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|MTG: Commander (CMD)||Mythic Rare|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Mythic Rare|
|Duel Decks: Garruk vs. Liliana (DDD)||Mythic Rare|
|2010 Core Set (M10)||Mythic Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Mythic Rare|
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Planeswalker — Garruk
+1: Untap two target lands.
-1: Put a 3/3 green Beast creature token onto the battlefield.
-4: Creatures you control get +3/+3 and gain trample until end of turn.
Garruk Wildspeaker Discussion
2 weeks ago
I came looking for ideas - I have been trying to build a solid EDH deck for OMG way too long. Anyway the latest EDH precon I think I may have the right pieces. Still trying to refine, and keep it to a spouse friendly cost.
A couple of things I noticed from your build - first a lot of amazing cards. If I owned these I would be hard-pressed to remove them and this is where I think you may have some issues.
I think you may be short on mana - not enough mana rocks or lands. I typically don't run less than 39 lands, unless I have creatures that can tap for mana (or have some way to create mana). Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip Awakening Zone Sword of the Animist Garruk Wildspeaker
Also, not sure there is enough card draw. Skullclamp
I also threw in Conjurer's Closet to flicker the Commander - nothing like getting a 4/4 token for free and also perhaps trigger Elemental Bond in the process.
Anyway great start. I think once you have the right balance, I would hate to play against this.
3 weeks ago
There is certainly power and some wonderful cmc heavy interactions you have here. Depending on what your matchups are you will do quite well, especially with those evasive angels. Even against my stronger decks I could see issues when squared up 1v1 with this if I couldn't lock you out with tempo plays.
how well do you find yourself operating during midgame? does it feel like you get punished for swinging in? how consistently can you play your opening hands? Does my removal always feel ideal/versatile enough for my matchups? Does my commander feel impactful enough?
These would be the questions I would use to hone cuts and additions by.
My personal thoughts: Since there isn't much in the decklist dedicated to pumping/protecting Jenara, Asura of War , I would heavily consider using Derevi, Empyrial Tactician in lieu of her at the helm. Birb lets you manipulate the tempo of the board, giving your angels pseudo vig, the ability to untap lands, and the synergy with a potential Sunblast Angel is hilarious. Always having access to derevi for 4 mana always feels good, lets you punish any crackback, and with efficient rocks can be used to great efficiency.
If you wish to keep Jenara, Asura of War as the mander, I would recommend some low cmc cards to give her battlecruiser like synergies and leave your favorite angels as curvetoppers. Pir, Imaginative Rascal , Hardened Scales , Animation Module , heck even Rancor can be devastating in an opening hand with Jenara. Most Jenara, Asura of War decks i have squared up against have been extremely punishing control decks that win almost exclusively with commander damage.
overall, for either case I would recommend these cards:
Garruk Wildspeaker almost never gets removed, acts as an aggressive rock with surprisingly more evasion than artifacts most of the time. the overrun will serve you well
True Conviction is an absolute all star in my buddy's angel deck. just deletes everyone with a stable board.
Greater Good could help you get some value out of your key pieces being spot removed.
Aura Shards even if you aren't using that many bodies, is always an extremely political and welcome topdeck in almost any game.
That being said I am almost certain the deck runs quite well as is, it is more dependent on what you find lacking as you play amongst your meta. Lowering the curve usually always helps smooth things out, but as long as it runs and you are having fun you gotta do you :)
1 month ago
Hey, just commented on your other deck.
