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For those of you who are here for some reason, I think it's fair to say that I am the resident Ad Nauseam person on this site as can be surmised from the 10000+ word primer that I have made available to all you good people. Check it out here if you are interested in learning more about one of the Modern format's oldest and best combo decks:

[Primer] - Ad Nauseam Combo [[Procellam Legit]]

Modern Oloro_Magic


On a more serious note, I have been on tappedout for what feels like a fairly long time now and, in the distant past, I was once both the #2 user and #1 helper on the site for a time until life caught up to me and I disappeared from the deck help forum for a bit. That said, if anyone ever wants help I'm more than happy to take a look at any deck though I'm more useful in areas including: Modern, Legacy, and Pioneer. I'd direct you to other users for help on EDH as I haven't played the format much in the past few years. That said, in any of the formats listed above I have a good deal of competitive experience, but am also willing to just help refine some unique decks for users who perhaps are struggling with the streamlined nature of constructed formats; this is where I would be most helpful if you want my help, taking your build and tinkering with it as I will never claim to be a great deckbuilder but I like to believe I'm a fairly good tinkerer. I can also help out with sideboarding, I pride myself on my ability to retain a considerable amount of meta knowledge.

A little about me though, I'm a classicist by training so there's that; in other words, I read Ancient Greek, Latin, Ancient Egyptian, basically a bunch of dead languages in an effort to contextualize the way the "common" person lived within the classical era, with special attention to the cross-cultural homogenization over sacred landscapes. I know that is a mouthful, believe me...

Well, this is really what lead me towards, who would have guessed, Ad Nauseam which I have now been playing for years as a way to, more or less, link my primary interests in any tangible way, which in turn possessed me to spend countless hours attempting to break down the deck for any new players that so choose to engage with it; an outcome that I will say is always rewarding. This didn't stop me from playing other decks within the modern format, I've played a fair bit of Taking Turns, GW Toolbox, and various Primeval Titan decks, but I've always come back to Ad Nauseam and can say proudly that I am today a proud owner of a quad-sleeved monstrosity of a deck because I'm odd in that way I suppose.

In summation, I'm always open to helping anyone with their deck just post a comment on my wall, otherwise I hope I didn't make this little blurb too uninteresting, I'm pretty sure people don't really read these anyway so it's fine. Check out some of my decks below, and also make an effort to leave one positive comment on a "help" marked build each day, it's a good way to get in your good deed.

Vale et / και χαιρε,


DeinoStinkus says... #1

Thank you so much for upgrading my account! I'm honestly at a loss for words.

August 4, 2020 8:24 a.m.

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The good news is that the price of singles from the set seem to be relatively reasonable in most cases, not to mention for someone who likes alt art foils the prices at some retailers are the same or lower between the two printings. It's a good set if you wanted reprints to buy, it just sucks for stores, its so expensive and you have these quality concerns. My LGS ordered one box total of this set for retail, 2 for them to open, they just couldn't be bothered.

August 8, 2020 7:15 p.m.

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In case you wanted to see the video for yourself here is the link typed out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyLCcyUAIsU&t=1s&app=desktop

August 8, 2020 7:08 p.m.

I agree with SynergyBuild about Rudy, he provides a great look at the financial work that goes into magic but he is an acquired taste to say the least so be warned.

August 8, 2020 7 p.m.

The Professor is generally a decent place to start I would say, Link. Thought I will also add that he can tend to be overly critical at times and he isn't as concerned about WOTC twitter.

Other than that most large stores have some sort of general news section though require payment for opinionated content such as StarCityGames, ChannelFireball, etc. Finding some pro-players you like as well can also be a decent source though that largely depends on the individual and their own relationship with Wizards which is hit or miss.

For product releases MTGGoldfish always does an expected value series but they will never be very critical, however their numbers are generally accurate if not their conclusions. I'm sure others can offer better independent sources outside of this. I tend to not look for these, I stick to my EV spreadsheets when evaluating product releases but that's just me, I'd rather trust the numbers and come to a conclusion.

August 8, 2020 6:43 p.m.

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That's just pathetic, it was already a horrible product in the first place in my opinion, this just makes it worse. I do wish he had done it with multiple boxes just to show how easy it actually is but regardless I agree with the guy with the camera, "Wizards messed up."

August 8, 2020 6:33 p.m.

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I think a Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper lands matters type deck could be really cool. I have a buddy who plays one that is basically a draw-go deck looking to wipe the board a bunch and take over the game as people lose resources. Cards like Tomik, Distinguished Advokist and Sacred Ground also give this type of deck redundancy. Not to mention the fact that Noyan's ability is so open, you can adjust your spells to be what you want, maybe putting in some weird jank.

August 8, 2020 6:26 p.m.

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I wouldn't bet on it dropping much further bar a reprint, it has spiked a bit too much in the past few months for it to go back down in my opinion, it would break with tradition.

August 8, 2020 1:38 p.m.


