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Patron of the Orochi
Legendary Creature — Spirit
Snake offering (You may play this card any time you could play an instant by sacrificing a Snake and paying the difference in mana costs between this and the sacrificed Snake. Mana cost includes color.)
: Untap all Forests and all green creatures. Activate this ability only once each turn.
wallisface on Why is Untapping Lands a …
2 months ago
legendofa I have an issue with you contesting my statement of "a large portion of those cards are extremely old" and then deciding yourself what the goalposts should be for my own statement. I never said that only old-bordered cards are old... the current "new" border has still been in use for a ridiculous quantity of time, and the colour pie has shifted numerous times since its creation. For me, anything that was printed 10+ years ago, fits into the "extremely old" category... so if you're going to pull me-up on what's old-or-new, that is the yardstick i'm measuring.
Now, ordering cards by how old they actually are (instead of arbitrary card-frames) yields the following (using only the cards you've already listed):
1993 (31 years ago): Ley Druid
1995 (29 years ago): Juniper Order Druid
1996 (28 years ago): Nature's Chosen, Emerald Charm
1997 (27 years ago): Elder Druid, Earthcraft, Llanowar Druid
1998 (26 years ago): Awakening, Argothian Elder
1999 (25 years ago): Early Harvest
2002 (22 years ago): Krosan Restorer
2004 (20 years ago): Rude Awakening, Nature's Will
2005 (19 years ago): Stone-Seeder Hierophant, Seedborn Muse, Patron of the Orochi
2006 (18 years ago): Magus of the Candelabra
2007 (17 years ago): Woodland Guidance
2009 (15 years ago): Garruk Wildspeaker
2010 (14 years ago): Bear Umbra
2012 (12 years ago): Arbor Elf, Urban Burgeoning
2013 (11 years ago): Voyaging Satyr
2014 (10 years ago): Nissa, Worldwaker
2017 (7 years ago): Initiate's Companion, Hope Tender, Nissa, Genesis Mage, Blossom Dryad
2018 (6 years ago): Ley Weaver, Cacophodon
2019 (5 years ago): Wilderness Reclamation, Rime Tender
2021 (3 years ago): Sculptor of Winter, Saryth, the Viper's Fang, Jorn, God of Winter Flip
2022 (2 years ago): Likeness of the Seeker Flip, Civic Gardener
2023 (last year): Rustvine Cultivator, Portent Tracker
2024 (this year): Innocuous Researcher
Using the above data, the below rant is in defense of my claim "From what i’m seeing, the general trend is that this effect used to be quite prominent in green but something that’s slowly being phased out/down for green over time", which may have been the other thing you were contesting??
Now, at face value this paints a picture that indicates an-eb-and-flow of constant printings of green-land-untap effects, perhaps even slightly favoring those printings in the more recent years. HOWEVER - this does not take into account the actual percentage of cards printed in any given year.
For example, in 1996 2 cards exist in our category, BUT only 468 new cards were printed that year. 2022 also has 2 cards in our category printed, but also had 2004 new cards printed into it, meaning those 2 cards represented a significantly lower percentage of what green represented that year.
With Wotc printing an increasingly large quantity of cards every year, this effect has been getting an increasingly lower-percentage-share of cards given to it. The one anomaly I see is 2017, where 4 cards were printed in a year that made 861 new cards, making it about on-par with our beforementioned 1996 example.
legendofa on Why is Untapping Lands a …
2 months ago
wallisface I'm still going to contest that. Scryfall search comes up with 45 mono-green cards with the words "untap" and "land". Ignoring stuff like Blizzard and Choke, there are nine cards in that group with ye olde bordere that untap lands, seven with the Modern border, and fourteen with the 2015 border, skipping those whose primary purpose is to turn lands into creatures like Wakeroot Elemental. Two of them are legal in Standard, and thirteen--about a third of the total, and more than ye olde bordere--are legal in Pioneer. I'm not seeing the dropoff for land untapping in green.
