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Glorious Anthem Discussion
1 month ago
So now I'm going to organize this post is from different types of cards and alternatives and/or strictly better cards that have the same Converted mana cost!
Let's start with enchantments! It seems like your all over the place, which is fine, but you have aura enchantments and land enchantments. which seems a little weird to me! Normally you want to either go a route for your deck, and this seems unorganized, so let us fix that! Serra Aviary is a bad card, cause it also gives opponents fliers +1/+1, we don't want this. So id suggest either going with some like Citadel Siege cause sure, it won't buff all creatures, and it'll give a boost to one creature you want per turn, or it can be used defensively which is always a plus! I'd also suggest going Dictate of Heliod cause it gives an extra +1/+1 for one extra mana, AND IT HAS FLASH! For cards that are better for the 4 cmc are Light from Within , Force of Virtue , Marshal's Anthem .
For protection cards or cards that accumulate value, instead of Angelic Renewal and Angelic Accord , cards which can be good, but you don't have a whole lof of life gain or recursion to run these two! So I'd suggest cards like Sigil of the New Dawn , Kindred Boon , Privileged Position and Asceticism are 100% more effective in protecting your creatures or giving good value.
Now that we got enchantments out of the way! lets work on these instants! I love some of these instants, Absorb is a fun card that I'm 100% gonna get, same with Archmage's Charm ! Disdainful Stroke , Essence Scatter (and the like), Commencement of Festivities and Guardian Angel are all weaker versions of cards like Mana Drain and Counterspell which I'd upgrade with. I'd also suggest getting some artifact/enchantment removal such as Krosan Grip one of the best in this as it has split second, another card I highly recommend is Bant Charm one of the most versatile instant printed in these colors. some other instants i enjoy and have seen good results with are Teferi's Protection , Plasm Capture / Mana Drain , Render Silent , Arcane Denial , Dawn Charm and Heroic Intervention . Those are just some of my recommendations! I may have some more but You'd really need to let me know what direction you want to go!!
For sorceries, you're in gosh darn green! WHERE ARE THE RAMP SPELLS?!!??!!? Add Farseek , and since we have big fatty CMC angels, Recross the Paths puts in some work! Kodama's Reach and Explosive Vegetation are better than cards like Rampant Growth because 1) it gives card advantage (2 lands for 1 card) and 2) gives us more mana to work with during the late game! (this is when angel decks typically win). other ramp spells I use are Cultivate and Traverse the Outlands .
I've noticed this deck does not have a SINGLE BOARD WIPE, as big as our angels are for the CMC, we won't be able to cast them until later, board wipes are essential to have especially since you aren't running any pillow forts kind of cards, I HIGHLY recommend adding some, cards that I've always had in my white decks are Austere Command , Rout , Supreme Verdict , Cleansing Nova , Descend upon the Sinful , Planar Cleansing and Mass Calcify . Some other sources that are more focused with tribal is Harsh Mercy sure each player gets to pick a creature type, but that typically is one creature for them, and of course we'll pick angels, so we get the upper-hand in this!
We need some card draw, and this is important as I don't see any in this deck and that is a HUGE mistake. Think about adding cards like Rishkar's Expertise , Praetor's Counsel , Blue Sun's Zenith , Sphinx's Revelation , Finale of Revelation just to name a few that come to mind.
For Lands, these look just.....fine albeit slow, but not quite optimized. I totally understand how people on a budget don't run cards like Misty Rainforest and the like. But as a 3 color deck, I suggest adding in cards like Temple of Enlightenment and Temple of Plenty at least you'll get value from them coming in tapped. Other cards I'd suggest are Krosan Verge , Prairie Stream , Flooded Grove , Wooded Bastion , Seaside Citadel , Path of Ancestry , Forbidden Orchard (cause what is a 1/1 to our angels? PFFT) other lands that give some utility in a pinch are: Scattered Groves and Irrigated Farmland ! other good cards are Glacial Fortress (and it's kin), Hinterland Harbor and Temple Garden !
