Song-Mad Treachery

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Brawl Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Pre-release Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Standard Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Song-Mad Treachery

Sorcery

Gain control of target creature until end of turn. Untap that creature. It gains haste until end of turn.

Optimator on Anarchy Burger

5 months ago

Urabrask  Flip - bit more mana and damage, eventually can recast all those great spells from the graveyard. Blocks

Blast Zone - a bit of removal in the land base

Geier Reach Sanitarium - maybe loot away extra lands?

Mikokoro, Center of the Sea - not ideal, but mono-Red

Valakut Awakening  Flip - could take a land slot

Shatterskull Smashing  Flip - take a land slot and add more burn

Song-Mad Treachery  Flip - could take a land slot, could steal a big creature and get across the finish line. Expensive, but synergizes with all your instant- and sorcery-stuff

Imodane, the Pyrohammer - huge force multiplier! A win-con. Probably a must-include

Ojer Axonil, Deepest Might  Flip - another force-multiplier. Might be redundant though

multimedia on Tariel wrecker of holes

1 year ago

Hey, you haven't really made a complete deck yet to begin optimizing? Since there's only 14 lands here and you have to know that's not enough lands for a Commander deck?

There's some good ideas here, such as stealing opponent's creatures, attacking with them and then sacing them, but you want more sac outlets for this strategy. Making opponents discard cards is good, but giving an opponent the choice of what card to discard can be problematic for Tariel since opponent is not going to discard a creature. There's some reanimation and lots of recursion here which is good in these colors, but there's few enablers to get your creatures into your graveyard.

Some causal budget deck building advice to get started.

To start add 36 lands, they can be all basic lands to begin, can change some to dual lands later. Have 36 lands so you fill all the spots that are needed for lands and to clearly see how many cards have to be cut for lands. The double faced cards represented as lands here are all terrible cards for the mana cost. Cut them all and replace them with basic lands?

To add more lands next cut all the Pacifism removal? This type of creature removal doesn't interact with Tariel, Reckoner of Souls because it doesn't kill opponent's creature putting it into opponent's graveyard. If you want to utilize Tariel's ability then your opponent's creatures have to be put into graveyards, not exiled or stuck on the battlefield unable to attack or block.

The next cards to cut to add more lands are the high mana cost creatures who don't do enough for Tariel, Reckoner of Souls. Tariel is the high mana cost spell you want to cast more than the rest, the other spells played should have some interaction with him or interact with opponent's creature in some way such as In Garruk's Wake. Keep Wake, cut the rest?

Cards to cut last are some that just aren't doing enough for the mana cost and don't have any interaction with Tariel, Reckoner of Souls or the other strategies being played.

All these cuts make enough spots for 36 lands. When you have enough lands then you can begin to optimize the rest of your deck. Good luck.

flytyer97 on Price of Loyalty

1 year ago

Hi Slashdance! Thank you! Yeah I wanted to try it out hoping I'd have ample opportunity to cast my splashy spells before removing much ramp or mana sources.

In fact, I have a handful of modal spell/land cards in the deck to make up the difference for what is a total of 36 lands, such as Agadeem's Awakening  Flip and Song-Mad Treachery  Flip.

Hope you can try it out one of these days, happy building!

BruhYouFarted on Can I discard Song-Mad Treachery …

1 year ago

Lets say I cast Magmatic Insight. To pay for its cost, can I discard Song-Mad Treachery  Flip since it's kind of a land?

shwanerz88 on Yidris, Maelstrom Thief

2 years ago

Yldris always seemed like such a fun commander to me, probably because Maelstrom Wanderer was one of my first commanders. Biggest thing I see write of the back is your man base. Your deck is really blue with barely any black. might I suggest cutting back on a swamp or 2. Along with the mana base I highly suggest adding some MDFC's as most of the are fantastic. I would avoid Agadeem and Shatterskull because X spells (you might wanna cut Villainous Wealthbecause of that too), but Turntimber Symbiosis  Flip, and Sea Gate Restoration  Flip are both big spells to play after connecting with Yldris. Bala Ged Recovery  Flip, Glasspool Mimic  Flip, and even Song-Mad Treachery  Flip kinda goes with your theft theme. With the MDFC's I've been able to cut my decks down to 34-35 lands with barely any noticeable performance issues. I have even gone down to 32-33 in lower curve decks. Also I would cut decimate. It is too often a dead card when there isn't one of everything on the field and worse off might have to target your own things in dire situations just to remove key piece from someone else's board. I hope My advice helped you out! Have fun and may the Gods of Chaos be ever in your favor.

joschang01 on Updated Modern Belcher

2 years ago

It’s pretty confusing, but it is a “Doomsday” combo that can be set up in Turn 3 and start/kill Turn 4.

Turn 3: Cast Recross the Paths, as the card resolves you reveal your entire library to show there are no lands. Since the card says “…put the rest of the cards on the bottom of your library in any order…”, you get to order the deck to:

After stacking your deck, you clash with your opponents and reveal Turntimber Symbiosis  Flip, put it on the bottom of your library, and put Recross the Paths back into your hand.

