Creature — Zombie
Intimidate (This creature can't be blocked except by artifact creatures and/or creatures that share a color with it.)
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Highborn Ghoul Discussion
3 weeks ago
mattman856- Thanks for taking the time!
Perilous Myr feels weird in here, but really helps the lifeloss wincon or adds a bit to removal in the deck. I tested it last night at FNM, and it played really well with the Myrs in it. Until a 2-cost Zombie comes out with the same effect, Perilous Myr is staying in here.
Grasp of Darkness is too limited for a 2 cost. I would probably just put in more hard removal like Fatal Push or Victim of Night if it came down to it. There's enough removal in the MB for first game antics Atm. Additional defense is in the SB.
Death Baron is a utility card, and an expensive one. His deathtouch gift ability is cool but I only need one on the board for it to take. As for his +1/+1 pump: I'm not here to make huge zombies to beat with, I'm here to steal life as I make medium zombies in formidable numbers. That being said, a 4 set of Death Baron will not boost my archetype enough, and throw my curve to the high end, to justify a $40 addition to the deck.
Thanks for your input!
3 weeks ago
I love the deck, but some of the cards you're playing seem underpowered for modern. Playing a Highborn Ghoul into a goyd cannot be a good feeling. Same for Ghoulcaller's Chant into Ancestral Vision, Bone Splinters and Path to Exile, etc. I think the best way to improve the deck from here is likely just to find more powerful versions of the cards you're playing. For example, with all your 1-mana removal, I bet Bone Picker is a better threat than Highborn Ghoul.
4 weeks ago
ShiftyJeans- I like Plague Belcher. the cost isn't bad for its p/t and it's second ability is undeniably devious in conjunction with Geralf's Messenger. I'm very unfamiliar with the new Amonkhet set, so thanks for bringing it to my attention!
As for Graf Harvest, the cost is nice as I like a low cmc in my decks, and the evasion is cool, but the second ability turns me off a bit as I should be able to play a lot between my graveyard and hand with 4 mana without it on the board. More zombies are always nice, but with all mechanics considered in the deck currently, I could only realistically exile Highborn Ghoul. All the other zombies somehow either reanimate or work toward the wincon of the deck.
I'm not discounting these cards as possibilities. I haven't even received my liliana, death's majesty I pre-ordered yet. So, after I playtest the current build in my meta, I'll consider these cards for the next version. I believe Plague Belcher definitely has a home in here though.
Thanks for the input!
1 month ago
I would highly recommend these zombies and zombie cards to spruce up your game, Relentless Dead, Highborn Ghoul, Diregraf Colossus since every zombie you play once he comes out now is that zombie and an additional token 2/2, plus his rez effect counts him as he comes from the graveyard so if you wanted to do a graveyard swarm strategy that's viable. Endless Ranks of the Dead, that one is a tad slower but combined with Diregraf Colossus can make a swarm happen VERY quickly. Sidisi, Undead Vizier is a good utility card that has an awesome effect when he enters and then for 5 mana is a 4/6 with death touch, that's pretty crazy for black and you don't usually see that mana cost with those stats except in green. Cemetery Reaper, Graf Harvest, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Korlash, Heir to Blackblade is a really good tank fighter if mana isn't a problem. Noxious Ghoul is another good one if you play solely zombies. Spiteful Returned is a good zombie that a lot of people overlook and Stronghold Assassin is pretty good. Unbreathing Horde and Zombie Master are also good zombie cards and finally if budget isn't an issue Death Baron is a must have for sheer scary power. Hope this pool of suggestions helps you out!
1 month ago
You have a really steep mana curve going on here, and I worry that you'll have openings hands flooded with CMC 5+ cards and you won't be able to act.
1 month ago
it would do you well to add another copy of Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, because your mana ramp is so high.
thats assuming you keep the mana curve up so high. if there's one thing that I'm proud of here, its that im the real Lord of the Undead here on the site. i've spent way too much time analyzing zombies and figuring out what works, but back to the point:
in my testings, (which there have been a lot of), i've found that zombies are meant to be fast. cards like Cryptbreaker open up draw for you later game, while giving you a creature to play on turn one, build out board state from turn two on, and so on.
Diregraf Ghoul is another one drop that seems like an unlikely card choice, but when youre able to drop multiple zombies a turn, and then make them all stronger with your lords you can easily overwhelm your opponent.
Relentless Dead has sadly been the biggest under performer for me. adding one copy of Graf Harvest does the menace job better, and the return to hand/return a creature to battlefield seems really great but is honestly really hit and miss, which is a shame. not enough to cut the card completely, but i think that a full play-set is a bit much.
Death Baron is the best zombie lord for the 3 drop slot. he pumps, plus gives everyone deathtouch. you should look into maybe adding a few.
i've also found that Liliana's Reaver didnt do enough for my own deck to stay, and i dropped it in favor of lesser mana cost creatures, things like Highborn Ghoul would work here keeping with the devotion aspect.
also, because this deck is more devotion minded then my own, you might get better use out of Sidisi, Undead Vizier and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed then i did. but for me they just cost too much to get out reliably and when they did come down, either i was already winning and it didnt matter or it was already too late
good luck with the deck, tag me if you need anything
2 months ago
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
Firebones675, I've cut the number of cards to 60 as you said.
LithiumHD, I might replace Sanitarium Skeleton with Diregraf Ghoul and Rotting Fensnake with Highborn Ghoul as soon as I can get my hands on those, and possibly sideboarding some of my answers as you said.
Have a nice day :)