Cards in the maybeboard to consider adding to the main deck and what card to replace:
- Command Tower > 1x Plains
- Brushland > 1x Plains
- Wooded Bastion > Selesnya Sanctuary
- Birds of Paradise > Cultivate
- Worldly Tutor > Wilt-Leaf Liege
- Chord of Calling > Shamanic Revelation
- Eladamri's Call > Increasing Devotion
- Sterling Grove > Second Harvest
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope > Emmara Tandris
- Smothering Tithe > Leyline of Abundance
- Talisman of Unity > Kodama's Reach
More cards upgrades within the budget to consider:
- Hall of Heliod's Generosity > Grove of the Guardian
- Nature's Lore > Krosan Verge
- Natural Order > Shamanic Revelation
- Regal Force > Camaraderie
- Ezuri, Renegade Leader > Marwyn, the Nurturer
- Garruk Wildspeaker > Huatli, Radiant Champion
- Triumph of the Hordes > Tendershoot Dryad
- Sun Titan > Trostani Discordant
If you would like I offer explanations of why I suggest to make these changes. Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
Tuesday Night Modern 1-2
RG Aggro brew 2-0 Opponent having an aggressive strategy that relied on pump spells. Getting to Garruk Wildspeaker to pump out blockers was sufficient to buy enough time to eventually land the lattice lock. Next game similar but finish with pumping creatures through Leyline of Abundance
Hoogakk 1-2 Again first game an Abrupt Decay to break up the combo. Second game able to grab Relic of Progenitus twice then land Elspeth, Sun's Champion to make blockers, wrath a Hoogakk and Vengevine off the board... Third game they had the nuts and i scooped on my turn 3.
One land hand with combo, just needed a second land to land a Paradise Druid , never drew it in five turns a 2 to 3 powered Tarmogoyf killed me powered by graveyards filled only with his lands and Fatal Push and my one drop mana dorks. Second game mulled to a weak four with my opponent having a strong hand. I mean it's over at that point, i played it out like a good sport...
2 months ago
After a very long while, here is the primer for my Nath of the Gilt-Leaf variant.
My variant of Nath of the Gilt-Leaf is a mid-range control deck with a very evasive removal package, flexible mana accelerators, decent hate pieces, and many powerful draw engines to put your opponents into a unwinnable position.
The Mid-Range Control variant that I brewed bridges the gaps between the two other Nath variants. Unlike the stax variation, my version uses both null rod options to slow down aggressive combo decks, relying far less on artifacts. The spot removal suite is trimmed to answer all problematic permanents that would not be present in the elf ball version of Nath. with the recent printing of Yawgmoth, Thran Physician the mid-range point where Nath has board control but no option other than pick at player's life totals until a tutor shows up, is greatly improved with Yawgmoth being available.
HOW TO PILOT THE DECK
Early Game (Turn 3 <)
Early game is about setting up draw engines with Waste Not or Geth's Grimoire + Geier Reach Sanitarium . Nath supplements them by him being out with Skullclamp or the other pieces to start pushing ahead. Against faster decks, you have to focus on acceleration with early ramp pieces to push ahead such as mana dorks. Keeping removal up against certain strategies like graveyard recursion and problematic creatures that could threaten to combo win is paramount. If you're starting hand happens to not be that fast, you can easily go get a Null Rod or Collector Ouphe with the various tutors available, or hold removal while ramping at the same time like Snuff Out , Nature's Claim or Noxious Revival for graveyard based combo. Another card to help even the playing field when your behind is Pernicious Deed , which helps you keep the game at your pace, while letting you build up your board.
Mid-Range (Turn 4,5,6)
At the mid-range point, you must be prepared for resistance and wraths by establishing the aforementioned resources. Sadistic Hypnotist with reanimation back up or Chord of Calling it in to absolutely devastate your opponent's hands is one of the most powerful ways to slow down your opponents. Another great card is Imp's Mischief to either protect your own combo, or gain value off of others cards that target. Volrath's Stronghold and Phyrexian Reclamation will allow you to continue to reestablish your postions when sweepers come. The key note is to make sure to have a way to draw cards or tutor for what you need to finish the job because Nath tends to face sweepers if he lingers a full rotation.
Late Game/Finishers (Turn 6 >)
At this point in the game, you have build up your resources far past your opponents and have a very dominant presence. With huge mana accelerants like Gaea's Cradle and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers , which is easily assembled with the tutor package, you have various mana sinks available to finish the job.
Torment of Hailfire with all of the other engines that benefit can easily knock out combo players that already abuse their life totals with little to no permanent commitment to the board. Death Cloud is the opposite, which can end a game early if Nath outpaced the the rest of the board, especially if the other players is reliant on creatures. If mana is particularly tight, a Garruk Wildspeaker ult, or Triumph of the Hordes can finish a player off. Craterhoof Behemoth is another go to, with a lot of reanimation lines available through card filters such as Anvil of Bogardan and Liliana of the Veil . With all the resources you will be building as opponents will be losing them to all the discard effects, you more often then not attrition your opponents to death.
