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johnkarpuk, 7 years ago

In: Ley Weaver, Lore Weaver, Expedition Map, Weathered Wayfarer, Bear Umbra, Path to Exile, Cyclonic RiftGC, Pir's Whim

Out: Fact or Fiction, Dawn Charm, Dictate of Kruphix, Temple Bell, Bident of Thassa, Theft of Dreams, Borrowing 100,000 Arrows, Frontier Siege

The Big Re-Work

QuietSkillzz, 7 years ago

I've re-worked a good portion of the deck trying to make it more competitive. It's focusing more on control and combo than it does board presence. I've tweaked in some better counter spells and ways to win giant counter wars, I.E. flusterstorm, put in some more mana doublers and replaced some old ramp with some better ones. Put in Fascination as a good draw card as well as another way to win, milling someone's library with infinite mana. I'm still not sure whether the deck has a sufficient amount of mana ramp, but I'll have to play test it to found out. If it doesn't I included several good and cheap land search cards in the sideboard along with other cards that can be swapped in and out for small tweaking, such as whether or not the better counters is all it'll need for control or if it'll need more spot removal as well. Look forward to play-testing it's new power level and I'll make sure to update the deck on any small tweaks or card swaps it might need in the future. Enjoy!

trading late game for earlier game

Shyachi33, 7 years ago

Removed:

Hive Mind

Emeria, the Sky Ruin

Commit / Memory

Failure / Comply

Forced Fruition

Solemn Simulacrum

Unsubstantiate

Added:

Brainstorm

Mistveil Plains

Lavinia, Azorius Renegade

Rest in Peace

Mystic Remora

Ponder

Preordain

Note: With only Blue Sun's Zenith and Pull from Tomorrow as the only single target draw spell, Hive Mind no longer had a place in the deck, specially with it's high cmc cost, and the possible risk of the other players copying my counterspells meant to protect the combo.

Emeria was cut due to how slow it was, the deck is not pillowfort nor battle cruiser, there was never a time with 7+ plains to ever use it, switched out to Mistveil to see if it's better at protecting pieces in the GY, as this deck doesn't run a lot of permanents this card may also get cut.

Lavinia and rest in peace were both added due to a meta call, lots of GY decks currently, and couple Narset, Enlightened Master and Saheeli, the Gifted decks trying to cheat out too many spells.

Other then that, a bit more early game, card advantage/selection with Brainstorm, Mystic Remora, Preordain and Ponder.

Card Changes - Refocus to LifeDrain - Major Update

YawgsAgenda510, 7 years ago

_Ins - 20_
Deserted Temple
Utter End
Worn Powerstone
Ashes to Ashes
Sign in Blood
Exsanguinate
Death Grasp
Profound Journey
Gift of Estates
Drana’s Emissary
Filth
Magus of the Coffers
Bloodgift Demon
Cliffhaven Vampire
Agent of Masks
Divinity of Pride
Disciple of Bolas
Blind Obedience
Palance Siege
Blanket of Night

_Outs: - 21_
Blighted Steppe
Crovax, Ascendant Hero
Dictate of Heliod
Haunted Dead
Secure the Wastes (DTK)
Sorin, Solemn Visitor (KTK)
Spirit Bonds (M15) *F*
Suture Priest (NPH)
Swords to Plowshares (C16)
Faith's Fetters
Geist-Honored Monk
Decree of Justice
Path to Exile (CON)
Lingering Souls
Spectral Procession (SHM)
Intangible Virtue
Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
Mirror Entity
Teysa, Orzhov Scion (GPT)
Kirtar's Wrath
Archon of Justice (M12)

Mana Crypt

strey1998, 7 years ago

Mana Crypt in for an Island

Removal Suite Upgrades

Keab42, 7 years ago

In: + Austere Command + Bojuka Bog + Cast Out + Cleansing Nova + Extinguish All Hope + Fumigate + Merciless Eviction + Myth Realised + Profane Procession + Smothering Tithe + Swords To Plowshares + Utter End + Vindicate Out: - Aura of Silence - Banishing Light - Day of Judgment - Deadly Tempest - Doom Blade - Ethereal Armor - Promise of Power - Seal of Cleansing - Seal of Doom - Skybind - Stasis Snare - Wayfarer's Bauble - 1x Swamp Could probably swap a couple of swamps for plains as we're lighter on black now. Might reconsider Promise of Power, was a tossup between that and Snuff Out.

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everwonder, 7 years ago

Removed almost all the cards that were "draw X, keep X discard the rest". Too often I ended up discarding wincons.

Deck update

Ripwater, 7 years ago

The never ending tweaking of the deck. The last few weeks I found myself too often flooded in swamps and not enough plains to cast my things. So today I finally sad down with a good friend of mine for a second opinion on my mana base. Quickly we came to the conclusion that I play a lot of double white spells and not enough white mana to support it. Also the amount of black I use is far less than I thought. Therefor the following changes have been made.

-1 Cabal Coffers

-2 Swamp

+1 Mana Confluence

+2 Plains

The Swamp to Plains swap is quite easily explained. I need more white. But why cut Cabal Coffers? Often it was more in the way then it actually did something for me. I need Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth to make it work and now with even more Swamps being cut there is no reason for me to keep playing it. Urborg is still there just for the fixing of my mana.

