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Deploy the Gatewatch
Look at the top seven cards of your library. Put up to two planeswalker cards from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your deck in any order.
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Deploy the Gatewatch Discussion
3 weeks ago
Both cards were considered but both were eventually cut.
Deploy the Gatewatch due to having too few targets to hit and not being instant speed. My fear is that we tap out, hit one or two walkers that don't have relevant defensive abilities, and are then just fed to the meat grinder and die to coordinate attacks.
2 months ago
Okay! Now that I have a few more minutes to write detailed responses...
IAmTheWraith: Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants has been...surprisingly helpful? He's not the most powerful walker in the world, but his ult is neat (and this deck can actually get there). The 3 white tokens per turn are one free exile with Teysa. I could see Ajani, Caller of the Pride in that slot I suppose, but I wanted my wincons to not be defeated by a board wipe (hence why I've largely avoided "one-time" token effects). I may rethink this in the future.
Liliana, Death's Majesty has been AMAZING in this deck. Sure, her ult doesn't help much, but her -3 is invaluable and her +1 is really nice, to produce a consistent stream of blockers/sac fodder (not to mention the fantastic art). Liliana Vess is definitely an option, though - I'm still tinkering with my PW composition.
I'm not fully convinced by Oath of Liliana, but Oath of Gideon seems pretty decent here. I do not like Deploy the Gatewatch, since you need twenty-eight PWs in your deck to consistently hit 2 in the top 7 cards. And I'll think on Selfless Spirit!
Thank you all for your advice! (And is there anything you'd change in the newer draft?)
2 months ago
Hey there! I was called, some things that interest me...
Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants seems really unimpactful to me. I would recommend a different, more high powered walker for this deck, and looking over what is in the maybeboard I think that either Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath or Ajani, Caller of the Pride would be a better fit, as they can play a long game better while working towards their ultimates.
Another walker I'm interested in seeing is Liliana, Death's Majesty. I'm not sure of your personal experience, but wouldn't Liliana Vess be a better fit here? Same mana cost, seems much more versatile. Thoughts?
Also, Oath of Gideon can help speed things along and protect your board.
Something you can think about if you add more walkers is Deploy the Gatewatch, it can put so much more than 6 mana into play.
Again, just some thoughts. Hope things go well!
4 months ago
Cards I'd consider adding:
Primevals' Glorious Rebirth can be a huge swing.
Aminatou, the Fateshifter has tons of utility for little mana.
Elspeth, Knight-Errant comes down early, protects herself, can allow Atraxa to kill someone with 3 hits and her ult makes any threats you have very hard to deal with.
Oath of Gideon makes tokens to protect your walkers with, generally speeds up your ult clocks, and enables some sneaky combos, like allowing some walkers to instantly ult with doubling season that previously couldn't or allowing Tezzeret the Seeker to find The Chain Veil and stick around to untap it.
Oath of Teferi is a bit expensive manawise, but allows your walkers to go bonkers.
Shalai, Voice of Plenty can block, provides hexproof to the team as well as you (it's surprising how many annoying things say "target player") and comes with a built in Gavony Township to pump your tokens with.
This is very meta-dependent, but you look somewhat light on removal. I'd consider at least one 4-mana wipe (Damnation, Wrath of God, Day of Judgment, Supreme Verdict) and one or two more exile effects for hard to remove must-answer threats (Descend upon the Sinful, Swords to Plowshares, Anguished Unmaking, Utter End, etc.) unless you really never feel like you need them.
I've seen Deploy the Gatewatch get bad/no hits too many times to be a huge fan of it. Definitely a flavorwin though.
I'm not sure how necessary Gilded Lotus is, considering all your other ramp. Your Landbase doesn't look like you need the colorfixing, and 5 mana seems like a lot to still be ramping, even if you get 3 mana back.
Vraska the Unseen just ended up being an overpriced killspell most of the times I played her, and even if she ults, the tokens still have to untap, and not be blocked, to kill someone.
Liliana, the Last Hope's ult is very nice, but imho not really worth her other 2 pretty useless abilities.
Lastly, seeing as how high quality your landbase is, I'd consider carefully cutting back on the basics and replacing Cultivate with a Farseek and maybe a Nature's Lore. I'm running 37 lands with a pretty trashy base and rarely run into problems, but if you're rather safe then sorry when it comes to lands, that's understandable.
Good luck and have fun playing!
4 months ago
First off I have to say, definitely love the way you did the CSS/HTML scheme. Just have to +1 just for that!!!