This deck requires very calculated decision making and anticipating what your opponents' lines of play. Being very good at establishing draw engines, understanding board assessment, and piloting through bad match ups such as The Gitrog Monster Combo and Flash Hulk is the most important thing when playing Nath. Tapping out or playing recklessly can lead to you losing tempo and ultimately cost you the game, so watch for over extension and play very carefully.
If anyone has any questions or suggestions, feel free to leave a comment below, thank you.
2 months ago
Hi, I hope that at least some of what i'm going to put here will be useful, and even if you don't use any of my advice then maybe you will be able to see where I am coming from and use the logic to find your own improvements :)
As the previous commenter has suggested the amount of ramp spells that put lands in to play in your deck is a bit to low for a ramp deck especially one that has subthemes of landfall. Typical commander deck building suggestions say that you should have 10 pieces of ramp to tide you into the midgame. This goes for any deck, not just ramp decks. In ramp decks you will want more. At my count you have 12 ramp cards that are reusable (ie, aren't the one shot sacrifice elemntals) this will want to be more really, with a focus on them being ones that put lands in to play. Another of note, is that cards like Zendikar Resurgent don't really count as a ramp slot, as by the time we can cast it, we have a lot of mana already. 'Ramp' cards are ones that you want to see in your opening hand to get you into your game plan faster.
For this reason I would look into replacing some of the creature based ramp and some other low impact cards with this ramp that will get us executing our main game plan faster and better.
These can all be easily replaced with land based ramp spells as they don't get you any further ahead on mana than 1 land, or are one shot abilities when we want to be dropping big things multiple times over multiple turns.
Smokebraider Is unique because it produces 2 mana for only 2 investment, but only if we focus in on elemtals so can be left on a short list to be evaluated. We'll list other potential cuts later when looking at more over all deck evaluation.
The previous commentor has provided a list which at first glance seems to be comprehensive enough to provide some ideas for what to add.
More conventional commander wisdom suggests that you have at least 5 ways to directly interact with your opponents game plan. I personally nearly always play more than this, but you should have at least 5. This direct interaction is preferred to be the targetted simgle response cards that can remove threats in any shape or form. Of note, this removal count is seperate from the count of mass removal. At my count you have Song of the Dryads , the down tick of Domri, Anarch of Bolas and Ingot Chewer as easily accessable removal. Things like the trigger from your commander or things like Magmatic Force are more incedental as you can't rely on them doing what you want when you need it.
Cards that could be added in this slot are many. But it is a good idea to have as many as you can being generic answers to anything, but also you need to make sure that they are ones you can realistically weave into your game plan instead of leaving up those answers at all times. This is mostly a balncing act that is where fine tuning comes in from playing the deck. But potential recommendations for all purpose would be Beast Within and Chaos Warp . After that they become more specific but can be cheaper in mana,
- Nature's Claim
- Domri's Ambush
- Force of Vigor
- Krosan Grip
- Hull Breach
- Broken Bond
- Reclamation Sage
This may seem counterintuitive, seen as you are planning on being the big creature deck that wants the board presence. But sometimes the opponents boards just need answering (Not to mention that you might end up getting a lot of elemental death triggers from Omnath). As such having 2 or 3 creature wraths might be worth trying. And having 2 or 3 artifact and enchantment wraths will be good to have access to aswell. Something you already have so I assume you already know.
Creature wraths to consider in green red include
- Blasphemous Act
- Chandra's Ignition
- Chain Reaction
- Savage Twister - This one is representative of X cost ones that are interesting to try as it gives you the oppertunity of clearing out small creatures while keeping yours alive if you would prefer. Another one that can also be used to finish of players is Rolling Earthquake
You already have the cards for mass removing artifacts and enchantments so I won't bother listing any more.
One of the most common recommendations I have to make to people about their deck is to up the amount of card draw or selection in their decks. There is no point in having sweet cards and synergies in here if we never get to see them! Normally I recommend having 10 ways of drawing cards in your deck, with some of them being repeating and some being one shot. At my count you currently have 7 (Or 8 if you count Praetor's Counsel which can do effectively a similar job), so you are nearly there but I would recommend adding a couple mr just to smooth out the deck running.
