At the beginning of your upkeep, put a time counter on As Fortold.
Once each turn, you may pay rather than pay the mana cost for a spell you cast with converted mana cost X or less, where X is the number of time counters on As Fortold.
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As Foretold Discussion
2 weeks ago
I've always been enamored with secret commander decks. Whether it's Riku of Two Reflections Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer or Sisay, Weatherlight Captain Winota, I've always loved to give a card more colors then it has. But as of late, I've been wanting to build around some other cards and these are the ones that've caught my eye. For reference, I'm planning on using Esika, God of the Tree Flipas my General.
Paradox Haze : Hoo boy, this synergizes with everything. The Force Cycle , As Foretold , The Bringer Cycle , hell, you can use Starfield of Nyx to make Paradox Haze a creature and go ham with Progenitor Mimic or Followed Footsteps .
Divine Visitation : This is one of the more broken ones you could do. Any creature tokens you create become Serra Angels . Tendershoot Dryad ? That's one Serra Angel per turn. Darien, King of Kjeldor ? That's potentially 30 Serra Angels per game. The list goes on.
So what about you? What do you want to build around?
1 month ago
unstable_anomaly All that glitters isn't a bad idea at all. It effectively does what osgir's pump ability already does but without the need to sacrifice the board. Combine that with a basic voltron piece and that's easily 7 dmg a turn. So how the copy effects like Illusionist's Bracers work is similar to if you copy an X spell. So if you cast Doublecast on a spell with x in it then the amount that you payed for x will be copied. SO if x=8 then the copy will have x=8. How I understand it is that osgir's ability is a cost. So for example I activated osgir's ability and pay zero mana and exile lotus petal. I believe what happens is that the lotus petal is exiled as cost as it doesn't say target artifact but exile it as a cost. Anyways, costs are paid first. Then the ability that will go on the stack is the creating 2 copies of the exiled artifact. Just like an x spell being copies would create another copy of that same spell with the same mana spent on x, copying osgir's ability copies what is currently trying to resolve, namely that being the creation of 2 lotus petals. So if copied there would then be 2 instances of osgir's ability on the stack creating a total of 4 lotus petals (after the initial illusionist's bracers ability resolves on the stack).
So the Mox Tantalite and Lotus Bloom are really cool. So say I suspended Mox Tantalite on turn 1 and by the time I have osgir in play he is not summoning sick as well. So then what I can do to ramp is tap the mox to produce a mana. Then I use that mana to osgir's first ability to sacrifice the mox as a cost and then give target creature (even opponents) +2/0 until end of turn. After this (or during it being on the stack because sacrificing the artifact was a cost) I can activate osgir's 2nd ability to pay 0 mana to exile the mox from my graveyard. When this resolves I'll now have 2 Mox Tantalite . For Lotus Bloom it's a similar process just a different result. Lotus bloom is on the field and I sac it for that sweet black lotus mana. Then I use osgir's ability to pay zero and exile it from the graveyard. Then when this resolves I am rewarded with two more copies of Black Lotus that I can sacrifice at my pleasure!
Also no problem with the questions. And no the tokens wont have suspend counters put on them. Mox and bloom work similar with suspend in that if you want to play them from your hand the only way to do that is suspend them instead of casting, wait 3 turns, then cast them at the upkeep. However, there are cards like As Foretold and Electrodominance that allow you to play cards with cmc 0 from your hand. With cards like that you CAN cast them from your hand without suspending. However wheen creating copies of a card even with something like Mechanized Production the copies are just created without being able to suspend them even if you wanted to. There is actually a modern deck based off of this concept called as foretold. Also this concept works the same for Living End . Another modern deck where the goal is to cycle big creatures for 1 mana, get to 3 mana, then cast either Violent Outburst or Demonic Dread to cascade into living end (as the only card 2cmc or less in the deck), then cast that living end without needing to suspend as the cascade mechanic allows you to cast the card. Of course that then leads to a board wipe and all of those big creatures coming back and then you try to attack for the win.
Thx for the comment! Mind sharing your list? I think my list is definitely unrefined so I'm happy for any suggestions on things to cut/add to make it a deck that can hold it's own and being able to provide great value in an interactive game of magic.
2 months ago
WestNileWerewolf Just added a Wheels hub.
TheBlackDragon0 Do you have something specific in mind for ETB? That's a broad name, and most interactions I can think of would be covered by Blink or a tribal selection.
TheRoaringRegisaur I added a Toughness Matters hub recently, so you should be good there. Chroma and Devotion should both be selectable from the ability keywords/tribal lists under the hub drop-down menu. "Alternate cast" is too broad and vague; I worry that any deck that has As Foretold or Aether Vial or whatever would end up there. If Vega, the Watcher ends up as a major archetypes, I'll take another look.
I dropped the Cruel Control hub for two reasons. First, as said, it's not a player in any major archetypes at this point, and I removed a lot of hubs that were major players for only a single Standard season. Second, the hub was being misused by all sorts of punishing control decks, regardless of colors or card inclusion. Abzan Prison might be cruel and controlling, but it's not Cruel Control.
Lionhearted1 There's a Snow hub available, so go for it.
4 months ago
It could fit well into a Narset, Parter of Veils deck. There's Collective Defiance which is interesting(can you escalate of a CoCo, Day's Undoing is great, Wheel of Fate is a bit tougher. As Foretold works great with Wheel and with the deck mostly capping off at three cmc. Flame Slash, Pyroclasm and all the three cmc three damage variants should be enough to tie over until mid game. Counterspells feel awkward in such a deck, but you probably have to play them one cmc counters should probably be prioritized for As Foretold and keeping things off the board early. Is Disrupting Shoal playable? What about Force of Negation? Opt and Serum Visions are no brainers, what about Sleight of Hand. Do you think Blood Moon can find its way in?
4 months ago
Snogglesworth I absolutely agree, but I have to commit to the theme. Every time a new set comes out I check every card for new upkeep cards. Maybe in the future there will be more that create ramp.
And arguably, Aether Vial, As Foretold, and Braid of Fire also help this deck get ahead. Really the mana curve is so low, and you get SO SO SOOO many free creatures every upkeep with this deck that the ramp is not extremely necessary for casual play.
4 months ago
Also Thing in the Ice Flip looks amazing here thanks I don't know how I hadn't tried it I might actually try to bring them together maybe mix in Fires of Invention not sure how well it'd work though, but looks fun