Turn 4:

In your draw step, draw and reveal Reforge the Soul to trigger miracle and cast it. Draw:

Now we should have one untapped land, follow the steps below:

  1. Play Shatterskull, the Hammer Pass  Flip untapped
  2. Cast Pact of the Titan
  3. Cast Infernal Plunge, sacrificing the 4/4 Giant; 3 Red floating, 1 lands Untapped
  4. Cast Pyromancer Ascension; 2 Red Floating
  5. Cast Manamorphose, add 1 Red and 1 Green, draw the third Manamorphose; 1 Red 1 Green floating
  6. Cast second Manamorphose, trigger Pyromancer Ascension, put 1 counter on it, add 1 Red 1 Green, draw the fourth Manamorphose; 1 Red 1 Green floating
  7. Cast third Manamorphose, trigger Pyromancer Ascension, put the second counter on it, add 1 Red 1 Green, draw Bala Ged Recovery  Flip; 1 Red 1 Green floating

  8. Cast fourth Manamorphose, trigger Pyromancer Ascension, resolve Pyromancer Ascension and put a copy on the stack

    2 Red 2 Green floating

  9. Cast Desperate Ritual, trigger Pyromancer Ascension, resolve Pyromancer Ascension and put a copy on the stack, resolve both 6 Red 2 Green floating

  10. Cast Bala Ged Recovery  Flip targeting Manamorphose, trigger Pyromancer Ascension, resolve Pyromancer Ascension and put a copy on the stack. The copy will target Desperate Ritual, resolve both spells 4 Red 1 Green Floating

  11. Cast Manamorphose, trigger Pyromancer Ascension, resolve Pyromancer Ascension and put a copy on the stack

    • The first will add 2 Red and draw the second Bala Ged Recovery  Flip
    • The second will add 2 Green and draw anything 4 Red 3 Green Floating

  12. Cast Desperate Ritual with Splice Onto Arcane with the second Desperate Ritual, trigger Pyromancer Ascension, resolve Pyromancer Ascension and add a copy. Resolve both add 12 Red 12 Red 3 Green Floating

  13. Cast second Bala Ged Recovery  Flip targeting Desperate Ritual, trigger Pyromancer Ascension, resolve Pyromancer Ascension, make a copy targeting a Bala Ged Recovery  Flip, resolve both 9 Red 2 Green Floating

  14. Repeat step 12 to add 12 Red mana 19 Red 2 Green Floating

  15. Cast Bala Ged Recovery  Flip to return Manamorphose and Bala Ged Recovery  Flip

    17 Red 1 Green Floating

  16. Cast Manamorphose, add 4 green draw 2;

    15 Red 5 Green Floating

  17. Repeat step 13, return Desperate Ritual and a Bala Ged Recovery  Flip

At this point, steps 12-17 will loop and lead to an arbitrarily large amount of mana and card draw. With that you can do a bunch of wonky things including:

For the record, I don’t play belcher, but I learned the combo after getting belched so many times haha

Hercules23 on Sneaky Purphy B. [Primer I guess]

2 years ago

Great deck. Definitely plan on trying it out. I've got a Feldon deck that I built using the Daretti Precon as a base. While Feldon is an awesome commander, I also agree that you really need haste to be effective with him. Purphoros serving as sneak attack in the command zone is really nice. I actually like land destruction and resource denial in MonoR when the commander supports it, as gives you a clear resource advantage and helps you close out games quickly. I feel like its important to utilize MLD in the right context though. The bad experiences playgroups have with the MLD player is when they wipe all the lands with no wincon or way to break parity, forcing the game to essentially restart and take double the time. I believe that reds lack of ramp can be counteracted by its ability to target opponents manabases, and its silly for others to complain about this when green players and landfall strategies are so common at producing absurd amounts of lands very quickly. Purphoros really shines with MLD because he can survive with indestructible and you only need 3 mana online to start beating face. Thats probably solid enough parity to go on the front foot and win. Some of the MDFC Lands ( Song-Mad Treachery  Flip, Spikefield Hazard  Flip, and Kazuul's Fury  Flip seem quite mediocre. I'm not sure if the ability on the frontside is even worth the cost of them coming in tapped and slowing things down. Cards I want to try so far are listed below, I wonder what your thoughts on them are?

Keldon Firebombers - You already mentioned this one, 3 lands makes it seem like its made for Purphoros. Even if the opponents get a new hand with lands from a wheel, the likelihood of them being about to ramp out multiple lands in the mid-late game is lower.

Ryusei, the Falling Star - Free boardwipe when we let it die to Purph's effect

Spinerock Knoll - Seems extremely easy to play the exiled card for free with the amount of damage we can do

Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion - Helps cycle through the deck and get more mana

Port Razer / Combat Celebrant - Insane amount of combat steps. Additional combat steps always do more damage over double strike or big beaters.

Everflowing Chalice - artifact recycling and scales well with more mana if needed

Smoke / Mudslide - We dont care about untapping with Purphs effect, plus it helps us survive with an empty board longer

Jokulhaups / Bust / Obliterate / Epicenter - Different mana costs but same idea, deny resources.

Treasonous Ogre / Alena, Kessig Trapper - Big Mana

Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - No real downside

king-saproling on No Land for Old Men

3 years ago

Maybe try the flip cards from Zendikar Rising? You can play them as lands, and they won't mess up Charbelcher: Akoum Warrior  Flip, Beyeen Veil  Flip, Glasspool Mimic  Flip, Jwari Disruption  Flip, Kazuul's Fury  Flip, Sea Gate Restoration  Flip, Shatterskull Smashing  Flip, Silundi Vision  Flip, Song-Mad Treachery  Flip, Spikefield Hazard  Flip, Umara Wizard  Flip, Valakut Awakening  Flip

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