Riptide Entrancer
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Riptide Entrancer

Creature — Human Wizard

Whenever Riptide Entrancer deals combat damage to a player, you may sacrifice it. If you do, gain control of target creature that player controls. (This effect doesn't end at end of turn.)

Morph (Blue)(Blue) (You may play this face down as a 2/2 creature for (3). Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)

CavemanlyMan on [Upgraded][C11] Mirror Mastery - Animar's Morpher

4 years ago

Every Animar deck needs an Ancestral Statue . It's cloudstone Curio, but better. Also, I would suggest Cunning Evasion over Temur Sabertooth . Also, I dislike Riptide Entrancer as more often than not if it is something worth stealing it is going to be bigger than a 2/2 morph and you won't actually get any combat damage through.

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on Commander 2019...

4 years ago

Staizer - Get ready for a long response:

I did look at the same list as you did, but as a longtime morph player, this deck is a disappointment. I've already made my thoughts on Kadena clear so I'll make that response short.

Kadena:

A bland Sultai value engine that brings nothing new to the table. She isn't a bad card by any means, but she doesn't address any of morph's biggest weaknesses. I'd still play Animar, Soul of Elements , Kruphix, God of Horizons , Muldrotha, the Gravetide , and maybe even the new Bant brawl commander over her.

The choice of morph/manifest related reprints

Some fine inclusions. Ixidron , Stratus Dancer , and Vesuvan Shapeshifter are nice, but they chose to exclude most of the best morph/manifest related cards: Dream Chisel , Ixidor, Reality Sculptor , Whisperwood Elemental , Riptide Entrancer , Voidmage Prodigy , Voidmage Apprentice , Aphetto Runecaster , Primordial Mist , Obscuring AEther , Unblinking Bleb , Weaver of Lies , Brine Elemental (though this one actually makes sense), and even Backslide . I would never expect all or even most of those to make it into the deck, but a couple would've been nice and would've made more sense than something like Deathmist Raptor or Silumgar Assassin .

Value reprints

Not much to complain about here as there is some solid value in the deck, though I think Cloudstone Curio or Equilibrium would've been good value reprints that interact well with the theme mechanic.

New cards

Only Scroll of Fate and Kadena's Silencer are worth mentioning here. I know I sound like a broken record, but none of the new cards help address the issues facing morph: speed and the fact that morph is a value based mechanic that requires a massive mana investment. Morph will always be a casual mechanic, but it needs something that reduces the cost of triggering morph, or something that allows for multiple activations (my hope was for repeatable Backslide effects). Neither of those issues were addressed by the new cards in this deck. I would've been happy with just 1 card that helps in that way...1 card.

Is this a good pre-con for new players? Yes. Does it have value? Yes, though most of the value cards are only that way due to scarcity. I think many will end up tanking in price. Will it win games against the other pre-cons? Probably. Will it win games against even 60% decks? Unlikely.

So is it a good pre-con and I am being extra critical? Maybe, but this mechanic has had a special place in my heart for a very long time (Morph was first introduced when I was a little kid and just starting out playing Magic). I was excited to see morph finally get some needed reprints and support. Instead the new cards aren't that inspiring and the reprints honestly look like they just pulled up Gatherer, typed in "morph", and then picked some of the first things that they found.

multimedia on Commander 2019...

4 years ago

Dig deeper into the Sultai Morph precon decklist and you can find lot of reason to buy it. The manabase alone may be one of the better manabases for a three color Commander precon. Eleven nonbasic lands ETB untapped which is by precon standards an improvement from past precon manabases.

Why are the Signet lands ( Darkwater Catacombs ) being printed as rare lands? These lands don't actually make mana without having another land/one mana first, this is not an ability that's rare. These should be uncommon since they're much worse than Filter lands ( Sunken Ruins ) which are also rare lands.

Land value in the precon (in order):

I'm happy to see Ash Barrens reprinted because it's land that should be in every Commander precon. There's 17 two drops which is an improvement for precon deck building. Kadena, Slinking Sorcerer , Scroll of Fate and Kadena's Silencer look like good cards for morph. Silencer will however not hold at $10 of value it will decrease a lot. I don't know enough about the 13 other new cards to evaluate their value in the precon.

Valuable reprints in the Sultai deck (in order):

Some notable exclusions for a morph theme:

multimedia on Morph cards to pick up …

4 years ago

Rare/mythic morph cards or cards that care about face down cards especially if from older sets. They are all good prices right now and most will spike if a morph Commander is revealed.