I would love some pointers on how to do the same @[email protected]
But aside from that for some suggestions:
Hope that helps!
4 months ago
Hey thanks for the suggestions MillersEdge, I agree on likely cutting Deploy the Gatewatch as I can only see myself using around 22 or so walkers at the maximum here. I don't own an Aminatou, the Fateshifter yet but I do have the Sensei's Divining Top, and what my plan with those is to have a fair bit of top deck manipulation to make use of possibly some miracle cards like Temporal Mastery and Terminus. Additionally I might add a Nexus of Fate to the deck once I acquire one, but that's likely about all I will use for extra turn spells as this deck (the paper version isn't even finished yet) puts a big enough target on me as is lol. Primevals' Glorious Rebirth I have been thinking about, and maybe now on your suggestion I will include that somewhere's once I can figure out what needs to be cut. As for Oath of Ajani you are likely right on this one as you won't ever usually get the full value out of it. I will add however that my current paper decklist for Atraxa is still quite different as it still uses a lot more creatures towards a +1/+1 counters strategy and that is where this Oath of Ajani gets much more use. It's right now more of in-between superfriends and your typical +1/+1 counters build. I'm now leaning more towards entirely superfriends as evidenced by this decklist because I feel any compromise between the two strategies just weakens this deck.
I don't own Tezzeret the Seeker but i'm definitely looking to get one sooner or later for here for sure, and Garruk Wildspeaker I admit I have neglected attention to and so maybe I will add that to a shopping cart eventually. I really should try to make more use out of The Chain Veil and include some combos. Likewise I wish I had a Rings of Brighthearth but they certainly aren't cheap. Although I will keep an eye out for any opportunity to acquire one, and similarly that's why I don't have Vedalken Orrery now here. But tbh I do actually own a Vedalken Orrery that I got when they were much cheaper, but when you own 10 edh decks I don't like swapping cards between them especially when they all have different coloured sleeves to tell them apart. Maybe in this regard my playgroup would be fine with me proxying a few cards that I already happen to own, and so I might include it here also because you're right when it comes to the value of playing a planeswalker on other's turns.
Anyways thanks for all the suggestions as well as the upvote, at some point I will see what I can maybe suggest for your own decklist.
4 months ago
I'd be careful with Deploy the Gatewatch, as it needs 30+ walkers to really work consistently, and relying on Aminatou, the Fateshifter or Sensei's Divining Top for good hits is a big ask for a 6-mana sorcery imho. Primevals' Glorious Rebirth has been doing a better job as a blowout/gamewinning card for me, but then again, that depends on how many walkers usually hit your yard before you either go off or loose the game. It can definitely be a nice surprise against mill strats ^^
I'd also consider cutting Oath of Ajani (which I found to be the most often dead one out of the oaths you're running) and maybe some of the weaker artifact ramp for combo pieces like Tezzeret the Seeker , Garruk Wildspeaker(mostly additional ways to abuse The Chain Veil) or Rings of Brighthearth(works with all planeswalker abilities, also goes infinite with Basalt Monolith).
Vedalken Orrery is worth considering as well, enabling you to play a planeswalker on your opponent's endstep, use it on your turn, and then have mana open to protect it if needed.
5 months ago
And no Oath of Jace because I completely forgot about it when making this a true superfriends deck. So thanks for the reminder on that!!!
I don't have any flip walkers because I don't currently own any. I built this deck with cards from decks I no longer use. I plan on selling my Urzatron cause Karn Liberated and Ugin, the Spirit Dragon are crazy right now, so I'll look into getting a bunch of cards for this and my The Ur-Dragon deck.
I've never really had a game where I haven't gotten color spread by turn 3 or 4, so color fixing has never been an issue thus far. Though it could use the mana ramp for speeding it up a little bit. I thought about running the moxes like Mox Sapphire etc but apparently they are banned, which makes no sense since they are legal in Tiny Leaders.
I do have Teferi's Protection in right now which is the best fog effect out right now, especially for multiplayer games.
I just don't have much space left. If I pull out the 4 Praetors' and Toothy, Imaginary Friend that gives me 5 spots that I'm comfortable changing. Oath of Jace, Cultivate and Kodama's Reach take up 3 so far. So I could add an actual Fog and something like Tangle would work great.
And I agree that Zur the Enchanter could be a great pick. So I'll have to mull that one over.
Thanks for your input, I definitely appreciate it.
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