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Highborn Ghoul Discussion
2 months ago
So besides your commander you have only 5 cards that have blue in them. I would go mono black if you are not utilizing that color more with card draw, counter spells, control.
Dread Slaver is good in limited but not edh, it won't stay around long for it to take a bunch of stuff and also people wont mind taking the 3 to keep their dorks. you can replace it with a better beater/ blocker i suggest Scourge of Nel Toth
take out Disentomb and replace it with Reanimate to cut out the middleman, your hand. same goes for Raise Dead i would put in Animate Dead because it puts it on the field and can take from any yard. i would also cut Gravepurge and slot in Zombie Apocalypse yeah it is double the mana but you dont clutter your top deck and get all your guys out instead of slowly over the course of a few turns. remove Macabre Waltz for Dance of the Dead for the same reasons as Disentomb. another mass reanimate spell is Living Death my opinion would to remove Urza's Incubator for it.
to get into more blue take out Sanguimancy and add in Frantic Search for free card draw basically. also remove Underworld Connections for Rhystic Study. Life's Finale can be replaced with Cyclonic Rift. You already have Lord of the Accursed so Graf Harvest can come out for Lim-Dul's Vault to set up what you need. i would take out Liliana's Indignation for Traumatize indulgence is such abad mana sink you should add Dark Salvation as a mana sink and remove From Under the Floorboards. adding Traumatize works well with cards like Undead Alchemist so to slot him in remove Liliana's Reaver in addition to buff this little synergy remove Darkest Hour for Altar of the Brood to make tokens all night.
Haunted Fengraf is slow because you sac lands and you dont even get to choose you target i would replace it with Unholy Grotto. take out Leechridden Swamp for a swamp there are better ways to get to your opponents life with your mana. graveyard decks do not need Reliquary Tower.
i see you arent running the grimgrin-gravecrawler-diregraf captain combo, i would take out Jet Medallion for Phyrexian Altar to be able to kill the table. also for replacements for the captain remove Adaptive Automaton and Prized Amalgam (its slow) for Vengeful Dead and Plague Belcher
i would also try to find more slots for a for like 4 counter spells
you can check out my list for other combos http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rise-of-the-dark-realms-4/
4 months ago
mattman856- Thanks for taking the time!
Perilous Myr feels weird in here, but really helps the lifeloss wincon or adds a bit to removal in the deck. I tested it last night at FNM, and it played really well with the Myrs in it. Until a 2-cost Zombie comes out with the same effect, Perilous Myr is staying in here.
Grasp of Darkness is too limited for a 2 cost. I would probably just put in more hard removal like Fatal Push or Victim of Night if it came down to it. There's enough removal in the MB for first game antics Atm. Additional defense is in the SB.
Death Baron is a utility card, and an expensive one. His deathtouch gift ability is cool but I only need one on the board for it to take. As for his +1/+1 pump: I'm not here to make huge zombies to beat with, I'm here to steal life as I make medium zombies in formidable numbers. That being said, a 4 set of Death Baron will not boost my archetype enough, and throw my curve to the high end, to justify a $40 addition to the deck.
Thanks for your input!
4 months ago
I love the deck, but some of the cards you're playing seem underpowered for modern. Playing a Highborn Ghoul into a goyd cannot be a good feeling. Same for Ghoulcaller's Chant into Ancestral Vision, Bone Splinters and Path to Exile, etc. I think the best way to improve the deck from here is likely just to find more powerful versions of the cards you're playing. For example, with all your 1-mana removal, I bet Bone Picker is a better threat than Highborn Ghoul.
4 months ago
ShiftyJeans- I like Plague Belcher. the cost isn't bad for its p/t and it's second ability is undeniably devious in conjunction with Geralf's Messenger. I'm very unfamiliar with the new Amonkhet set, so thanks for bringing it to my attention!
As for Graf Harvest, the cost is nice as I like a low cmc in my decks, and the evasion is cool, but the second ability turns me off a bit as I should be able to play a lot between my graveyard and hand with 4 mana without it on the board. More zombies are always nice, but with all mechanics considered in the deck currently, I could only realistically exile Highborn Ghoul. All the other zombies somehow either reanimate or work toward the wincon of the deck.
I'm not discounting these cards as possibilities. I haven't even received my liliana, death's majesty I pre-ordered yet. So, after I playtest the current build in my meta, I'll consider these cards for the next version. I believe Plague Belcher definitely has a home in here though.
Thanks for the input!
4 months ago
I would highly recommend these zombies and zombie cards to spruce up your game, Relentless Dead, Highborn Ghoul, Diregraf Colossus since every zombie you play once he comes out now is that zombie and an additional token 2/2, plus his rez effect counts him as he comes from the graveyard so if you wanted to do a graveyard swarm strategy that's viable. Endless Ranks of the Dead, that one is a tad slower but combined with Diregraf Colossus can make a swarm happen VERY quickly. Sidisi, Undead Vizier is a good utility card that has an awesome effect when he enters and then for 5 mana is a 4/6 with death touch, that's pretty crazy for black and you don't usually see that mana cost with those stats except in green. Cemetery Reaper, Graf Harvest, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Korlash, Heir to Blackblade is a really good tank fighter if mana isn't a problem. Noxious Ghoul is another good one if you play solely zombies. Spiteful Returned is a good zombie that a lot of people overlook and Stronghold Assassin is pretty good. Unbreathing Horde and Zombie Master are also good zombie cards and finally if budget isn't an issue Death Baron is a must have for sheer scary power. Hope this pool of suggestions helps you out!
4 months ago
You have a really steep mana curve going on here, and I worry that you'll have openings hands flooded with CMC 5+ cards and you won't be able to act.
5 months ago
it would do you well to add another copy of Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, because your mana ramp is so high.
thats assuming you keep the mana curve up so high. if there's one thing that I'm proud of here, its that im the real Lord of the Undead here on the site. i've spent way too much time analyzing zombies and figuring out what works, but back to the point:
in my testings, (which there have been a lot of), i've found that zombies are meant to be fast. cards like Cryptbreaker open up draw for you later game, while giving you a creature to play on turn one, build out board state from turn two on, and so on.
Diregraf Ghoul is another one drop that seems like an unlikely card choice, but when youre able to drop multiple zombies a turn, and then make them all stronger with your lords you can easily overwhelm your opponent.
Relentless Dead has sadly been the biggest under performer for me. adding one copy of Graf Harvest does the menace job better, and the return to hand/return a creature to battlefield seems really great but is honestly really hit and miss, which is a shame. not enough to cut the card completely, but i think that a full play-set is a bit much.
Death Baron is the best zombie lord for the 3 drop slot. he pumps, plus gives everyone deathtouch. you should look into maybe adding a few.
i've also found that Liliana's Reaver didnt do enough for my own deck to stay, and i dropped it in favor of lesser mana cost creatures, things like Highborn Ghoul would work here keeping with the devotion aspect.
also, because this deck is more devotion minded then my own, you might get better use out of Sidisi, Undead Vizier and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed then i did. but for me they just cost too much to get out reliably and when they did come down, either i was already winning and it didnt matter or it was already too late
good luck with the deck, tag me if you need anything