Madcookie on Commander 2019 early hopes and …

4 years ago

I gave the 4 mechanics a good look in Scryfall and I don't know how to feel, really. On the one hand the mechanics seem cool and especially if they open up more options in other colors for them it would be amazing (like Naya populate). 2 main worry points is that madness does not strike me as a multiplayer mechanic and mostly the reprint value worried me tremendously. Populate's highest value card as is Trostani, Selesnya's Voice sitting at around 2$, morph's top card is Riptide Entrancer at 4$, madness with Big Game Hunter at 1.5$ and flashback with Past in Flames at 5$(Im not counting Echo of Eons as it is a new card and won't be reprinted here). On top of that certain cards like Dream Chisel and Catalyst Stone have already spiked significantly and if they are not reprinted we will see another Enchanted Evening type spike. All in all this puts the reprint value either at 2018 levels or in cards that don't synergise directly with the mechanic.

I know the reprints and value aren't everything but if the bet it all on the new cards hype and snub reprinting needed cards, I'll pass.

Lokotor on Marchesa, On the way to the top!

5 years ago

I'd cut Herald of Secret Streams for reason's I'm sure you're aware and Mob Rule because it's high CMC and i'm not sure it's going to always play well forcing you to choose one mode.

Replace them with Riptide Entrancer and Thalakos Deceiver both are Wizards and both fit the steal creatures plan that you have as a sub theme.

Daedalus19876 on Thousand Cuts: Tetsuko EDH [PRIMER]

5 years ago

Color_pie14: Fair enough, but Control Magic is a more direct comparison to Riptide Entrancer (the card under consideration when I mentioned Control Magic).

Daedalus19876 on Thousand Cuts: Tetsuko EDH [PRIMER]

5 years ago

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor: I really should be running Chasm Skulker, no disagreement. Just don't know what I can cut to add it...I used to run more infect, but eventually I decided I wanted to make that a less common win-con, so just Inkmoth Nexus remains. I also used to run Disallow, but I never wanted to hold up the 3 mana for a slightly-better Cancel (Stifle is different, because it can be cast to neuter a T1 fetchland). Gigantoplasm is another card I'd love to run, but I don't find I have enough I want to copy in my current meta...Again, thank you for your comments!!

gdm1989: Heh, while I love Hope of Ghirapur in general (especially with Gift of Immortality), I don't know how good it is here since I can't reuse it in these colors...I suppose I could run it with Academy Ruins...

Crivaro: I ended up cutting Cloak and Dagger because it makes my commander blockable :( I really wish Tetsuko was a 2/1 so I could boost her power...And I LOVE the idea of Bubble Matrix here, kicking myself for not thinking of that!! Definitely needs to find a slot - thoughts on cuts?

Freyalise50: Honestly? I am running a few evasive creatures that don't need my commander, but I still balk at equipment that make my creatures specifically blockable. Moreover, my curve is low enough that I rarely have trouble holding up mana...

Doctorlobo89: Heh. Cute. I do like that a lot - but it's too many moving parts in THIS deck. In a Chisei, Heart of Oceans deck, though, that could be totally viable!!

LuxCannonator: Riptide Entrancer is a little 1-shot for my tastes. I mean, it does act as a 3-mana steal effect, but Control Magic is my go-to for that effect, and Control Magic doesn't have summoning sickness or die to kill spells...

Color_pie14: Good thinking!

jakethewhale007: This deck performs great in 3-player, and well in 4-player if you draw a decent hand. Your counterspells do less, but as long as you maintain enough draw effects you should be able to survive. I win 95% of 2-player games, 80% of 3-player games, and probably 60% of 4-player games. Those are all definitely above average, but the deck gets less overpowering with more players, alas. And Fatespinner was in where for a while, but it's more of a sideboard here (since most opponents just skipped combat, as you guessed). I'd like to put it back in someday. I think that if you want another disruption-ish piece to replace Back to Basics, I'd take a page from Crivaro's book and test Bubble Matrix - that sounds amazing here. (And thanks for the congratulations!!)

JaceSeeker: The +1/+1 is a downside for this deck, but I've been tempted to run its ancestor Curiosity...

Thank you all, once again, for your insight and comments! This deck wouldn't be as strong without your input.

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