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Bassara Tower Archer
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Bassara Tower Archer Discussion
1 month ago
1 year ago
I second VraskaTheCursed's suggestions regarding Dragonlord Dromoka and Karametra, God of Harvests - they both seem very slow. Plus, only playing 22 lands means you will find yourself unable to cast them often. By cutting these two creatures you'll also greatly reduce your need for Arbor Elf and thereby allow you to run more hexproof creatures like Bassara Tower Archer or the above mentioned Witchstalker. If you still want to leave a bit of late game power in the deck and budget is less of a concern then Thrun, the Last Troll would be rather welcome in those two spots as well.
1 year ago
I like the idea of a budget bogle deck, very nice.
I think what you have so far is good but it might be a bit to focused on the umbras and has a few to many three drops for what is supposed to be a very low to the ground strategy.
Umbra Mystic doesn't do much as the deck has a lot of umbras already, I suggest using Bassara Tower Archer it is a 2 drop with hexproof, and the added advantage of reach built in. you could also use Herald of the Pantheon to make the 3 and 2 drop enchantments more affordable and to get life gain in the process.
1 year ago
ok well thanks for the help i also saw an other mechanics that is really interesting
a deathtouch/ hexproof deck is it possible ? for local modern plays
1 year ago
bogles works in a budget setup BUT it is already inconsistent enough in its most perfect setup (lets not argue about the perfect setup here). its fun, aggressive, super fast, easy to pilot and doesnt require a huuuuge knowlegde of the meta. but bogles has 3 huge problems: lands, gas and creatures.
...most bogledecks have an avg cmc of ~1,5 and the deck is G/W. that means in turn two you need 2 lands in play for the deck to run at max speed. after that you want to draw aura cards. if your mana base is just basics often you wont find both colors fast enough and lose many matches because you are missing a color. yes thats with every deck but bogles really depends on it and youll feel a huuuge difference. thats why youll find Temple Garden, Razorverge Thicket, Horizon Canopy and fetchlands in almost every bogles deck. the basic land(s) and the Dryad Arbor(s) are more utility than part of the actual mana base.
...you need gas. carddraw is important. with all those super cheap cards youll have an empty hand on like turn3 and then you are in topdeck mode. if you dont already own a freaking huge creature at this point or if you dont topdeck exactly what you need you will probably not win the race. thats why youll find Kor Spiritdancer and Keen Sense in most bogle lists. spiritdancer is a cast trigger so even when your aura gets countered you draw a card. most auras cost less than the counter so this turns out to be really inefficient for your oponent. lets look at the spiritdancer as if it isnt a creature, more a card draw engine. this leads us to problem number 3...
...there are only 2 creatures in modern that really fit the deck. Gladecover Scout and Slippery Bogle. this is because you have to play them in turn one to make sure theyll hit the board. cards like Bassara Tower Archer and Silhana Ledgewalker are 1 turn to slow. your oponent can (and should) have an answer ready by turn2. most of the time you are dead if your creatrure gets countered. also they start swinging in turn3, often the game is pretty much decided at that point. thats why IoK and Thoughtseize are so dangerous, because they are turn1 threats. since the game should only last around 4 rounds you cant really plan on playing another bogle (yes it happens from time to time but thats besides the point!) and that means every other hexproof creature you draw should really be an aura card instead. so with those 2 options and spiritdancer you already run 12 creatures. no more room for more, some even say its too many already. the only time you want another creature besides your bogle and your carddraw-engine is when an edict effect is on the stack. thats why bogle runs dryad arbor.
what im trying to say is this: bogles has a very narrow and unflexible deck list. if you want to improve your chances theres not much room for other cards than those every1 runs in their bogles deck. and those arent cheap. im not saying a budget list doesnt work or is no fun to play. but its a game of numbers. make proxies and test the deck a few dozen times with both setups (budget and competitive) just to experience the difference and the similarities. i am baked and its late so please ignore, spelling, typos and my awesome grummatikk here <3
ps: and you really want Gaddock Teeg against wrath effects and some answers for Blood Moon [right now with all basics you can ignore blood moon ;)] in your sideboard (like pridemage or natures claim etc). and some artifact hate because infect is faster than bogles, Spellskite is very strong against it and ensnaring bridge (MB in All In Red nowadays, comes turn1) completely stops the deck.
1 year ago
I like the idea of setting up Soulflayer, I would suggest Golgari Thug and Splinterfright to fill up the graveyard faster. Splinterfright also doubles as a win condition and Golgari Thug can you get your Soulflayer back while filling up the graveyard. You just have to be cautious about using him with Splinterfright or Nyx Weaver in play as it would kind of defeat the purpose.
To add to Soulflayer I would suggest Sphinx of the Steel Wind for flying, lifelink, first strike, and vigilance in one package. You can also use Bassara Tower Archer in the place of Gladecover Scout to give reach and hexproof.