For Artifacts, I see the signets, I don't typically run the
and X signets just cause I like my land ramp better and won't get destroyed with target removal or artifact/enchantment wipes. but as a 3 color deck, you 100% NEED
basically makes all your mana problems go away, just tap lands for whatever color you need! If you're trying to go for some voltronish cards, I'd suggest going like
, which basically secures that you keep whatever creature you want alive for the rest of the game (unless they exile it with a spell somehow).
is also a good card as people won't want to block because it exiles shit, which is GREAT, let me tell you how many times people didn't block because they wanted to keep their creature(s).
For tribal support cards, there is a very small pool to chose from, So you might want to grab a Vanquisher's Banner , Herald's Horn , Urza's Incubator , Door of Destinies , Coat of Arms , Stoneforge Masterwork and Cryptic Gateway are some cards to look at!
Ok, lets finally get this creature situation fixed! first of, YOU'RE AN ANGEL DECK WITHOUT ITS PRIME GURL!?! WHERE IS MY Avacyn, Angel of Hope ?!?!?!??!!?!?!? I'm disappointed!!!! But for real, add her.
Other cards considering should be Metallic Mimic (if you're going for a 1/1 counter theme.) Solemn Simulacrum should go in here, he's just too good not to have here! Rhonas the Indomitable is a great mana sink, and if you really need to give trample to your creatures, Nylea, God of the Hunt is also a good alternative. Resplendent Angel is a great 3 cmc angel, don't underestimate this gurl! Sephara, Sky's Blade is also a great (shittier) version of our gurl Avacyn, Angel of Hope but still a good effect none-the-less! Iridescent Angel , for a 7 mana angel, I was hesitant at running her in my jenara deck, but has proved to be SO GOSHDARN STRONG! Can literally take ANY damage from ANYTHING (don't mention the Eldrazi to this gurl) but it has soaked up a lot of damage over my games. Archangel of Tithes is a great 4 cmc angel that gives taxes for attacking and defending! great include! Angel of Invention a fabulous card, especially if you have something that gives +1/+1 counters, say a Bow of Nylea , is a great addition to our squad! Angel of Serenity is a good card here as well! great recursion for this deck! since we're in bant, Stoic Angel is also a good include! Akroma, Angel of Wrath can't go wrong with an 8/8 creature with so many keywords and protection(s)!
Also, there is ONE card that is SO GOSHDARN UNDERRATED AND NEVER PLAYED and has literally been the BIGGEST beater I've EVER seen is non-other than Selfless Squire . THIS GURL...Where are my words for this card. It's a fog effect but you get a MASSIVE creature that has to be answered or your opponent die! I've had people swing at me for 20+ damage, not worried because of Selfless Squire and she becomes a huge creature, give her trample and/or indestructible, good game! This gurl is so badass she can oftentimes beat an ELDRAZI TITAN 1v1 (in terms of power/toughness). Best and most fun card I'VE EVER PLAYED IN A CREATURE! 50/10 would recommend!
1 month ago
I've played a Trostani, Selesnya's Voice EDH deck and the strength of populate usually comes from big beefy token generators. 1/1 bird tokens with flying are great for the evasion, but you'll probably get more value and be more threatening with cards like Advent of the Wurm and Armada Wurm and Desolation Twin .
Hope this helps!
2 months ago
Ok Niko, Quick Breakdown of what you've got here.
I notice several themes integrated into the deck. You should probably only focus on one theme, and if a secondary theme crops up take advantage of it's synergies. Right now I'm seeing:
Tokens Populate Soldiers Lifegain Creature Count Matters Enchantments Matter
Next we look at targeted removal:
Wanderer's Strike - Just one removal spell is too few. What happens if someone plays a dank artifact or enchantment? Do you just die to it?
