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Creature — Zombie
Liliana's Elite gets +1/+1 for each creature card in your graveyard.
Liliana's Elite Discussion
5 months ago
Sorry to butt in, but for a low-to-the-ground aggro zombies deck I would keep Diregraf Ghoul in. 1 mana for a 2/2 is a good rate, you want low cost creatures to flood the board with, and it gets pumped by the zombie lords so it's still fine later in the game. Here are some specific suggestions for upgrades once you get a budget for them:
Some other cards you could look at are Diregraf Colossus , Undead Warchief , and Dark Salvation (it's probably worth playing Salvation in place of Murder ). Also, as a general tip, tribal creature decks don't play many non-creatures--around 6 at the most. Cutting some of those spells in favor of more lords would increase the efficiency and power of your deck.
5 months ago
Dedicated zombie tribal could be cool, and it seems you're already headed in that direction, so I'd check for any specific zombie lords you're missing ( Lord of the Undead for example) if you want to pursue that direction for your deck.
As for specific adds and subtracts;
Subtracts; Killing Wave (people will just pay the life for what they want to keep, I'd replace this with Torment of Hailfire or Exsanguinate or an actual board wipe). Bontu's Last Reckoning almost makes you skip your entire next turn just so you can cast Damnation for one less mana. I'd recommend Mutilate over it if anything. Cruel Edict is bad, Liliana's Triumph and various other cards are much better for this effect, probably including Innocent Blood . Liliana's Elite is probably mediocre most of the time, Liliana's Reaver is just bad. Graveyard Marshal isn't actually great for zombies, there are lots of better ways to make zombie tokens if you want. I wouldn't recommend him. Desecration Demon will probably never be useful in EDH so I wouldn't recommend him, if your opponents really can't just handle taking the 6 damage to the face in the air then they'll definitely just have a creature to sacrifice to stop it. Its not a good card in EDH at all unfortunately. I think Greed or Erebos, God of the Dead > Arguel's Blood Fast Flip. Also, I wouldn't recommend some of your planeswalkers; i love liliana but some of those cards are downright useless in EDH (if you manage to do a single thing with Liliana, Death Wielder I'd be shocked).
Add; Dictate of Erebos ( Grave Pact with flash). Dark Prophecy , Midnight Reaper and various other similar effects to help you draw more (which I think your deck will want to do, and black has a million options for drawing cards, especially when things die). Definitely Corpse Augur and Graveborn Muse too. Toxic Deluge is also a better board wipe than most of your removal. I'd probably recommend Stitcher's Apprentice as well, to help you get some cards in your graveyard. I'll think of more if you want, there's such a wide variety of cards to use in black zombies.
Also, your deck has multiple tutors, but not really any obvious win conditions to look for. Can you tell me what you think you'll be tutoring for most of the time? I'd say Gray Merchant of Asphodel as its probably your strongest card, but you also don't have much reanimation to back it up a lot of the time.
1 year ago
Liliana's Mastery and Liliana, the Last Hope I know the planeswalker is over the price, but its pretty solid for a zombie deck. Disallow would be ebtter rather than Cancel. Metallic Mimic and Adaptive Automaton for any tribal situation. From Under the Floorboards is good if you have a way to cast it by madness cost. Graf Harvest is solid for making all your zombies have menace. Bontu's Monument to make some of your creatures cheaper, and maybe even Bontu the Glorified as a sac outlet for creatures like plague belcher. If you had Gavony Unhallowed it'll help with buffing it up. Liliana's Elite could potentially be big, with the creatures that are in your graveyard.
1 year ago
@Rikente, I wouldn't concern myself with adding zombies. My deck only runs Wayward Servant and Gravecrawler and everything works just fine. Wayward Servant's ability is too weak to be used for anything other than an infinite combo. Gravecrawler I wouldn't mess around with unless you're bent on abusing him with Skullclamp or Grave Pact.
If you must add more zombies for value I'd suggest Taurean Mauler, Fleshbag Marauder, Liliana's Elite, Scourge of Nel Toth, and Mirror Entity since those cards are good regardless of if they're in a zombie deck or not. If you want an easy way to recur your Wayward Servant then I suggest adding Volrath's Stronghold or Unholy Grotto as a budget alternative.
1 year ago
Looks great! I'm heavily considering overhauling my golgari deck into something that functions a little more like this. On a side note: have you considered Liliana's Elite? That could be a decent sized creature by turns 4-5.
2 years ago
2 years ago
Also, I just started re-updating this deck like 30 seconds before you commented (lol). I like having only creatures for this deck, it makes it a fun challenge.
2 years ago
Screeching Skaab vs. Withered Wretch. Wretch is the only creature in here focused on exiling from the grave, which is good if an opponent is running reanimate but as the only card in here that does that, I'd just ditch it and go with the self mill idea. Maybe think about finding a couple cards with flashback that help retrieve an instant/sorcery from the grave in case you throw out Zombie Apocalypse or Living Death. I'd suggest getting rid of the counterspells but that's just me.
Nightcreep is a cool card but seems pointless in here. You don't have any swampwalk, and it'd help your opponents out if you have Bad Moon out. I could see maybe some kind of combo with Bubbling Muck but trying to play one card off another card that you may or may not have is risky.
From the maybeboard, I wouldn't bother with Forgotten Creation, Graf Harvest, Liliana's Elite or Servant of Tymaret. The crow is perfect for the mill theme. I'd argue that Door of Destinies could be better than Coat of Arms, but ideally switch out Jinxed Idol for it. The other cards are just really good.
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