Sounds like a mixture between possible opportunists and honest mistakes by the staff, missing out of that Tezzeret kind of sucks though that is a decent card. I suppose the only advice there is to give which you likely already know is to just be alert when buying anything there, giving them some benefit of the doubt they can at least be forgetful.

August 8, 2020 1:02 p.m.

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I love the fact that we are talking about them dropping into the $30-40 range, I remember when these cards were all cheap as anything, it's just a little funny. As for the recent price drop I think there are likely three main factors to this.

The first may have been speculation on the part of some smaller stores on tcg that one or all of the titans would have seen a reprint in double masters. The first couple days of spoilers were heavily saturated with cards that often see play in modern Tron and e-tron, meaning there was the risk that one or all of these found itself into the set, of course however this did not happen, so then why are the prices still relatively low.

The more likely explanation looking at these graphs is that many of these have been steadily rising for a while now, with some notably experiencing a series of small spikes in the lead up to Double Masters which is common enough with reprint sets as buyers try to cash in on at risk cards. Below I have attached the price graph of Kozilek, Butcher of Truth to illustrate this trend:

As we can see, the titans have had a fairly unpredictable price trend the past few months, but from what I see here, the market for them reached its bursting point. This happens from time to time, the cards kept going up as demand increased (in this time frame modern tron began to play more titans occasionally), and then would crash a bit as these spikes seemed to be largely artificial from opportunists. Recently however it got so high, and factoring in that many people aren't in the position to be buying cards these days with the pandemic still raging, that the price was no longer sustainable, suppliers couldn't move them in the numbers they wanted to. Therefore it has begun to drop into what seems to me to be it's plateau price for the time being, the price people are willing to spend for it even though they are still too high in my opinion.

I will say though I'm not seeing much in way of titans under $40 as far as Kozilek, Butcher of Truth is concerned having checked a few sites. Infinite Gyre however does seems to be dropping quite a bit. Given recent trends now seems as good a time as there has been in a while at least to buy that card, as well as Aeons Torn which has been low for a while now, but I think you should be wary if anyone is thinking of investing in these, for the time being it looks like they are pressing up against their cap of supply and demand, and to me are more likely right now to collapse and drop before they rise (pun intended).

August 8, 2020 12:53 p.m.


That doesn't necessarily mean that the event is being put into the system at any risk to the store's WPN status, generally proxies are okay with permission of the pod.

The issue only really comes up if there is prizing, then people have the right to be upset, if a pod still doesn't want proxies then people find another pod. I used to run events for my LGS so I had to get really accustomed with the wizards event reporter, for our EDH day what I would always do is record it as Commander-Casual within the system and report no results. The whole point of it being "sanctioned" was basically so that we could record turnout and back when planeswalker points were a thing people would get their little amount for participating, if people used proxies we didn't care, and if for some reason all of the 7-8 pods we had going didn't want a player with proxies the staff would make a pod with that player but even that never happened we only sometimes had too many people.

So basically, from a store's perspective, because this was a casual event with no prizing, we didn't fear anyone using proxies, or alt art, or gold-bordered cards. For someone to report that they would have to be so upset that they contact the DCI independently and have our WPN status removed and we never had anyone that upset in a non-prizing event. If they still reported it, I'd like to believe WOTC has some semblance of a heart and is not going to revoke WPN membership for a casual Commander event, especially if the event didn't have prizing, however if your LGS does do prizing for commander events it could be a different story but I would still doubt it.

As for an elitist LGS, that sounds rough, hopefully it isn't as bad as you insinuate. Personally, I've always felt that its best to try and keep that out of the casual circles. If the pod is a cEDH pod, or its another format playing a competitive tournament sure, people can get upset sometimes if they are deep within that mindset, but keeping that attitude away from casual play has always been a priority in my approach.. No one wins from being like that in my opinion, especially in a format like EDH the goal should be to grow the community and increase interest in the game, not shame someone because they alter a card or can't afford a Gaea's Cradle, it's for fun, and should be approached by all players that way.

August 8, 2020 12:28 p.m.


These type of cards were from a product created by Wizards in the late 90's and early 2000's that were non-DCI sanctioned reprints of some of the top decks from the World Championships the previous year. They look like this with the different back and the player's signature printed on the front in gold:

August 7, 2020 10:42 p.m. Edited.

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Cool idea! It's very budget so I'll try to keep to that but I feel like you can get away with less lands due to your general curve, I'd be happier with something like 19 maybe 18 lands. With that additional space I'd consider finding room for Lava Dart, it's both very cheap and great Kiln Fiend fuel. I think dropping a Skullcrack, a land, and 1 Thunderous Wrath could facilitate this and would also potentially aid in continuing the thesis of this deck.

To this end, I wonder if you have tried Viashino Pyromancer in the Hellspark Elemental slot? The appeal to the former is it at least guarantees 2 damage. It's power is lower yes and it doesn't have haste but I feel it may be worth a shot. Basically I want to see if you can get this even cheaper.