Next we'll look at boardwipes:
Hour of Revelation - Some heavy restrictions here. Do you really want to wait for your boardwipe to become discounted? This is also too few board wipes. What happens if the creatures are indestructible? Or if Someone plays around Hour of Rev?
Next we'll look at ramp:
Smothering Tithe - Excellent choice, and a real over-performing option as well.
Ashnod's Altar - Excellent way to make use of your tokens and small costed buddies.
Everflowing Chalice - Aight, not my first pick, but it's aight.
Sol Ring - Duh
This is a pretty good ramp package, but I think we could upgrade it.
Next we'll break down your card draw options:
Mentor of the Meek - Decent in this deck. Sure the tokens you want to make the most of don't work out, and a few cards you play can turn this on. I like him, lets optimize creatures around him to make him better.
Skullclamp - Ayup!
Two cards that draw for you is a good start, lets add in some more.
Alright, let's cut everything that isn't a creature, that doesn't make tokens on its own, that isn't removal, card draw, boardwipes, or ramp, that doesn't have synergy with your commander.
Ajani's Welcome - A great card, but definitely reserve it for a build where you abuse your life totals more so than make creatures.
Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit - Most of your creatures are tokens.
Angel of Glory's Rise - Anti-synergies with your commander, and the tokens it creates.
Angel of Renewal - We can find a card that does something better.
Angelic Accord - We want to make angel tokens, but we're not here to gain life.
Angelic Chorus - While this looks good, it generally equates to 4-5 life a turn. Not bad, but not amazing for the investment in this deck.
Angelic Exaltation - Boy do I have mixed feelings on this card, suffice it to say, if you have no creatures, this card sucks. You might have no creatures when you draw this card. That would suck.
Elite Inquisitor - A good card, but we can do better.
Fiendslayer Paladin - A good card, but we can do better.
Forebear's Blade - There's a little synergy here, but to be honest you want a huge discount from this, and you're not likely to get a consistent discount.
Glorious Anthem - A great spell for a tempo based weeny deck. This is a cast based token deck.
Lena, Selfless Champion - You have so many more token creatures than non-token ones, and your zombie tokens don't benefit from her selflessness at all.
Martyr's Bond - This has potential in a deck that sacrifices it's stuff to maintain board control. I don' think this is a bad card, it just isn't a good enough fit.
Power Conduit -Here's that counter theme again.
Preeminent Captain - Soldier theme.
Sigil of the Empty Throne - Enchantment theme
Squad Captain -Creature count matters theme.
Standing Troops - A good card, but we can do better.
Sunblade Angel - A good card, but we can do better.
Umbral Mantle - I may have missed what this was for.
Veteran's Armaments - Soldier theme again.
Wanderer's Strike - A good card, but we can do better.
Now, I am well aware that this is a lot of cards. Let's shore up your deck, maybe by analyzing your win conditions.
God-Eternal Oketra + Creature Spells = Profit
Token Makers + Divine Visitation = Profit
Expendable Tokens + Ashnod's Altar = Profit
So you win by smacking with a bunch of medium sized tokens, most of the time. This means you need to do three things, Play creatures, Draw Creature spells, and protect your creatures.
Let's start by adding in some badass creatures that fit in your deck well.
Loyal Sentry - One mana has never been spent so well. In the late game it makes a token, in the early game it swings for damage, in the mid game it blocks and destroys pesky creatures.
Knight of the White Orchid - A bear with first strike that ramps you. Pretty good.
Oreskos Explorer - I would never play this in a non-mono-white deck. This does however let you catch up if you are late on land draws, and is at worst a bear to block with.
Boreas Charger - Ramp bud, ramp in mono-white whenever possible. Helps that you could make a zombie, or sac it to skullclamp.
Brimaz, King of Oreskos - I heard you wanted more cats? Can I convince you to play more cats?
Leonin Warleader - This was a card in your maybeboard, its really good.
Oketra the True - This is a fairly good card. Big blocker, or a token generator if you're doing poorly. I often hold her in hand to dump and rebuild after a board wipe.