Mana Confluence is something I doubted long, but City of Brass does a lot of work for me, so why not Mana Confluence as well. Since life is a resource in our deck, we might as well use it for mana fixing.

For now well see how the deck performs with mana, if it is good enough, then Chromatic Lantern might be cut again as well

Deck Direction Change

YawgsAgenda510, 7 years ago

At some point in 2018 and early 2019 I changed the direction of this deck to focus more on the lifegain/bleeder aspect as a win condition and move away from the tokens aspect. After the printing of the new Teysa in Ravnica Allegiance, this approach was validated as there really are (at least) 2 separate decks here - the tokens deck should be led by Teysa Orzhov Scion or Teysa Karlov - and that's now a separate deck from what this Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts deck is trying to do - which is nullify the attack step and then win with a big coffers-powered drain spell. The changes to the deck I will post in March 2019 reflect this refocus of the deck from a tokens approach to a Coffers/LifeDrain approach. Thoughts and comments welcome and thanks for your interest.

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sean1248, 7 years ago

Changes

Fallerup, 7 years ago

Added Guardian Project for more card draw, since I opened one in a pack and it fits here, took out Tribal Unity

[[altar of bone]]

I_TappedWrong, 7 years ago

replaced Farseek with Altar of Bone. after re-building the deck i was wondering why i was 1 card too many. then i realized i didnt have the altar of bone included which was weird because it was in the deck for years...

Upgrades

ExLo05, 7 years ago

+Tainted Field, +Nether Traitor, -Plains, -Epicure of Blood

Started description update + Memorial/Nirkana Rev

Padbras, 7 years ago

Started reupdating the description to be more complete and keep up with the decks current list. Also replaced mortuary mire with Memorial to Foly (objectively more playable) and Avatar of Woe with Nirkana Revenant.

Sifting Through the Maybes

Nemesis, 7 years ago

This will be the first real update the deck has gotten. The cuts:

• Sea Scryer: I have mana rocks that are harder to remove and do more work

• Talrand, The Sky Summoner: though he's fun, he goes against the goal of the deck.

• Part the Waterveil: too expensive, too slow

• Walk the Aeons: too expensive, buyback is too harsh

• Hinder: after the commander tuck rule change, this has become less valuable. one should be enough

the additions:

• Baral, Chief of Compliance: cheapens my spells, draws me cards. amazing.

• Disallow: counters everything

• Blue Sun's Zenith: one of my favorite cards of all time and also a wincon

• Nexus of Fate *list*: expensive, but is an instant and can be repeatable if needed.

• Elite Arcanist: enables shenanigans

Now the suspect list:

Sapphire Medallion: reduces the cost of most of my deck, but doesn't fit into any combos.

Docent of Perfection: fun wizard generation, not sure if it fits the deck's combo theme.

Information Dealer: I don't know how often I'll have a board big enough to make him worth it and not just already be winning. win-more?

Ponder: amazing card. it's a sorcery though and that kind of sucks.

Swiftfoot Boots/Lightning Greaves: both are great at protecting azami, though the haste factor isn't very important with her. Most of the time she lands, I win on the spot.

Update to ver. 4.5

Scarlet_Belvedere, 7 years ago

Name change! For the brief notes I wrote, please click the appropriate link under the "Previous Versions" tab.

V2, A few choice upgrades

SSJ2KidGohan, 7 years ago

Added some cards from high on the Yas list: Jace's Sanctum, Grafted Exoskeleton, Mystical TutorGC, Ophidian Eye, Primal Amulet, Counterspell, Quasiduplicate, Tempt with Reflections, Dismiss, Confirm Suspicions, Zndrsplt's Judgment and Desolate Lighthouse.

Took out: Arcane Melee, Invert / Invent, Ionize, Precognition Field, Supreme Will, Frantic Search, Opaline Unicorn, Pull from Tomorrow, Silver Myr and a few lands.

A Trio

SSJ2KidGohan, 7 years ago

Added Bedevil, Lightning Greaves and Guildmages' Forum for some jank and a Mountain

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Raptorlisk, 7 years ago

Celestial Dawn > Head Games

Most of the time I would much much rather have Chromatic Lantern than Celestial Dawn. May readd later.

Thopter Assembly > Mirrorworks

As Foretold > Gonti, Lord of Luxury

The power of trading with friends

GarrettTheGreat, 7 years ago

I upgraded the deck with a couple of goyf, and added in the cheapest fetchland that still works reasonably well. I've noticed the deck can definitely run out of steam quickly if I can't stick a tireless tracker. Other than that I have been loving this deck.

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Tracereraser, 7 years ago

Made updates to mana base and creatures. Putting in more value targets. Latest quandary is where to sink mana once having gone infinite,Torment of hailfire and blue suns zenith bug what else that has that all around utility?

Better Removal

cosmcbun, 7 years ago

Out: Deglamer Vendetta Necrologia

In: Assassin's Trophy Slaughter Pact Devoted Druid