August 6, 2020 9:52 p.m.

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I do own a Flusterstorm but I wouldn't say it's much of a concern right now that I want to play it. Frankly not enough decks are playing Flusterstorm right now for me to actively want to prepare for it specifically. That said, I have noticed that it is rising in popularity in some of these UR and UB control decks looking for more options, and it has never really left the consideration of storm players, but as per mtgtop8 Flusterstorm in the past 2 months has seen play in 2.7% of sideboards at an average of 1.1 per deck, making it the 84th most popular sideboard card in the modern format. As for mtggoldfish, unfortunately they only list the top 50 in which Flusterstorm does not appear. Now I will grant you that meta-data is not particularly accurate right now, however from my own matches in the past couple weeks I haven't seen Flusterstorm appearing at an alarming rate and as such I haven't felt the need to address it.

Veil of Summer is our best answer to Flusterstorm but even then, Flusterstorm is really only very good against the deck in a counter war meaning our opponent is at an onus to have more than one counter. If Flusterstorm is their only counter then on the combo turn it is effectively a Mana Leak against Angel's Grace and Ad Nauseam. This doesn't mean it's necessarily correct to use it as a Mana Leak, perhaps they hold it to have 4 copies against Lightning Storm but if I have reason to believe they are holding Flusterstorm I will be sure to have mana available to cast Veil of Summer.

In many ways then it is a matter of awareness on our part playing against an opponent we believe to be playing Flusterstorm, or an opponent we have reason to believe could be playing it. Generally the matchups where it comes into play, bar the storm matchup, tend to go longer, meaning we will have more mana to respond to it early and potentially render it useless dependent on the amount of counters our opponent has to raise the storm count. I agree that if we aren't prepared for it it can be very good against us, but the meta share just isn't there right now for me to take decisive action. If the trend continues though and more people begin picking it up, especially if it begins to show up a bit more in UW, Bant, or UGx Rec, where thus far it hasn't really become a staple with those decks either not playing it or playing their own Veil of Summer, then I would be interested in perhaps playing an extra card in the board, in the form of my own Flusterstorm, to combat this, but Veil of Summer is more than enough to deal with it with the current numbers I have been seeing.

Have you had a different experience as of late? With metadata in a weird state of flux right now it would be nice to have a bit more firsthand knowledge on the topic as I seek to evaluate an increased volume of play for a problem card like Flusterstorm, but as for me it hasn't posed a huge problem as of yet with it not appearing commonly in what I consider the best control decks in modern.

Thank you for the comment, it's always appreciated.



August 6, 2020 4:09 p.m.

As someone who is French, no; I disagree that French came from Cthulu lol.

August 6, 2020 2:29 p.m. Edited.

Like you say it kind of depends on your playgroup. Personally I have used them in a variety of commander decks without much issue in multiple playgroups over the years, maybe just the casual "go buy the real card expletive" or general banter, but never outright opposition to their use in casual pods, of course for cEDH I'd always go buy the real card.

The one thing you will have to watch with them though is the sleeves you use, they do have a different back so light colored sleeves are a no-go unless you are using shadowed inners and even then its better to be safe than sorry. I agree though some of the cards that have world championship printings are far too high in price for casual play so just getting the go-ahead from your playgroup should be fine.

August 6, 2020 1:54 p.m.

Hey, any issues with editions of cards should be directed to this forum where a moderator can help solve the issue: Official Missing/Incorrect Card Thread.

As for the GP versions, make sure they aren't listed as a variation, for example with Path to Exile, Lightning Bolt, and Sol Ring.

Basically the site codes the promos under the same general tri-set code with a variation number for the correct art, note however that sometimes the price wont be accurate as our moderators have to update that by hand which takes a long time and they already do enough frankly. The above printings can be achieved using the following card codes:

[[card: Path to Exile (000:3)]]

[[card: Lightning Bolt (000:2)]]

[[card: Sol Ring (000:2)]]



August 6, 2020 1:39 p.m.

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Hey! Just wanted to say thanks for the upvote on my deck!

[Primer] - Ad Nauseam Combo [[Procellam Legit]]

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August 6, 2020 2:05 a.m.

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Hey mate, thanks a ton for the upvotes and the shootout, that was wholly unnecessary but very much appreciated. Good luck and good draws!



August 5, 2020 12:36 p.m.

Yeah I agree with the above, Basri Ket really isn't doing anything here, you could however play Gideon of the Trials or Nissa, Voice of Zendikar in that slot if the idea is to have another 3 mana walker that makes some form of moderate impact on the game, the former as a piece of protection, the latter as a form of token generation.

I also agree with the sentiments about Blind Obedience it could be okay sideboard tech if a mono-red deck starts seeing play but other than that it will just sit there, you are better off playing some form of value creature like Brazen Borrower or more removal as outlined above.

August 5, 2020 12:29 p.m.

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Cool deck, and beautiful page design ;) +1'd!

August 5, 2020 12:20 p.m.


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