Ye Olde Bordere, "untap" + "land": Ley Druid, Elder Druid, Juniper Order Druid, Nature's Chosen, Early Harvest, Earthcraft, Awakening, Argothian Elder, Krosan Restorer. total 9
Modern Border, "untap" + "land": Rude Awakening, Nature's Will, Stone-Seeder Hierophant, Magus of the Candelabra, Garruk Wildspeaker, Bear Umbra, Urban Burgeoning, Voyaging Satyr. total 8
2015 Border, "untap" + "land": Nissa, Worldwaker, Initiate's Companion, Hope Tender, Nissa, Genesis Mage, Blossom Dryad, Ley Weaver, Wilderness Reclamation, Sculptor of Winter, Saryth, the Viper's Fang, Likeness of the Seeker Flip, Civic Gardener, Rustvine Cultivator, Portent Tracker, Innocuous Researcher. total 14
Ye Olde Bordere, "untap" + "permanent": Emerald Charm, Seedborn Muse. total 2
Modern Border, "untap" + "permanent": none.
2015 Border, "untap" + "permanent": Cacophodon, Rime Tender, Jorn, God of Winter Flip. total 3
Ye Olde Bordere, "untap" + "Forest": Llanowar Druid. total 1
Modern Border, "untap" + "Forest": Patron of the Orochi, Woodland Guidance, Arbor Elf. total 3
2015 Border, "untap" + "Forest": none.
So there's 39 green cards that can untap lands in some capacity, with 34 of those being more or less land-specific. Again, these counts ignore cards that untap lands by turning lands into creatures, focusing only on those whose main function is the untap. It also ignores Un-cards.
Analysis of blue to follow.
king-saproling on Dopplegangbangers - Historic Flash Convoke Copies
8 months ago
This list looks great, definitely a good pairing of commanders. Personally I would make these swaps:
Tishana, Voice of Thunder -> The Great Henge
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite -> Grazilaxx, Illithid Scholar
Masako the Humorless -> Errant, Street Artist
Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist -> Second Harvest
Selvala, Explorer Returned -> Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
The Second Doctor -> Patron of the Orochi
Rhystic Study -> Murkfiend Liege
Heroes' Podium -> Sakashima the Impostor
Swiftfoot Boots -> Sakashima of a Thousand Faces
Neoform -> Awakening
Beast Within -> Sundering Growth
Some others you might like: Wake the Reflections, Phyrexian Metamorph, Idol of Oblivion
king-saproling on Mana Burn
1 year ago
You might like these: Umbral Mantle, Sword of the Paruns, Aggravated Assault, Benefactor's Draught, Seeker of Skybreak, Patron of the Orochi, Seedborn Muse, Keeper of Progenitus, Zhur-Taa Ancient, Archfiend of Despair, Awakening, Quest for Renewal
seshiro_of_the_orochi on mono green partner
2 years ago
This looks pretty similar to what I do with Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma in Her Royal Fluffness. I like his.
I've never thought about this synergy, but would Nyxbloom Ancient allow you to draw more cards with Gilanra? I think the "ability" she gives to her mana should also apply to the additional mana Ancient would give you.
What's more, Patron of the Orochi would be a powerful addition here. I didn't even consider Crashing Drawbridge for my Goreclaw, but it plus Patron are pretty great.
king-saproling on Lathril Elfball Queen
2 years ago
Thoughts on these? Alpha Status, Crown of Skemfar, Ivy Lane Denizen, Fallen Ideal, Eldrazi Monument, Druids' Repository, Curse of Bounty, Seedborn Muse, Patron of the Orochi
Immortalys on Reki, the History of Legends
2 years ago
I think Patron of the Orochi would probably be an excellent replacement in case people don't like to play with a Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
king-saproling on Not your typical spell slinger
2 years ago
Untapping Gilanra seems like a good way to generate lots of mana and draw more cards. Seeker of Skybreak, Instill Energy, Nature's Chosen, Curse of Bounty, and Patron of the Orochi are good options for this.
Knowledge Pool and Possibility Storm might interest you too. They allow you to get multiple Krark triggers and they turn his downside (getting the spell bounced to your hand) into a bonus.