unique and interesting villain. Riku of Two Reflections is my top pick.

Four-color sets in general: Any of them would work, except for a couple of the .

: Use this color set if you want a truly apocalyptic feel. saluma mentioned Tiamat, which is a very good choice, and finding a way to get through Progenitus or O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami is a story of epic scale.

Gidgetimer on My pre made deck needs …

2 years ago

Without info on a budget it is a bit hard to suggest upgrades. However; as said before you need to lower your mana curve and focus the deck on either landfall or beaters. I would also cut 6 of the lands to go down to 38 and add in much more ramp. Cutting:

6 lands

Terastodon

Elder Deep-Fiend

Verdant Sun's Avatar

Meteor Golem

Sphinx of Uthuun

Scourge of Fleets

Tromokratis

would give you 13 free spots. If you filled those spots with 1 and 2 CMC ramp and cheap removal your games would go much smoother. Personally I'd go with 8 ramp and 5 removal, and here is where what your budget is will matter for choices.

Ramp

Birds of Paradise

Elvish Visionary

Exploration

Fyndhorn Elves

Llanowar Elves

Burgeoning

Wild Growth

Arcane Signet

Devoted Druid

Lotus Cobra

Talisman of Curiosity

Removal

Beast Within

Pongify

Cyclonic Rift

Rapid Hybridization

Negate

Disperse

Brazen Borrower

Boomerang

Divide by Zero

Gomazoa

multimedia on Satoru old

3 years ago

Hey, interesting concept, combining Ninjas with sea monsters. Well done if this is your first attempt at deck building, you have good card sense.

Some cards here that are not as good as the others that could be upgraded, even on a budget: Prismatic Lens, Doom Blade, Nemesis of Reason, Ambition's Cost, Commander's Sphere, Rogue Class, Tromokratis, Blade of the Oni.

  • 1x more Island --> Tromokratis
  • 1x more Island --> Nemesis of Reason
  • 1x more Swamp --> Doom Blade

30 lands is low when you want to get to at least four mana to ninjutsu with Satoru. Consider cutting a couple of the high CMC sea monsters that are not as good as the others, Tromokratis and Nemesis of Reason, to add a few more lands? Could just add more of each basic land or there's many other options that are more expensive price: Watery Grave, Morphic Pool, Drowned Catacomb, Shipwreck Marsh, etc. Some budget options are: Ice Tunnel (another land Marsh Flats can get), Temple of Deceit, Esper Panorama.

Prismatic Lens and Commander's Sphere could be upgraded to mana rocks that can combo with Hullbreaker Horror to make infinite mana. Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice combo with Sol Ring by repeatedly bounce/cast them with Hullbreaker to make infinite mana. Sol pays for itself plus 1 extra colorless mana each time you tap it before it's bounced by Hullbreaker. Astral is better because once you make infinite colorless then you can pay that colorless to cast Astral to make infinite blue or black mana. When you have infinite colorless then Arcane Signet or Dimir Signet can also be used to make infinite blue/black mana.

If you can create a copy of Hullbreaker from Thousand-Faced Shadow then this combo can bounce all your opponent's nonland permanents and keep doing this on each of your main phases.

Ingenious Infiltrator is a good Ninja for repeatable draw. Baleful Strix is a nice creature to enable ninjustu. Prosperous Thief is a Ninja for repeatable ramp who also triggers from a Rogue and there's many unblockable Rogues here.

Good luck with your deck.

Vincentc1 on Krabs rule the world

3 years ago

Nice, I love decks with a strong theme and it remind me of my Sea monsters Deck. I know you want to keep it mostly crab creature, but have you consider a Tromokratis? There's the promo art that really make him look like a huge crab and it's a decent beater. Have a good evening.

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