- Harmonize is the most obvious recommendation withit being notorious for its colour pie break with not haveing a restriction based on creatures or similar.
- Horn of Greed is universal, but we should be getting more value from it.
- Greater Good is amazing if you keep having big creatures to sacrifice. Thankfully due to our commander triggers, we do!
- Chandra, Flamecaller can cover multiple bases of what we need, it can be counted as both a wrath AND a card draw engine :) IT also even makes elementals (of note, they get exiled at end step instead of dieing so you won't normally get Omnath triggers. Sacrificing them to Greater Good though....... )
- Rishkar's Expertise can be great card draw as you don't need to take a full turn off to refuel, you still get to cast something that costs less, which could be that removal spell or something you needed!
These overview sections are recommendations for generic cards that could go in. From here on, we will be looking at more specific card options, and possible cuts from the existing deck
Now, again as the previous commentor mentioned, there are multiple ways you can take an Omnath deck. My take on them being
- RG Big thing Ramp. No specific synergies in mind except for incidental ones like, I need land to cast my big spells, and this card cards about land. Not a bad deck by any means, just less commander or theme focused.
- Elemental Tribal Ramp. This seems to be closer to what you are currently going for. Similar to the RG ramp deck, just with tribal synergies from elementals
- Landfall / Lands Matter. Here we are focusing on many landfall triggers, and keep cycling our lands round and round to get them. This deck will likke having access to things like Crucible of Worlds and many effects like Exploration
Here, i will suggest some cards for each of them and maybe later on if you want we could look more into one or a mix of these strategies.
- Ruric Thar, the Unbowed This card is very very powerful. Expecially as the decks around you get more and more powerful and wanting to do more combo and storm bsaed strategies.
- Gruul Ragebeast A good way of keeping the board under control when you play your 'large and incharge' creatures
- Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger We have mana, they don't. Enough said really. Just beware that with this creature, sometines the adage If you can't remove the problem, remove the player can be applied to just killing you.
Other than ones recommended here, perhaps a good idea would be to use Gatherer or mtg.wtf to find elementals in your colour. Or cards which reference elementals in your colours, the example in wtf would be this
- Chandra, Acolyte of Flame can rebuy your ramp spells and can make elementals that will die to trigger Omnath.
- Chandra, Awakened Inferno A wrath that doesn't kill elementals and can provide a reasonable clock on the game with her uptick.
- Omnath, Locus of Mana Store mana for a rainy day. Or for hitting your opponents upside the head with it. Both work.
- Parallel Lives Double the tokens, double the elementals, double the damage. We like.
- Tornado Elemental clears out any things like Dragons, or Flying Slivers or similar. Also good at picking of planeswalkers as it has sudo unblockable.
- Liege of the Tangle we can go REALLY all in on making all our lands elementals and meaning that if someone wraths us we can basically kill everyone from Omnath triggers
- Budoka Gardener Ramp early game, big guys late game.
This deck idea might have elements that are closer to a combo deck than the others, but will still mostly be a midrange deck.
- Perilous Forays With your commander out this card is bonkers. But if we are making other elemental tokens too then we can truly get going somewhere
- Crucible of Worlds , Ramunap Excavator , Life from the Loam Allow you to play the lands from your graveyard after we have sacrificed them for effects. Also makes always hitting your lands drops easier if you are playing and sacrificing a fetch land
- Exploration , Azusa, Lost but Seeking , Oracle of Mul Daya all ways to play more lands per turn
- Cavalier of Flame can be card draw and synergizes with lands in graveyard. As well as being an elemental!
- Scapeshift lots of triggers all at once
- Splendid Reclamation if we are sacrificing lands then this gets them all back. Very good after a scapeshift
- Amulet of Vigor makes some of our ramp a lot more effective, while at the same time providing a good combo with Perilous Forays and Omnath, Locus of Rage Of recommendation if you run a lot of land recursion effects then other lands that sacrifice themselves might be worth it. Like Wasteland Strip Mine etc
I won't re-list the cuts recommeneded in the ramp section. I will be evaluating cuts in the assumption that the deck is wanting to be a combination of an elementals ramp deck and a lands value deck. A lot of these recomendations for cuts will have very similar reasonings, which I will elaborate on first to be able to be brief later on. These recommendations will possibly sound rather brutal, however I find that it makes it a lot easier to have too many cards that are on the cutting block rather than not enough.
