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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Target opponent reveals their hand. You choose a card from it with converted mana cost 3 or greater. That player discard that card.
2 months ago
Also, Geier Reach Sanitarium seems ugly in this deck.
Finally, Acererak the Archlich is a bit of a strange inclusion, but given that it can venture into Tomb of Annihilation and try to force discards and sacrifices, it seems really good.
2 months ago
Hey, you haven't really made a complete deck yet to begin optimizing? Since there's only 14 lands here and you have to know that's not enough lands for a Commander deck?
There's some good ideas here, such as stealing opponent's creatures, attacking with them and then sacing them, but you want more sac outlets for this strategy. Making opponents discard cards is good, but giving an opponent the choice of what card to discard can be problematic for Tariel since opponent is not going to discard a creature. There's some reanimation and lots of recursion here which is good in these colors, but there's few enablers to get your creatures into your graveyard.
Some causal budget deck building advice to get started.
- 36 lands (Command Tower)
- 10 ramp sources (Arcane Signet)
- 10 draw sources (Magus of the Wheel)
- 10 removal for opponent's creatures (Plaguecrafter)
To start add 36 lands, they can be all basic lands to begin, can change some to dual lands later. Have 36 lands so you fill all the spots that are needed for lands and to clearly see how many cards have to be cut for lands. The double faced cards represented as lands here are all terrible cards for the mana cost. Cut them all and replace them with basic lands?
To add more lands next cut all the Pacifism removal? This type of creature removal doesn't interact with Tariel, Reckoner of Souls because it doesn't kill opponent's creature putting it into opponent's graveyard. If you want to utilize Tariel's ability then your opponent's creatures have to be put into graveyards, not exiled or stuck on the battlefield unable to attack or block.
- Pious Interdiction
- Choking Restraints
- Luminous Bonds
- Nahiri's Binding
- Minimus Containment
The next cards to cut to add more lands are the high mana cost creatures who don't do enough for Tariel, Reckoner of Souls. Tariel is the high mana cost spell you want to cast more than the rest, the other spells played should have some interaction with him or interact with opponent's creature in some way such as In Garruk's Wake. Keep Wake, cut the rest?
- Gloom Sower
- Returned Pastcaller
- Baleful Beholder
- Scion of the Swarm
- Epicure of Blood
- Boneclad Necromancer
Cards to cut last are some that just aren't doing enough for the mana cost and don't have any interaction with Tariel, Reckoner of Souls or the other strategies being played.
- Skymarch Bloodletter
- Death Cultist
- Contaminated Ground
- Hold at Bay
- Spreading Rot
- Seismic Shift
- Rubble Reading
- Tectonic Rift
- Settle Beyond Reality
- Goblin Instigator
- Marauding Blight-Priest
- Skemfar Shadowsage
All these cuts make enough spots for 36 lands. When you have enough lands then you can begin to optimize the rest of your deck. Good luck.
7 months ago
As someone who loves infect, I have to say your list has waaaaaaaaaay too many creatures and lands. Even slower versions like mine, a Monoblack one, run around 12 creatures + 4 Inkmoth Nexus. Infect is a strong mechanic. So, in order to make it balanced, WOTC made the creatures really bad, which is why it's usually a bad idea to run this many of them. And 28 lands is asking to get mana flooded
Nevertheless, I'll give my suggestions without trying to chance to core ideia of the deck. If playing this was is how you have fun and it works for you and your friends, then I just want to help you make it better without modifying its core.
Cut Viridian Betrayers, Contagious Nim and Cystbearer and max out on Rot Wolf. All of these cards aren't really strong but at least the wolf lets you draw cards when it kills something, meaning its usefulness grows exponentially with Hand of the Praetors on the field.
Tangle Angler and Blightwidow are really bad. If you want a real threat for four mana, Phyrexian Vatmother is the best choice. While not a powerhouse, being a 4/5 with Infect is gonna do the same thing as the Angler's ability. Trust me, no one will let 4 infect damage go through if possible.
Don't even consider Vector Asp.
If you're really worried about Melira, Sylvok Outcast and Solemnity, there are soooo many options in that easily deal with it. Below I'll post a list to a list of cards that are both under one dollar and can deal with the cards you worry about. Just copy and paste it tp have a look. Some notable ones are Natural State, Bloodchief's Thirst, Broken Bond, Eliminate, Feed the Swarm, Wilt and many more.
There is also a huge number of lands that are dirty cheap and can be very useful in your deck. From the top of my head I cam remember Ifnir Deadlands and Hashep Oasis. You could also run some of the MDFC ones such as Vastwood Fortification Flip, Khalni Ambush Flip and Pelakka Predation Flip. Llanowar Wastes, Skemfar Elderhall and Temple of Malady couls be very useful too.
Lastly, Contagion Clasp is not good. Just run any other creature.
If you want me to give you suggestions more aligned with how Infect is normally played, tell me and I'll be happy to help. I just wanted to respect your deckbuilding style as much as possible with these.
11 months ago
In a Modern setting Nighthawk Scavenger is almost always going to be a strictly better Vampire Nighthawk, since it's really common for at least two card types to be in your opponents graveyard. Another upgrade is Phyrexian Arena over Dark Tutelage. To make the most of Vampire Nocturnus you probably want a couple of copies of Agadeem's Awakening Flip (move Elixir of Immortality to the sideboard) and cut Distress for a couple of copies of Pelakka Predation Flip (which will mostly be a land, but can grab a board wipe) lastly run one Hive of the Eye Tyrant which is basically a free include.
1 year ago
Here's my crack at some deck edits. After playing some games with version 1.0, beefing up Killian voltron style proved inconsistent and some of the card advantage options were awkward.
Based on that I chose to go a tad wider with Clarion Spirit and Leonin Lightscribe to increase the threat density and added some targeted discard with Humiliate and Pelakka Predation Flip over traditional card advantage.
Overall I have found this leaner version to run a bit more consistently. I recognize that should the game go long enough the lack of card advantage would be a downside.
1 year ago
With black in the deck you get Never/Return as well as Grim Tutor, maybe fetching another Collected Conjuring. Inscription of Ruin in dreamland can be cast with kicker off of conjuring, but it still has two relevant options, killing tarmogoyfs and shadow cards. Pain's Reward is very risky, can draw tons of cards, but I would play it in a deck that can consistently have your opponent be at less life or have pressure on the board. Pelakka Predation Flip is kind of a freeroll, so that might be an option. Waking Nightmare effects might be too slow. Though the most value might seem to be accrued though getting 3 cmc cards, this is not as ruling as it is with coco. Thoughtseize is excellent hand destruction and has proven itself. Collective Brutality is just another way to sweeten the two for one. Night's Whisper and its ilk can be good, but better than the blue card draw? It would take testing to tell.
2 years ago
Hey Happymaster19! Share your Love to Zombies. Like your Deck pretty much. What do you think of the double faced lands from Zendikars Rising? (Pelakka Predation Flip, Agadeem's Awakening Flip or Malakir Rebirth Flip) Could they add some benefits to the deck? I'm thinking of playing 2 or 3 copies of Malakir Rebirth Flip, but I'm not quite sure yet. Cheers, Olli