Ranger of Eos - Only a few cards in your deck that this can retrieve, but a refill alongside making a zombie is an incredibly reserved play that could prevent you from over committing to the board.
Crested Sunmare - Don't get confused. This card cares if you gain life, but not how much. You have plenty of life gain left in the deck to justify making an army of 5/5 indestructible horses.
Geist-Honored Monk - Build a board, save for right after board wipes, or to pull ahead and force one. This is at worst a 3/3 with Vigilance, and two 1/1's with flying for 5 mana. Most often, this will be a 5/5 with vigilance, two 1/1's with flying and a 4/4 with vigilance for 5 mana.
Sun Titan - Sun Titan is Sun Titan. No mono-white deck could be ashamed to run it.
Angel of Serenity - This card is heavily underrated. It is removal, with the possibility to come back, but its also an easy way to sneak in a lethal attack while generating some board presence.
Good on creatures now? Awesome, let's look at Instants.
Swords to Plowshares - Remove that creature.
Generous Gift - Remove that Permanent. Oh and make a creature smaller than my Zombie tokens.
Disenchant - Get that Artifact or Enchantment off my battlefield and in your graveyard.
Rootborn Defenses - Yeah, this.
Unbreakable Formation - This can win games, or prevent the loss of games.
Return to Dust - Fuck these two things in particular, or just one if it's that bad.
Charge Across the Araba - Talk about stupid unpredictable win-cons for a mid-range token deck. This is one.
That about wraps up Instants, now Sorceries.
Divine Reckoning - Protects your general, but still clears the board.
Hallowed Burial - For those mf'ers that don't die.
Austere Command - A very utility board wipe.
Lastly add in a Land Tax
3 months ago
First of all, I would replace Angelic Gift With either Gryff's Boon or Rancor , just like you said in the description. Why? Because Rampage of the Clans would destroy it, and it gets returned to your hand/battlefield whatsoever. Then, I would highly recommend a few copies of Collected Company , since it can be cast in an opponent's turn. Did it occur to you that red als also some great centaurs? For example, Burning-Tree Shaman , Stonebrow, Krosan Hero , Nikya of the Old Ways and Fanatic of Xenagos . Utopia Sprawl is in my opinion better than Verdant Haven . Then there's Conclave Cavalier , which is totally bonkers, although that strategy would not be effective when running Collected Company . Rosemane Centaur is also a good addition, but mainly if you run lower CMC creatures. And even though Genesis is not a centaur, flavourwise it would be a nice addition to this list. Maybe one copy of Fated Intervention for some instant-speed pressure. Tribalwise, I would highly recommend Metallic Mimic or Adaptive Automaton to replace the Stoneforge Masterwork , and you can even sacrifice them to Rampage of the Clans , for more value/pressure. Maybe a Mirror Entity to boost your crew in mid/lategame? If your having trouble getting the right creatures at the right time, maybe Eladamri's Call would be a nice tutor in this list. For fun, I would maybe even run a copy of Descendants' Path . You could also add some artifacts that suit nicely in any tribal deck. Think of cards like Icon of Ancestry , Obelisk of Urd , Bow of Nylea , Eldrazi Monument or maybe even Coat of Arms . Maybe even add a Selesnya Signet for fixing. All artifacts which you can even sacrifice to Rampage of the Clans . Also consider some Changelings, since they're basically just Centaurs... Chameleon Colossus . You could also add Oath of the Ancient Wood , if you're planning on running this amount of enchantments/auras. Then there's lands. I realize you want to keep this list budget, that's ok, in your case I would still run several Canopy Vista , Fortified Village , Temple of Plenty , Mutavault (which is a centaur), or Oran-Rief, the Vastwood . Chronicler of Heroes goes nicely with Lagonna-Band Trailblazer . Centaur Omenreader is also a pretty solid card by simple making your creatures cost 2 less when it's tapped. You also need cardadvantage. Think of cards like Harmonize . Also, in this meta, you'll need some hard removal. Think of cards like Dismember , Path to Exile , Generous Gift or Beast Within . You can also consider some allround lords and anthem effects. Maybe cards like Wilt-Leaf Liege , Always Watching , Glorious Anthem , Gaea's Anthem , Radiant Destiny , Hall of Triumph , Force of Virtue , Beastmaster Ascension or Collective Blessing . Maybe even a Song of Freyalise ? Yet again, all cards you can eventually sacrifice for Rampage of the Clans . You could even add some retrieval in this list, think of cards like Noxious Revival , Regrowth or Eternal Witness . Sideboard wise, I would highly recommend cards like Rest in Peace , Stony Silence , Dryad Militant , Krosan Grip , Damping Sphere , Grafdigger's Cage , Leyline of Sanctity .