- Too Slow. If the card takes too many turns to start pulling its weight then it could be replaced with something that does what we need sooner. This is common in cards which have 'at the beginning of your upkeep' effects as they will normally have to wait an entire turn cycle to start doing something. Enters the battlefield triggers or similar things that have an effect the turn you play them are often preferred.
- Too expensive. This should be self explanatory. If the card costs too much mana, especially if the same effect can be achieved for less mana then it should be exmined.
- Doesn't do enough. While the effect might be interesting and maybe something we actually want in the deck, The card just doesn't pull its weight in whatever role it is supposed to be doing
- Doesn't contribute to our game plan This might be a good card, maybe even a great card in other decks. But perhaps the effect just isn't one we need in this deck
- Cytoplast Root-Kin Too slow. Doesn't contribute to our game plan.
- Dragonmaster Outcast Too slow. Doesn't do enough
- Grazing Gladehart Doesn't do enough. While we like landfall triggers. The life gain is small enough to be negligable unless we are massrecycling all lands from our yard multiple times.
- Magmatic Force Too Slow.
- Magmaw Doens't contribute to our game plan / Doesn't Do enough. We can run other sac outlets if we want ways to sacrifice our elementals
- Scute Mob Possibly too slow. But I love me a scute mob so I'm fine with this staying in :D
- Spawnwrithe Doesn't do enough. However this one can stay in if you have found that you realistically get to connect with it at least twice to have four of them
- Tendershoot Dryad Doesn't contribute to our game plan. Though it is very good at gummin gup the board
- Tyrant of Discord Doesn't do enough. However if you change to having some ways to knock your opponents off of lands then the chances of this hitting multiple nonlands go up and its value does too. However there are enough control players where the onlything this will do is destroy a land at random
- Undergrowth Champion Deosn't do enough. It's got all the right keywords but thats about it
- Retreat to Kazandu Doesn't do enough. THe landfall idea is good, but putting 1 counter an a guy once or so a turn isn't worth the slot really
- Sword of the Animist Too Slow. We want this effect, but we aren't attacking multiple times in one turn so there are better effects to get lands from our deck. We don't neccessarily even have than many small creatures to equip this too to get it active early enough for the ramp to be that useful as ramp
- Animist's Awakening As much as i want this spell to ever be good. It's just not really at all.
- Journey of Discovery Too slow. For this to be actual search out ramp you need to entwine it which is then 6 mana. Any of the 4 mana double basics would be better here. Or just Explore type effects that cantrip too.
Turns out there is only slightly too much Nissa. (And not enough Chandra ;) ) All of the Nissas' contribute to our gameplan well except for Nissa, Voice of Zendikar . The general rule of Planeswalkers in commander is to assume that you will only get two activations if you are lucky. So with this one you will at best buff your team a little. Consider Garruk Wildspeaker instead maybe?
Other random Card Recommendations
- Boundless Realms All the rest of our lands from our deck? Yes please
- Sylvan Awakening We do this, then we overrun and nobody will be expecting it
- Genesis Wave As previously mentioned. It's the better Animist's Awakening
- The Mending of Dominaria More mass land recursion.
Well I hope some of this helped at least a little :)
3 months ago
3 months ago
Hi, first of all your deck looks solid already. Nevertheless here are some recommendations:
As you're accelerating your mana by Weirding Wood , Dawn's Reflection and so on, you could consider Zacama, Primal Calamity and Garruk Wildspeaker , the first is a nice spell to play with the help of Jodah, the second is a great ramp spell itself.
Omniscience is an "I win" card. If your playgroup is OK with it, you should include it.
I have a Jodah deck myself that is utilising some other cards from your Maybeboard. If you're interested follow this link: Jodah, 5C Monstrosities.
That's all for now. Have fun deckbuilding!
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