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At the beginning of your end step, you may manifest the top card of your library. (Put it onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature. Turn it face up at any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
Exile a face-down permanent you control face up: You may play that card this turn. (You still pay its costs. Timing rules still apply.)
Primordial Mist Discussion
1 week ago
Staizer - Get ready for a long response:
I did look at the same list as you did, but as a longtime morph player, this deck is a disappointment. I've already made my thoughts on Kadena clear so I'll make that response short.
A bland Sultai value engine that brings nothing new to the table. She isn't a bad card by any means, but she doesn't address any of morph's biggest weaknesses. I'd still play Animar, Soul of Elements , Kruphix, God of Horizons , Muldrotha, the Gravetide , and maybe even the new Bant brawl commander over her.
The choice of morph/manifest related reprints
Some fine inclusions. Ixidron , Stratus Dancer , and Vesuvan Shapeshifter are nice, but they chose to exclude most of the best morph/manifest related cards: Dream Chisel , Ixidor, Reality Sculptor , Whisperwood Elemental , Riptide Entrancer , Voidmage Prodigy , Voidmage Apprentice , Aphetto Runecaster , Primordial Mist , Obscuring AEther , Unblinking Bleb , Weaver of Lies , Brine Elemental (though this one actually makes sense), and even Backslide . I would never expect all or even most of those to make it into the deck, but a couple would've been nice and would've made more sense than something like Deathmist Raptor or Silumgar Assassin .
Only Scroll of Fate and Kadena's Silencer are worth mentioning here. I know I sound like a broken record, but none of the new cards help address the issues facing morph: speed and the fact that morph is a value based mechanic that requires a massive mana investment. Morph will always be a casual mechanic, but it needs something that reduces the cost of triggering morph, or something that allows for multiple activations (my hope was for repeatable Backslide effects). Neither of those issues were addressed by the new cards in this deck. I would've been happy with just 1 card that helps in that way...1 card.
Is this a good pre-con for new players? Yes. Does it have value? Yes, though most of the value cards are only that way due to scarcity. I think many will end up tanking in price. Will it win games against the other pre-cons? Probably. Will it win games against even 60% decks? Unlikely.
So is it a good pre-con and I am being extra critical? Maybe, but this mechanic has had a special place in my heart for a very long time (Morph was first introduced when I was a little kid and just starting out playing Magic). I was excited to see morph finally get some needed reprints and support. Instead the new cards aren't that inspiring and the reprints honestly look like they just pulled up Gatherer, typed in "morph", and then picked some of the first things that they found.
1 week ago
Dig deeper into the Sultai Morph precon decklist and you can find lot of reason to buy it. The manabase alone may be one of the better manabases for a three color Commander precon. Eleven nonbasic lands ETB untapped which is by precon standards an improvement from past precon manabases.
Why are the Signet lands ( Darkwater Catacombs ) being printed as rare lands? These lands don't actually make mana without having another land/one mana first, this is not an ability that's rare. These should be uncommon since they're much worse than Filter lands ( Sunken Ruins ) which are also rare lands.
Land value in the precon (in order):
- Ash Barrens
- Command Tower
- Sunken Hollow
- Bojuka Bog
- Reliquary Tower
- Thespian's Stage
- Exotic Orchard
- Llanowar Wastes
- Yavimaya Coast
I'm happy to see Ash Barrens reprinted because it's land that should be in every Commander precon. There's 17 two drops which is an improvement for precon deck building. Kadena, Slinking Sorcerer , Scroll of Fate and Kadena's Silencer look like good cards for morph. Silencer will however not hold at $10 of value it will decrease a lot. I don't know enough about the 13 other new cards to evaluate their value in the precon.
Valuable reprints in the Sultai deck (in order):
- Seedborn Muse
- Tempt with Discovery
- Thran Dynamo
- Sol Ring
- Strionic Resonator
- Hooded Hydra
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Reality Shift
- Grim Haruspex
Some notable exclusions for a morph theme:
- Dream Chisel : going to spike.
- Ixidor, Reality Sculptor : going to spike especially because of Scroll of Fate .
- Voidmage Prodigy : going to spike.
- Riptide Entrancer : going to spike.
- Birchlore Rangers : never been reprinted.
- Aphetto Alchemist : never been reprinted.
- Whisperwood Elemental
- Primordial Mist
- Zoetic Cavern
- Sultai Emissary
2 weeks ago
6 months ago
[email protected]_only Wow thanks, someone did their homework!!!! I’m also pretty fond of this deck I crammed all the morphs I opened in packs when I started playing in the onslaught block.
Jeskai Infiltrator : He will most likely never get to deal combat damage in my playgroup.
6 months ago
love the deck - Vesuvan Shapeshifter is one of my all-time faves!
odd cards you might consider:
Ixidor, Reality Sculptor - alternate morph cost, morph roiding
Jeskai Infiltrator - free morphing draw when it hits
Thousand Winds - mass bounce
7 months ago
if you want top-deck manipulation, then this deck wants Mastery of the Unseen and Primordial Mist . They're a powerhouse together. A good mana dump later on, and a free blocker every turn that you can exile to use later on.
7 months ago
Your deck looks really fun, but I have some questions: Is Toothy, Imaginary Friend not too slow? Or you just need it to draw like 2 or 3 cards? Hidden Stockpile is also slow to me. You can have only one servo each turn, even if you have ability to scry for sacrifice them. I think that Thassa, God of the Sea could be better... And why you removing Aminatou's Augury, Entreat the Angels and Primordial Mist?
7 months ago
Haha, yes I overlooked the Scrivener card. I had a moment of dyslexia and I think my mind put the word sorcery in its text >.>
I would then change it in my deck as well. I think Cataclysmic Gearhulk is a solid inclusion. It is a somewhat pseudo-boardwipe that brings hate to the table, but not TOO much hate in that everyone gets to keep a few things of their choice in play. As someone mentioned though Sigarda, Host of Herons doesn't care if you play Cataclysmic Gearhulk. But that is very situational mainly on that deck alone.
Ancestral Knowledge to me is a great 2 drop. Being able to essentially Dig Through Time with 3 additional cards mind you, is incredibly powerful to set up a game plan. Not to mention you can choose "0" as a number so you're not exiling anything away. Just blink it as need be, and to knock off the age counters.
Primordial Mist is an interesting approach. As said this can easily cheat you into free fatties, and a 2/2 usually flies under the radar, no one is usually too concerned about 2/2 manifested creatures I feel like. However the only problematic thing with it is if other players start dropping bomb cards and someone decides to board wipe, it is risky in that aspect. But I feel there may be some potential in that build tbh.
Primordial Mist occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.0%