This is it for now. When anything relevant comes up, I will let you know.
Keep up the good work.
5 months ago
Lets start with your CMC. In order for an aggro deck to be fast, the mana curve for the deck needs to be incredibly low to the ground. With that in mind here are some creatures that are all sub-three CMC:
- Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit
- Boros Reckoner
- Thalia, Heretic Cathar
- Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
- Tithe Taker
- Mentor of the Meek
- Ballyrush Banneret
- Haazda Marshal
- Aerial Responder
- Frontline Medic
- Consul's Lieutenant
- Bounty Agent
- Mirror Entity
- Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip
- Thalia's Lieutenant
- Akroan Hoplite
- Champion of the Parish
- Legion Loyalist
- Metallic Mimic
- Recruiter of the Guard
- Swiftblade Vindicator
- Legion Warboss
You are also gonna need to give your creatures haste, and one of my favorite cards does just that for next to nothing; Mass Hysteria .
Here are a few cards I also think would be really good support, or are staples in this archetype:
- Unbreakable Formation
- Brave the Elements
- Teferi's Protection
- Collective Effort
- Citywide Bust
- Militia's Pride
- Brave the Sands
- Glorious Anthem
- Chance for Glory
- Spear of Heliod
Lastly... I know you said you avoided it intentionally but... I think it was a mistake... You need more ramp. The more ramp you have the faster you can play dudes the faster you can kill someone. So Mana Crypt , Sol Ring , Boros Signet , Chrome Mox , etc. I think you should play at least 5 ramp artifacts to really help you get that overwhelming force, because on T4 you now have to live in fear of WoGs
Ok that's all... he said after posting a page long comment... Sorry. <3 If you need help with cuts anything above 4 cmc should be the first things to go with the exception of Cathar's. get your CMC as close to 2 as you can.
5 months ago
Since you're using Dash costs, which to be honest I had never heard of before now but good for you for using it, Brave the Sands does not seem like a good fit. You creatures will be returned to your hand at the end of the turn, they do not need vigilance or better blocking. The ones that aren't dashed in will likely be better off alive than blocking, and I doubt your opponent will tap out against you with such a threat of burst damage. Speaking of burst damage, Lightning Bolt , Lightning Strike , and other burn cards may give you the reach you need once an opponent begins to develope a board to contest yours. Instead of Brave the Sands , I would recommend cards such as Mardu Ascendancy , Flowstone Surge , Glorious Anthem , or Goblin War Drums .
Dash Hopes , while flavorful (which may be good enough to keep it in, your call), is not particularly good. Mardu counterspells include Lapse of Certainty , Pyroblast , Red Elemental Blast , Imp's Mischief , and Withering Boon depending on what you need for your play group. Though to be honest, I'm not sure whether you need them. The counterspells are what I would replace for extra burn or card draw.
Hope this helped and good luck with your deck!
5 months ago
6 months ago
If you insist on going with an Enchantment anthem effect, I think I'd rather have Honor of the Pure , Glorious Anthem , or Marshal's Anthem for those turns where you have a ton of mana and a locked up board state.
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